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Is the warriors overated?
« on: June 19, 2016, 11:14:16 PM »

Offline playdream

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From 1:3 to 4:3 and lose in their homecourt(despite degrading LBJ and disappear Love) don't mean nothing, granted health is a big factor but everyone has injuries.

Does that tell us 3-ball team can't really win it in the playoffs, and your bigs is the key afterall?
(Green/Bogut, Thunders Bigs , LBJ count as well)

Does this affect out draft choice?(Murray/Hield vs Brown/Bender)

Re: Is the warriors overated?
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2016, 11:16:45 PM »

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Good points.  Seems there is a still a need for rebounding but the biggest difference is defense, havin a superstar and having the refs on your side.  If yo have a superstar you can mug anyone and the refs will allow it

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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2016, 11:22:28 PM »

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Grammar Nazi no like this thread

Re: Is the warriors overated?
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2016, 11:26:48 PM »

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Yup.

Struggled putting away Portland, nearly lost to OKC. Then they fell back down to earth when Cleveland showed up.


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Re: Is the warriors overated?
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2016, 11:31:46 PM »

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They just happened to choke at the wrong time, just like the 07 Pats.

Why can't historic teams ever close the deal nowadays?  :(

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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2016, 11:32:01 PM »

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Is your grammar bad?
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

you vs. the guy she tells you not to worry about

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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2016, 11:33:55 PM »

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The Warriors were the best regular season team the last two years.

There's an argument to be made that if not for Kyrie getting injured last year, the Cavs would be back to back champions.  LeBron is still the best player in the league when it's playoff time.  On top of that, Kyrie has shown he can be the second best player on the floor in a series featuring Curry, LeBron, Klay, and Draymond.

So yes, they are overrated.  If the Kyrie had stayed healthy and the Cavs won last year, the Warriors would be talked about like the NBA version of the Buffalo Bills.

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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2016, 11:46:02 PM »

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Is your grammar bad?

"Is the warriors" is correct. "Warriors" is a collective noun, and you use the singular with collective nouns.

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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2016, 11:55:28 PM »

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Losing to the Cavs after being up 3-1 is bad, but I can somewhat forgive that with Draymond Green missing a critical game and Bogut missing time too.

The bigger worry for me was the way they struggled against OKC.  OKC have never really looked like a championship team despite their talent, and the Durant/Westbrook combo has always had it's issues - I don't see them as being the most disciplined team out there.  That OKC almost lost to them after such a big early lead was very concerning to me.

I thought maybe it was just a bad matchup, but to do the same against Cleveland tells me that's not the case.

With the embarrassing early slaughtering of the Spurs and now this  - it shows that no team in this league is unbeatable in a 7 game series.

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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2016, 11:56:10 PM »

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Is your grammar bad?

"Is the warriors" is correct. "Warriors" is a collective noun, and you use the singular with collective nouns.

This.

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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2016, 11:56:52 PM »

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Yes, they are.  Outside of being a great 3-point team, there is little to nothing else.  Everything else they do is meh.

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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2016, 12:00:10 AM »

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Is your grammar bad?

"Is the warriors" is correct. "Warriors" is a collective noun, and you use the singular with collective nouns.

This.



But yes, it appears they're overrated!
« Last Edit: June 20, 2016, 12:42:35 AM by Redz »
Yup

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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2016, 12:30:11 AM »

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Good points.  Seems there is a still a need for rebounding but the biggest difference is defense, havin a superstar and having the refs on your side.  If yo have a superstar you can mug anyone and the refs will allow it
But in this case Curry is the superstar(rising, all votes MVP, 73wins, defending champ)
I guess you can't have your superstar as a (skill type)guard
That said, It seems Playoff is like a higher league thus the bigger/stronger/athletic guys will have more advantage, so even as skilled/good as Curry is you can't really get it done.

So i guess Murray and Love is out of the option

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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2016, 12:37:59 AM »

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Haha, you gotta love "in the moment" narratives.

The Warriors chocked epically in this series. That said, you don't win 73 games in a season because you were doing all this stuff wrong. They played poorly the past 3 games, that doesn't mean that what they've been doing is "wrong".

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« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2016, 12:56:08 AM »

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They play an unhealthy brand of basketball. They win because they shoot a lot of 3s, they sustain because they can hit those 3s. After seeing them struggle against us during our two meetings this year, I started to see them as front runners.

When they are down, they get flustered and taken away from their game plan. They don't execute, don't play D, don't rebound, turn the ball over, etc. They can get back in by jacking up 3s, once they get their momentum back after hitting a few 3s, they are back to front running again.

I'm not going to say they are a bad team, or the regular season was a fluke. They are still a good team. But they are overrated and should not be able to change the landscape of the NBA.