I think Chriss is still in the picture at 3

[Tr1boy]

His height, explosiveness plus underrated ball skills and good looking jump shot cant be ignored imo

People have said his feel for the game is just so so. Not a good passer.  But lets not forget that he is a PF.   

Look at tristant thompson for example. Mediocre feel for game but he is very good at what he does. Blake Griffin the same (now with a mid range)

You cant have everything.  I cant confidently say Brown, Dunn, Murray, Hield will be top players at their positions at the nba level one day.  But Chriss has the physical tools , skills plus that jumper to be a top calibre PF

That good looking reliable jump shot imo is what seperates chriss from brown.  Brown could end up like a marcus smart. Hard working , fits in with the group but his stats (scoring) is not efficient , not what to expect from a 3rd pick. If you look at his college stats, he really declined in the last 5-7 games.   Not sure what happened, but this is not a good indication (as of now) of a player able to handle a long season

Chriss on the other hand (had an inconsistent year) but really brought his A game the last 4-5 games.  Finished strong.  Teams should of had a game plan on him but still couldnt slow him down

I think if you are going for upside , Chriss has the highest out of all the candidates at 3.

[nebist]

I just wish he had rebounded the basketball.  If he rebounded in college, then I could get behind him at 3.  But I think that's a bad sign for his makeup.

[Tr1boy]

I just wish he had rebounded the basketball.  If he rebounded in college, then I could get behind him at 3.  But I think that's a bad sign for his makeup.

In the last 4-5 games he had 2 or 3 double digit rebound games

[Granath]

I just wish he had rebounded the basketball.  If he rebounded in college, then I could get behind him at 3.  But I think that's a bad sign for his makeup.

In the last 4-5 games he had 2 or 3 double digit rebound games

Two, against Stanford and Long Beach State. Wheeeeee....

Conversely, he had 5 or fewer rebounds in 21 of 34 games and reached double digits in only 6. That's really poor.

[tankcity!]

He's the riskiest pick in the 3-8 range to be honest. I don't mind gambles at all cause the point is to get a star. However, this guy reminds me of Jeff Green and scouts have questioned his motor. Think about it, that makes sense since he doesn't rebound. Durant was a stick and he rebounded in college for gods sakes. It just means Chriss is lazy and that's scary.

[Tr1boy]

I just wish he had rebounded the basketball.  If he rebounded in college, then I could get behind him at 3.  But I think that's a bad sign for his makeup.

In the last 4-5 games he had 2 or 3 double digit rebound games

Two, against Stanford and Long Beach State. Wheeeeee....

Conversely, he had 5 or fewer rebounds in 21 of 34 games and reached double digits in only 6. That's really poor.

What about Brown?

Chriss was a better offensive reboubder than defensive. He just needs to focus more on rebounding on the defensive end

[Granath]

I just wish he had rebounded the basketball.  If he rebounded in college, then I could get behind him at 3.  But I think that's a bad sign for his makeup.

In the last 4-5 games he had 2 or 3 double digit rebound games

Two, against Stanford and Long Beach State. Wheeeeee....

Conversely, he had 5 or fewer rebounds in 21 of 34 games and reached double digits in only 6. That's really poor.

What about Brown?

Chriss was a better offensive reboubder than defensive. He just needs to focus more on rebounding on the defensive end

What about Brown?

You might as well be asking about the rebounding of Dunn, Murray and Hield. Chriss is projected to be a PF/C in the NBA. Brown is projected to be a SF and a slashing scorer. Thus rebounding is far more important for someone like Marquese than Jaylen.

[Tr1boy]

I just wish he had rebounded the basketball.  If he rebounded in college, then I could get behind him at 3.  But I think that's a bad sign for his makeup.

In the last 4-5 games he had 2 or 3 double digit rebound games

Two, against Stanford and Long Beach State. Wheeeeee....

Conversely, he had 5 or fewer rebounds in 21 of 34 games and reached double digits in only 6. That's really poor.

What about Brown?

Chriss was a better offensive reboubder than defensive. He just needs to focus more on rebounding on the defensive end

What about Brown?

You might as well be asking about the rebounding of Dunn, Murray and Hield. Chriss is projected to be a PF/C in the NBA. Brown is projected to be a SF and a slashing scorer. Thus rebounding is far more important for someone like Marquese than Jaylen.

Take a look at this. So happened here??

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/andre-drummond-1.html

[Granath]

I just wish he had rebounded the basketball.  If he rebounded in college, then I could get behind him at 3.  But I think that's a bad sign for his makeup.

In the last 4-5 games he had 2 or 3 double digit rebound games

Two, against Stanford and Long Beach State. Wheeeeee....

Conversely, he had 5 or fewer rebounds in 21 of 34 games and reached double digits in only 6. That's really poor.

What about Brown?

Chriss was a better offensive reboubder than defensive. He just needs to focus more on rebounding on the defensive end

What about Brown?

You might as well be asking about the rebounding of Dunn, Murray and Hield. Chriss is projected to be a PF/C in the NBA. Brown is projected to be a SF and a slashing scorer. Thus rebounding is far more important for someone like Marquese than Jaylen.

Take a look at this. So happened here??

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/andre-drummond-1.html

What happened is that you're using lousy comparisons again to try to prove a point you can't hope to prove. You linked the stats of someone who had almost 50% more rebounds per game, had double digits in 11 games, had more than 5 in 21 out of 34 games, weighed 270 pounds versus 225...and that's your best comparison? *giggle*

Your point is what exactly? That people can improve? Oh my, what a revelation! But 99% of guys don't improve like Drummond did. Chriss is such a bad rebounder that it would take Durmmond-like improvement to become even a decent on at the next level. While not impossible, trying to count on that is like suggesting every 30th draft pick should become the next Jimmy Butler. There's a reason why it happens so rarely.

[Tr1boy]

I just wish he had rebounded the basketball.  If he rebounded in college, then I could get behind him at 3.  But I think that's a bad sign for his makeup.

In the last 4-5 games he had 2 or 3 double digit rebound games

Two, against Stanford and Long Beach State. Wheeeeee....

Conversely, he had 5 or fewer rebounds in 21 of 34 games and reached double digits in only 6. That's really poor.

What about Brown?

Chriss was a better offensive reboubder than defensive. He just needs to focus more on rebounding on the defensive end

What about Brown?

You might as well be asking about the rebounding of Dunn, Murray and Hield. Chriss is projected to be a PF/C in the NBA. Brown is projected to be a SF and a slashing scorer. Thus rebounding is far more important for someone like Marquese than Jaylen.

Take a look at this. So happened here??

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/andre-drummond-1.html

What happened is that you're using lousy comparisons again to try to prove a point you can't hope to prove. You linked the stats of someone who had almost 50% more rebounds per game, had double digits in 11 games, had more than 5 in 21 out of 34 games, weighed 270 pounds versus 225...and that's your best comparison? *giggle*

Your point is what exactly? That people can improve? Oh my, what a revelation! But 99% of guys don't improve like Drummond did. Chriss is such a bad rebounder that it would take Durmmond-like improvement to become even a decent on at the next level. While not impossible, trying to count on that is like suggesting every 30th draft pick should become the next Jimmy Butler. There's a reason why it happens so rarely.

Basically you are stating after your 1st year of college ball, you are a finished product

Which is far from the truth

If chriss stayed back another year , he could be avg 10 rpg. Or maybe not.  But you cant say he is a poor rebounder for life after one season of college ball

[Granath]

Basically you are stating after your 1st year of college ball, you are a finished product

Which is far from the truth

Basically you're saying you like to dance around in dirty underwear to the sounds of Wham! I can make that conclusion from your statements as logically as you can make your assumption from mine.

I said no such thing. I inferred no such thing. Thanks for playing, please try again. Reading is fundamental. Try it sometime.

If chriss stayed back another year , he could be avg 10 rpg. Or maybe not.  But you cant say he is a poor rebounder for life after one season of college ball

No, but I can say he is an exceptionally poor rebounder at this stage of his career. He was out rebounded by both of his backcourt guards for heaven's sake. That's incredibly poor. It would take quite a leap by him to become even an average rebounder. When you start out that bad there's no way to go but up but it's a very long hill to climb.

[crimson_stallion]

He's got questionable attitude, his defence (beyond shot blocking) is highly suspect, his basketball IQ is limited, and he absolutely positively cannot rebound the ball.

I've said it a few times, but will keep saying it until somebody can prove it wrong - Chriss looks like a dead set clone of Jeff Green.  Soft attitude and all.

[Tr1boy]

He's got questionable attitude, his defence (beyond shot blocking) is highly suspect, his basketball IQ is limited, and he absolutely positively cannot rebound the ball.

I've said it a few times, but will keep saying it until somebody can prove it wrong - Chriss looks like a dead set clone of Jeff Green.  Soft attitude and all.

Chriss had more steals than brown last season

And green couldnt rebound on either ends.  Chriss is a very good offensive rebounder

[crimson_stallion]

I just wish he had rebounded the basketball.  If he rebounded in college, then I could get behind him at 3.  But I think that's a bad sign for his makeup.

In the last 4-5 games he had 2 or 3 double digit rebound games

Two, against Stanford and Long Beach State. Wheeeeee....

Conversely, he had 5 or fewer rebounds in 21 of 34 games and reached double digits in only 6. That's really poor.

What about Brown?

Chriss was a better offensive reboubder than defensive. He just needs to focus more on rebounding on the defensive end

What about Brown?

You might as well be asking about the rebounding of Dunn, Murray and Hield. Chriss is projected to be a PF/C in the NBA. Brown is projected to be a SF and a slashing scorer. Thus rebounding is far more important for someone like Marquese than Jaylen.

Take a look at this. So happened here??

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/andre-drummond-1.html

 

What happened is Drummond averaged 10 rebounds per 40 minutes.  That's a VERY big jump from the 6 or 7 rebounds per 40 minutes that Chriss averaged.

Hell Brown averaged similar rebounding numbers to Chris and he is a 6'7" SF.  Even Kris Dunn and Buddy Hield had rebounding numbers not far off Chriss, and those guys are guards.

You can sugar coat things all you want, Chriss is a historically bad rebounder for a guy with his size, strength and athleticism.  Historically bad.

Jeff Green is 6'9" and around 230 pounds and a crazy good athlete, and he's averaged up around 5-6 rebounds per game his entire career.  He struggled to be effective offensively at the SF spot due to his lack of handle and passing ability, he struggled at the PF spot because of his lack of toughness and post game, and he struggled to have much impact in general because of his general lack of motor and drive.

I see every one of those same attributes in Chriss.

[Donoghus]

Chriss at #3 absolutely scares the heck out of me.