Ford Insider Article - Okafor Trade WITHOUT Giving up #3

[jpotter33]

https://twitter.com/ESPNForsberg/status/744897867895152640/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

I just have Forsberg's tweet on the matter, so if anyone else has the piece of the article dealing with us, feel free to post it.

Essentially, the trade is this:

Sixers: Bradley, Rozier, Hunter, 16, and 23

Celtics: Okafor, Stauskas, Carl Landry, 24, and 26

Now, obviously this seems like a much better deal than giving up the third pick, but we are still losing two valuable pieces in Bradley and Rozier, along with giving up the two better picks in the later first round in the deal. But it's interesting to see what he thinks Okafor's value really is, which just shows how much the logjam they have really hurts them.

However, I think you'd ultimately have to make this type of deal, because it still leaves you open to another deal, e.g. Butler with the #3 pick. But I'd change the players just a bit:

Sixers: Bradley, Rozier, Hunter, 16, and 23

Celtics: Okafor, Stauskas, Covington, 24, and 26

This would actually give us a little over $2M more in cap room, which would be helpful in any potential trade or free agent signings.

If we couldn't trade the third pick for a decent haul, then it'd seemingly set up either a Chriss or Bender pick at 3, since they're pretty much the perfect fit next to someone like Okafor long-term, i.e. excellent defensive potential, mobile, stretch the floor, etc.

[The One]

https://twitter.com/ESPNForsberg/status/744897867895152640/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

I just have Forsberg's tweet on the matter, so if anyone else has the piece of the article dealing with us, feel free to post it.

Essentially, the trade is this:

Sixers: Bradley, Rozier, Hunter, 16, and 23

Celtics: Okafor, Stauskas, Carl Landry, 24, and 26

Now, obviously this seems like a much better deal than giving up the third pick, but we are still losing two valuable pieces in Bradley and Rozier, along with giving up the two better picks in the later first round in the deal. But it's interesting to see what he thinks Okafor's value really is, which just shows how much the logjam they have really hurts them.

However, I think you'd ultimately have to make this type of deal, because it still leaves you open to another deal, e.g. Butler with the #3 pick. But I'd change the players just a bit:

Sixers: Bradley, Rozier, Hunter, 16, and 23

Celtics: Okafor, Stauskas, Covington, 24, and 26

This would actually give us a little over $2M more in cap room, which would be helpful in any potential trade or free agent signings.

If we couldn't trade the third pick for a decent haul, then it'd seemingly set up either a Chriss or Bender pick at 3, since they're pretty much the perfect fit next to someone like Okafor long-term, i.e. excellent defensive potential, mobile, stretch the floor, etc.

Although I would hate to lose Bradley and his year over year progress, this seems like a fair deal.

Then draft Dunn, I guess...

[TheSundanceKid]

I think I'd rather trade the #3 than Bradley in this deal. The three probably has more value so you could take out other pieces too. What is the objective in this trade? Is it to push to become a championship contender in 2-3 years time or 5-6? Because if we lose Bradley then I think we take a bigger step back than losing any player other than IT tbh.

If you want Okafor to grow in a playoff team and that team grow into a championship team then using the #3 pick is a better option.

If you are looking 5-6 years then ok use Bradley, but in that case I see IT being traded before the end of his contract too and for us to use all the Brooklyn picks.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Still too much. That's 4 first round picks and Bradley.

[slightly biased bias fan]

https://twitter.com/ESPNForsberg/status/744897867895152640/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

I just have Forsberg's tweet on the matter, so if anyone else has the piece of the article dealing with us, feel free to post it.

Essentially, the trade is this:

Sixers: Bradley, Rozier, Hunter, 16, and 23

Celtics: Okafor, Stauskas, Carl Landry, 24, and 26

Now, obviously this seems like a much better deal than giving up the third pick, but we are still losing two valuable pieces in Bradley and Rozier, along with giving up the two better picks in the later first round in the deal. But it's interesting to see what he thinks Okafor's value really is, which just shows how much the logjam they have really hurts them.

However, I think you'd ultimately have to make this type of deal, because it still leaves you open to another deal, e.g. Butler with the #3 pick. But I'd change the players just a bit:

Sixers: Bradley, Rozier, Hunter, 16, and 23

Celtics: Okafor, Stauskas, Covington, 24, and 26

This would actually give us a little over $2M more in cap room, which would be helpful in any potential trade or free agent signings.

If we couldn't trade the third pick for a decent haul, then it'd seemingly set up either a Chriss or Bender pick at 3, since they're pretty much the perfect fit next to someone like Okafor long-term, i.e. excellent defensive potential, mobile, stretch the floor, etc.

Although I would hate to lose Bradley and his year over year progress, this seems like a fair deal.

Then draft Dunn, I guess...

The thing I don't like about that trade is how strong it would make the 76ers. A like up of Rozier, Bradley, Simmons, Saric, Embiid is long term stronger than Thomas, Butler, Crowder, ? , Okafor

[TheSundanceKid]

https://twitter.com/ESPNForsberg/status/744897867895152640/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

I just have Forsberg's tweet on the matter, so if anyone else has the piece of the article dealing with us, feel free to post it.

Essentially, the trade is this:

Sixers: Bradley, Rozier, Hunter, 16, and 23

Celtics: Okafor, Stauskas, Carl Landry, 24, and 26

Now, obviously this seems like a much better deal than giving up the third pick, but we are still losing two valuable pieces in Bradley and Rozier, along with giving up the two better picks in the later first round in the deal. But it's interesting to see what he thinks Okafor's value really is, which just shows how much the logjam they have really hurts them.

However, I think you'd ultimately have to make this type of deal, because it still leaves you open to another deal, e.g. Butler with the #3 pick. But I'd change the players just a bit:

Sixers: Bradley, Rozier, Hunter, 16, and 23

Celtics: Okafor, Stauskas, Covington, 24, and 26

This would actually give us a little over $2M more in cap room, which would be helpful in any potential trade or free agent signings.

If we couldn't trade the third pick for a decent haul, then it'd seemingly set up either a Chriss or Bender pick at 3, since they're pretty much the perfect fit next to someone like Okafor long-term, i.e. excellent defensive potential, mobile, stretch the floor, etc.

Although I would hate to lose Bradley and his year over year progress, this seems like a fair deal.

Then draft Dunn, I guess...

I actually think Bender would be a good fit alongside Okafor. Remember we would still have Smart and IT at the PG position. If you're trading Bradley in this deal that's an indication that the rebuild is more long term than we currently think

[Quetzalcoatl]

I mean, if the Bulls would trade Butler for the #3 and little else (which is semi implausible but could happen), that would be amazing.  IT / Butler / Crowder / Amir / Okafor with lottery picks coming the next 2 years in a row....

[CFAN38]

Not the worst trade for the Cs. If Okafor is added to the roster and the 3rd pick is retained it would be a travesty to pass on Bender. I have my doubts with Bender but the fact is he projects as a potential perfect big man pairing with Okafor. In trading AB for a 20 year old center DA would be pushing this teams window to compete back and giving Bender time to develop. I would also suspect this deal would open the door for a Turner resign.

[CoachBo]

The only thing in that deal that gives me any heartburn is Bradley. I'd rather the Sixers take Smart. And I'd certainly draft Dunn at the 3.

Beyond that, Rozier is a maybe, Hunter is a wasted pick and the two picks this year aren't likely to amount to more than one useful player, given Ainge's drafting track record.

I'd probably make that deal. But not until I tried to get Philly to take Smart instead.

[celts55]

https://twitter.com/ESPNForsberg/status/744897867895152640/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

I just have Forsberg's tweet on the matter, so if anyone else has the piece of the article dealing with us, feel free to post it.

Essentially, the trade is this:

Sixers: Bradley, Rozier, Hunter, 16, and 23

Celtics: Okafor, Stauskas, Carl Landry, 24, and 26

Now, obviously this seems like a much better deal than giving up the third pick, but we are still losing two valuable pieces in Bradley and Rozier, along with giving up the two better picks in the later first round in the deal. But it's interesting to see what he thinks Okafor's value really is, which just shows how much the logjam they have really hurts them.

However, I think you'd ultimately have to make this type of deal, because it still leaves you open to another deal, e.g. Butler with the #3 pick. But I'd change the players just a bit:

Sixers: Bradley, Rozier, Hunter, 16, and 23

Celtics: Okafor, Stauskas, Covington, 24, and 26

This would actually give us a little over $2M more in cap room, which would be helpful in any potential trade or free agent signings.

If we couldn't trade the third pick for a decent haul, then it'd seemingly set up either a Chriss or Bender pick at 3, since they're pretty much the perfect fit next to someone like Okafor long-term, i.e. excellent defensive potential, mobile, stretch the floor, etc.

Although I would hate to lose Bradley and his year over year progress, this seems like a fair deal.

Then draft Dunn, I guess...

The thing I don't like about that trade is how strong it would make the 76ers. A like up of Rozier, Bradley, Simmons, Saric, Embiid is long term stronger than Thomas, Butler, Crowder, ? , Okafor

I don't mind the Sixers being a bit stronger, as that might drop the Nets down another notch.

[chambers]

The 76ers would never do this.

What is this guy smoking?

Chad Ford is hopeless haha.

[Eddie20]

https://twitter.com/ESPNForsberg/status/744897867895152640/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

I just have Forsberg's tweet on the matter, so if anyone else has the piece of the article dealing with us, feel free to post it.

Here you go...

The Okafor deal


Sixers send: Jahlil Okafor, Nik Stauskas, Carl Landry and picks Nos. 24 and No. 26
Celtics send: Avery Bradley, Terry Rozier, R.J. Hunter and picks Nos. 16 and No. 23

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Why the Sixers do it: The team has been shopping Okafor around the league and finding out he doesn't have the trade value they hoped he would. And with Ben Simmons expected to come aboard and Joel Embiid looking as if he might be able to play this season, Okafor just isn't a great fit in Philly.

Plus, the Sixers are going to need to surround Simmons with players who complement him -- especially shooters and elite defenders. Bradley is both; he's an especially good fit if the Sixers decide to play Simmons as a point guard on offense.

Rozier would give the Sixers a tough backup point guard, and Hunter is the sort of shooter who could help them if he hold his own defensively. The No. 16 and No. 23 picks would be upgrades over what the Sixers already have, and with No. 16 especially, the Sixers might be able to add another valuable contributor to the roster.

Why the Celtics do it: The Celtics get a big man they've liked a lot in Okafor without having to give up the No. 3 pick or core young players Marcus Smart and Kelly Olynyk. Okafor immediately helps them in the middle, and the Celtics can replace Bradley with the No. 3 pick -- whether that turns out to be Kris Dunn or Jamal Murray.

[jpotter33]

The 76ers would never do this.

What is this guy smoking?

Chad Ford is hopeless haha.

Well, I guess it depends upon what his value is around the league. The report was that the Sixers couldn't get a top-five pick for him, and if you look at the next teams in the draft (New Orleans, Denver, Sacramento, Toronto, etc.) they have no need for someone like Okafor. So something like that might be the best they could get for him.

I also wonder though if maybe Danny will try and use Okafor as a trade chip to get Cousins. Replacing Cousins with a cost-controlled good, young prospect like Okafor would certainly be quite a bit of incentive for them.

[jambr380]

Does anybody else think the inclusion of the #23 pick from us and #24 pick from Philly is unnecessary in this proposed fantasy deal? It just lengthens an already loaded deal.

Overall, it isn't horrible, but losing AB and Rozier hurts and I really have no desire to take on Carl Landry.

[acieEarl]

Kinda makes sense for Philly.

They get to keep Simmons, fill there want for Dunn with Bradley + Rozier/Hunter could be make up their future back court.