Blakely: C's Narrowed down to Brown, Bender, Hield and Dunn

[BDeCosta26]

I don't see why people are so high on Chriss and Murray.  Chriss has a really dumb look on his face in most photos.   Both guys  are athletic and have some excitement to them that way but the reporting makes more sense to me, and usually i completely disagree with what is reported. I don't even think Hield ends up here.  The Lakers just worked him out and seems like he'd be at the end of our list. Maybe I'm getting lazy and just reading what people have to say more nowadays but even still. Just look at photos of Chriss. He has a really dumb look on his face. If that's our future so be it I guess.

Marquese Chriss at least right now equals a deer in headlights. I guess that could be good ultimately.  Murray has a good all around game.  I'm not that excited for either player though.

There isn't a player this draft at 3 that is going to come in and really set the world on fire right away.

The quality of talent coming into the league is not that exciting in general, but play has been changing for years.  It' s not so much a game of improvisation or player intelligence anymore. It's based on numbers and a lot of direction, so a deer in headlights might actually do well ultimately if he can run and jump. It's just different. It's more scripted from a lot of number crunching and direction in different ways vs doing other things.

I'm serious too.  Go to google and google images of celtics legends like Bird and Russell and compare their intelligent faces to a guy like Chriss.  This is what the nba has become.  It's so based on athleticism and predictable scripted mindless  styles of play you get players like this.  It's not even a mean thing to say. Red called Cousy a local yokel and refused to draft him at first until he smartened up and it's the same thing.   Yes Chriss could be good the way the NBA is now but the dude needs to wake up a bit.  Players now need to be able to react on the fly to fit the fast pace of the league and be aggressive.

We'll  probably end up taking him now who knows. Or Murray.   I'd take Chriss.  Murray has his own issues.  Decent all around player. But just seems cocky for a guy who really isn't that good.  Best player in the draft?  Really?

But honestly the rankings make sense.  Chriss and Murray aren't as developed as the other guys.  Maybe they are a bit more athletic and have higher upside down the road,but there is even more gambling involved and the upside difference isn't that great if at all.  They are lesser developed with possibly more upside but yeah.

All the prospects we are looking at are so close this year.    People think Bender is a mystery.  He's more developed mentally than Chriss.

My thoughts on Chriss not withstanding, I'd say that it's probably not wise to pick your favorite draft binkies based on how "dumb" they look in photos you've seen of them.

Googling pictures of Bird and Russell and comparing them to Marquise Chriss seems pretty dang stupid, IMO. I mean, I have legit concerns about Chriss' rebounding, defense and basketball IQ and thus I don't want us to draft him at #3, but it seems really silly to judge him on his facial expressions in photographs, no?

If we keep the pick, which I Think is less likely than trading it somehow, I think we either take Brown or Bender. Both of those guys have superstar potential and fairly high floors. Bender isn't going to be Darko, and Brown at worst is another Jae Crowder/Tony Allen type. If Brown develops his jump shot, he could easily be the next Kawhi.

Brown seems like exactly the kind of guy Danny would go for at #3. And I have no problem with that.

[walker834]

I don't care, LBJ just crushed the thought of KD coming here for all who believed LOL.

This is what I mean. I don't like LBJ either and he wins.  So Murray and Chriss are it lol.  I fear for the NBA and the future of the Celtics.

Let's just trade down and take both while we are at it.

[green_bballers13]

I don't see why people are so high on Chriss and Murray.  Chriss has a really dumb look on his face in most photos.   Both guys  are athletic and have some excitement to them that way but the reporting makes more sense to me, and usually i completely disagree with what is reported. I don't even think Hield ends up here.  The Lakers just worked him out and seems like he'd be at the end of our list. Maybe I'm getting lazy and just reading what people have to say more nowadays but even still. Just look at photos of Chriss. He has a really dumb look on his face. If that's our future so be it I guess.

Marquese Chriss at least right now equals a deer in headlights. I guess that could be good ultimately.  Murray has a good all around game.  I'm not that excited for either player though.

There isn't a player this draft at 3 that is going to come in and really set the world on fire right away.

The quality of talent coming into the league is not that exciting in general, but play has been changing for years.  It' s not so much a game of improvisation or player intelligence anymore. It's based on numbers and a lot of direction, so a deer in headlights might actually do well ultimately if he can run and jump. It's just different. It's more scripted from a lot of number crunching and direction in different ways vs doing other things.

I'm serious too.  Go to google and google images of celtics legends like Bird and Russell and compare their intelligent faces to a guy like Chriss.  This is what the nba has become.  It's so based on athleticism and predictable scripted mindless  styles of play you get players like this.  It's not even a mean thing to say. Red called Cousy a local yokel and refused to draft him at first until he smartened up and it's the same thing.   Yes Chriss could be good the way the NBA is now but the dude needs to wake up a bit.  Players now need to be able to react on the fly to fit the fast pace of the league and be aggressive.

We'll  probably end up taking him now who knows. Or Murray.   I'd take Chriss.  Murray has his own issues.  Decent all around player. But just seems cocky for a guy who really isn't that good.  Best player in the draft?  Really?

But honestly the rankings make sense.  Chriss and Murray aren't as developed as the other guys.  Maybe they are a bit more athletic and have higher upside down the road,but there is even more gambling involved and the upside difference isn't that great if at all.  They are lesser developed with possibly more upside but yeah.

All the prospects we are looking at are so close this year.    People think Bender is a mystery.  He's more developed mentally than Chriss.

What is an "intelligent face"? If such a thing exists, do you think Larry Bird would have one? I've heard people talk about his face before, but I'm not sure intelligent was the choice description.

[Rondo9]

I don't care, LBJ just crushed the thought of KD coming here for all who believed LOL.

He did?

[walker834]

I don't see why people are so high on Chriss and Murray.  Chriss has a really dumb look on his face in most photos.   Both guys  are athletic and have some excitement to them that way but the reporting makes more sense to me, and usually i completely disagree with what is reported. I don't even think Hield ends up here.  The Lakers just worked him out and seems like he'd be at the end of our list. Maybe I'm getting lazy and just reading what people have to say more nowadays but even still. Just look at photos of Chriss. He has a really dumb look on his face. If that's our future so be it I guess.

Marquese Chriss at least right now equals a deer in headlights. I guess that could be good ultimately.  Murray has a good all around game.  I'm not that excited for either player though.

There isn't a player this draft at 3 that is going to come in and really set the world on fire right away.

The quality of talent coming into the league is not that exciting in general, but play has been changing for years.  It' s not so much a game of improvisation or player intelligence anymore. It's based on numbers and a lot of direction, so a deer in headlights might actually do well ultimately if he can run and jump. It's just different. It's more scripted from a lot of number crunching and direction in different ways vs doing other things.

I'm serious too.  Go to google and google images of celtics legends like Bird and Russell and compare their intelligent faces to a guy like Chriss.  This is what the nba has become.  It's so based on athleticism and predictable scripted mindless  styles of play you get players like this.  It's not even a mean thing to say. Red called Cousy a local yokel and refused to draft him at first until he smartened up and it's the same thing.   Yes Chriss could be good the way the NBA is now but the dude needs to wake up a bit.  Players now need to be able to react on the fly to fit the fast pace of the league and be aggressive.

We'll  probably end up taking him now who knows. Or Murray.   I'd take Chriss.  Murray has his own issues.  Decent all around player. But just seems cocky for a guy who really isn't that good.  Best player in the draft?  Really?

But honestly the rankings make sense.  Chriss and Murray aren't as developed as the other guys.  Maybe they are a bit more athletic and have higher upside down the road,but there is even more gambling involved and the upside difference isn't that great if at all.  They are lesser developed with possibly more upside but yeah.

All the prospects we are looking at are so close this year.    People think Bender is a mystery.  He's more developed mentally than Chriss.

What is an "intelligent face"? If such a thing exists, do you think Larry Bird would have one? I've heard people talk about his face before, but I'm not sure intelligent was the choice description.

Bird looks like a bird. A killer one at that. But the look on his face is more refined than Chriss's deer in headlights look right now.

I would describe bird as being and looking intelligent though.  He's a thinker and smart guy.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

I don't care, LBJ just crushed the thought of KD coming here for all who believed LOL.

He did?

Well, he is god, haven't you heard?

[walker834]

Bird

http://a1.files.biography.com/image/upload/c_fit,cs_srgb,dpr_1.0,h_1200,q_80,w_1200/MTE1ODA0OTcxNTU2NDM5NTY1.jpg

Chriss

http://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/wmujvm-Marquese-Chriss-would-welcome-a-chance-to-play-for-Kings/ALTERNATES/LANDSCAPE_1140/Marquese%20Chriss%20would%20welcome%20a%20chance%20to%20play%20for%20Kings

Chriss looks like a smart guy too but he's got to mature and wake up a bit. He just looks a bit more in awe by it all. Nothing racist  with what i'm saying either. There are just differences.

Bill Russell is more like Bird where he just looks more refined.

https://blog-blogmediainc.netdna-ssl.com/upload/SportsBlogcom/1264668/0893163001421785386_filepicker.jpg

Then there is LEbron.  Mr Sly.

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/6YgHAKKWDN3KS4WlPNqstg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/racked.vox.com/afbeb2cb4847cb48ff0f29011b5068f5

I am picking select photos but if you go to google there are some nice pictuers of lebron. There are quite a few lejerk  pictures too.  Chriss he has some nice pictures but there are  quite a few deer in headlight ones.  Bird and Russell are not like that.  They look different in pictures but not like that.

Guys like Hield and Brown are also much more consistant in their appearance. So is Bender.  I'm not saying Chriss won't mature either.    He has the ability to be a Mcdyess sort of talent.  He could end up like taj gibson though.  Or something else all together. 

[Chris22]

I would be happy with Brown or Dunn.
I like Brown's strength and toughness.
It's a long season
I think Dunn would have injury issues.

[Beat LA]

I don't see why people are so high on Chriss and Murray.  Chriss has a really dumb look on his face in most photos.   Both guys  are athletic and have some excitement to them that way but the reporting makes more sense to me, and usually i completely disagree with what is reported. I don't even think Hield ends up here.  The Lakers just worked him out and seems like he'd be at the end of our list. Maybe I'm getting lazy and just reading what people have to say more nowadays but even still. Just look at photos of Chriss. He has a really dumb look on his face. If that's our future so be it I guess.

Marquese Chriss at least right now equals a deer in headlights. I guess that could be good ultimately.  Murray has a good all around game.  I'm not that excited for either player though.

There isn't a player this draft at 3 that is going to come in and really set the world on fire right away.

The quality of talent coming into the league is not that exciting in general, but play has been changing for years.  It' s not so much a game of improvisation or player intelligence anymore. It's based on numbers and a lot of direction, so a deer in headlights might actually do well ultimately if he can run and jump. It's just different. It's more scripted from a lot of number crunching and direction in different ways vs doing other things.

I'm serious too.  Go to google and google images of celtics legends like Bird and Russell and compare their intelligent faces to a guy like Chriss.  This is what the nba has become.  It's so based on athleticism and predictable scripted mindless  styles of play you get players like this.  It's not even a mean thing to say. Red called Cousy a local yokel and refused to draft him at first until he smartened up and it's the same thing.   Yes Chriss could be good the way the NBA is now but the dude needs to wake up a bit.  Players now need to be able to react on the fly to fit the fast pace of the league and be aggressive.

We'll  probably end up taking him now who knows. Or Murray.   I'd take Chriss.  Murray has his own issues.  Decent all around player. But just seems cocky for a guy who really isn't that good.  Best player in the draft?  Really?

But honestly the rankings make sense.  Chriss and Murray aren't as developed as the other guys.  Maybe they are a bit more athletic and have higher upside down the road,but there is even more gambling involved and the upside difference isn't that great if at all.  They are lesser developed with possibly more upside but yeah.

All the prospects we are looking at are so close this year.    People think Bender is a mystery.  He's more developed mentally than Chriss.

My thoughts on Chriss not withstanding, I'd say that it's probably not wise to pick your favorite draft binkies based on how "dumb" they look in photos you've seen of them.

Googling pictures of Bird and Russell and comparing them to Marquise Chriss seems pretty dang stupid, IMO. I mean, I have legit concerns about Chriss' rebounding, defense and basketball IQ and thus I don't want us to draft him at #3, but it seems really silly to judge him on his facial expressions in photographs, no?

If we keep the pick, which I Think is less likely than trading it somehow, I think we either take Brown or Bender. Both of those guys have superstar potential and fairly high floors. Bender isn't going to be Darko, and Brown at worst is another Jae Crowder/Tony Allen type. If Brown develops his jump shot, he could easily be the next Kawhi.

Brown seems like exactly the kind of guy Danny would go for at #3. And I have no problem with that.

Lol, TP.

[aingeforthree]

All are great prospects. It's a crap shoot. Hopefully we get lucky and pick the best out of the bunch. With Ainge and Stevens picking, I like our chances

[Sixth Man]

Bird

http://a1.files.biography.com/image/upload/c_fit,cs_srgb,dpr_1.0,h_1200,q_80,w_1200/MTE1ODA0OTcxNTU2NDM5NTY1.jpg

Chriss

http://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/wmujvm-Marquese-Chriss-would-welcome-a-chance-to-play-for-Kings/ALTERNATES/LANDSCAPE_1140/Marquese%20Chriss%20would%20welcome%20a%20chance%20to%20play%20for%20Kings

Chriss looks like a smart guy too but he's got to mature and wake up a bit. He just looks a bit more in awe by it all. Nothing racist  with what i'm saying either. There are just differences.

Bill Russell is more like Bird where he just looks more refined.

https://blog-blogmediainc.netdna-ssl.com/upload/SportsBlogcom/1264668/0893163001421785386_filepicker.jpg

Then there is LEbron.  Mr Sly.

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/6YgHAKKWDN3KS4WlPNqstg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/racked.vox.com/afbeb2cb4847cb48ff0f29011b5068f5

I am picking select photos but if you go to google there are some nice pictuers of lebron. There are quite a few lejerk  pictures too.  Chriss he has some nice pictures but there are  quite a few deer in headlight ones.  Bird and Russell are not like that.  They look different in pictures but not like that.

Guys like Hield and Brown are also much more consistant in their appearance. So is Bender.  I'm not saying Chriss won't mature either.    He has the ability to be a Mcdyess sort of talent.  He could end up like taj gibson though.  Or something else all together.

Move over, Dr. Niednagel, there's a new sheriff in town...!

[crimson_stallion]

This is no surprise to me. 

Out of the guys projected to go top 8, Murray and Chris made the least sense to me for a DA pick.

Chriss is a high risk / high upside prospect who appears to have pretty questionable character and basketball IQ - that's pretty much the complete opposite of the type of guys Danny usually goes after.

Murray is a pretty one dimensional guy who's only standout characteristic is his shooting ability - his lack of length and quickness limits his defensive potential and defensive versatility, while his lack of quickness/passing/handling ability limits his offensive versatility to that of a pure SG - where his lack of size becomes a problem.  If shooting is what Danny wants then he could get a better shooter in Hield, who is also quicker, taller, longer, and hence more versatile.  Or failing that he can add a shooter like Valentine, Korkmazor Beasley.

Though I'm not a big Bender fan, he fits the DA profile in that he's tall, fairly long, skilled, has high basketball IQ, and is known as a high motor and hard working guy.

Brown fits the profile because he has the physical tools to be a great defender, he's an aggressive scorer who plays hard, he's a better shooter then advertised, he's a very high IQ guy, and he's got great intangibles. 

Dunn fits the profile for the same reason as Brown - but as a bonus he's more NBA ready right now.

Hield fits because he's a top scorer, an elite shooter, he's a winner, he's got arguably the best intangibles in the draft, and he's got the size/length to potentially become a quality defender at three positions.

All makes perfect sense as the type of guys Danny would go after.

My personal preference at #3 would go something like this (in order):

1. Simmons
2. Dunn
3. Ingram
4. Hield
5. Brown
6. Bender (don't like him, but probably have to take him at this point)
7. Poeltl
8. Murray
9. Chriss
10. Davis
11. Ellenson
12. Labissiere

Sabonis could be a wildcard falling in the 11-13 range.

[Beat LA]

All are great prospects. It's a crap shoot. Hopefully we get lucky and pick the best out of the bunch. With Ainge and Stevens picking, I like our chances

I wish that I could say the same .

[mr. dee]

I don't care, LBJ just crushed the thought of KD coming here for all who believed LOL.

How so? I think it's better to eliminate Lebron and his team before finals so you can have the spotlight instead.