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Would you trade #3 for Russell to keep or for a trade for a star?

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Re: Report: Lakers Could Dangle Russell to get another pick in Top-5
« Reply #45 on: June 19, 2016, 02:11:54 AM »

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Post All Star break Russell averaged 18.6 points, 4.8 assists, 3 rebounds in 31 minutes, shooting 46.3% from the field and 48% from 3 pt land.

No sure where you got those post all star stats for Russell  but here are the correct post all star stats for him.

Post All-Star    Games 27   Mins 30.6    fgm-fga 5.3-13.1   fg% .401    3pt fgm-fga 1.8-4.7   3pt % .389    Reb 3.1    Ast 3.3   Pts 15.1

http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/1626156/stats/?p=dangelo-russell&Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&SeasonSegment=Post%20All-Star
« Last Edit: June 19, 2016, 06:29:21 PM by GC003332 »

Re: Report: Lakers Could Dangle Russell to get another pick in Top-5
« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2016, 02:28:41 AM »

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Post All Star break Russell averaged 18.6 points, 4.8 assists, 3 rebounds in 31 minutes, shooting 46.3% from the field and 48% from 3 pt land.

Exactly. He was a stud after the All Star break.

People are gonna say "oh but it was for a crappy 17 win lakers team, good stats on a bad team".

I ask those people: could Marcus smart put up those numbers, in the same opportunity Russell had? Doubt it. And so many of us love Smart.

D'Angelo Russell will have a better career than Marcus Smart, and (possibly) a better career than anyone else available at 3.

TP to Chambers for finding the actual numbers. I meant to do that and forgot about it.

But I think Smart could certainly average those numbers on a team like LA or Philly, though certainly not with those percentages.
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Re: Report: Lakers Could Dangle Russell to get another pick in Top-5
« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2016, 03:15:05 AM »

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I think I'd rather have Russell than what's available at #3.   Sounds like Russell is a better prospect than our options.

Same. He's a legit shot at a star, a better version of Murray in many ways. Hopefully, Danny can take advantage of LA's stupidity.
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Re: Report: Lakers Could Dangle Russell to get another pick in Top-5
« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2016, 03:23:22 AM »

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Post All Star break Russell averaged 18.6 points, 4.8 assists, 3 rebounds in 31 minutes, shooting 46.3% from the field and 48% from 3 pt land.

Exactly. He was a stud after the All Star break.

People are gonna say "oh but it was for a crappy 17 win lakers team, good stats on a bad team".

I ask those people: could Marcus smart put up those numbers, in the same opportunity Russell had? Doubt it. And so many of us love Smart.

D'Angelo Russell will have a better career than Marcus Smart, and (possibly) a better career than anyone else available at 3.
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Re: Report: Lakers Could Dangle Russell to get another pick in Top-5
« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2016, 03:24:05 AM »

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I think I'd rather have Russell than what's available at #3.   Sounds like Russell is a better prospect than our options.

Rather have Murray. Seems like a better version of Russell.
From what I've read, that's not accurate.

Re: Report: Lakers Could Dangle Russell to get another pick in Top-5
« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2016, 03:26:34 AM »

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Wow, a lot of people on here are severely underrating Russell, imo. Sure, that incident was stupid, but how many of us have all done stupid, immature things when we were his age? All of us did. It was an accident anyways. Still irresponsible, but it's not like he purposefully tried to break them up by snitching.

I think if he wasn't a Laker and didn't have that incident, people here would be drooling all over him. His offensive potential is ridiculous.
You are completely right.  The "Lockeroom cancer" thing is ridiculous.  I think I'd be more excited about adding Russell than jimmy butler.

Eh, I'd probably be happier grabbing Butler for AB and the 3rd pick than adding Russell, mostly because the majority of our team is like 24-27 and hes a star who fits right into our time-line.

That said, I think Russell is becoming a bit underrated around these parts. The locker took issues are concerning, I think it would be foolish to dismiss them because it really does affect the way people look at you, but he's a really talented player.
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Re: Report: Lakers Could Dangle Russell to get another pick in Top-5
« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2016, 03:34:40 AM »

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I think I'd rather have Russell than what's available at #3.   Sounds like Russell is a better prospect than our options.

Rather have Murray. Seems like a better version of Russell.
From what I've read, that's not accurate.

The way I see it, Russell's a better Murray virtually across the board.
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Re: Report: Lakers Could Dangle Russell to get another pick in Top-5
« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2016, 03:42:06 AM »

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I actually like Murray more than Russell in college but I don't know who will end up better.

Re: Report: Lakers Could Dangle Russell to get another pick in Top-5
« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2016, 03:46:02 AM »

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Post All Star break Russell averaged 18.6 points, 4.8 assists, 3 rebounds in 31 minutes, shooting 46.3% from the field and 48% from 3 pt land.

Exactly. He was a stud after the All Star break.

People are gonna say "oh but it was for a crappy 17 win lakers team, good stats on a bad team".

I ask those people: could Marcus smart put up those numbers, in the same opportunity Russell had? Doubt it. And so many of us love Smart.

D'Angelo Russell will have a better career than Marcus Smart, and (possibly) a better career than anyone else available at 3.

Lol, that's not much of a bar, imo ;D.

Re: Report: Lakers Could Dangle Russell to get another pick in Top-5
« Reply #54 on: June 19, 2016, 03:47:25 AM »

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I don't see any way Murray can be rated higher than Russell coming out of college. Same age, both at major programs, almost identical scoring. Russell blows him away though as a playmaker, and was a better defender.

Russell also showed he can do it right away at the pro level.

Some similarities, sure- but Russell is exactly what people are hoping Murray would be in a year or two.

Re: Report: Lakers Could Dangle Russell to get another pick in Top-5
« Reply #55 on: June 19, 2016, 03:03:29 PM »

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One year averaging 20 points a game, (or more) and all will be forgotten, in reference to his antics with Young. This is the NBA... stars rule.

He's gonna be really good shortly, he made a dumb mistake, he's 20 years old. KO is 25 and is heading into his 3 or 4th NBA season, and always hurt. 

Everyone wants Cousins on our team and he makes dumb mistakes weekly.   

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« Reply #56 on: June 19, 2016, 03:58:02 PM »

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Post All Star break Russell averaged 18.6 points, 4.8 assists, 3 rebounds in 31 minutes, shooting 46.3% from the field and 48% from 3 pt land.

Exactly. He was a stud after the All Star break.

People are gonna say "oh but it was for a crappy 17 win lakers team, good stats on a bad team".

I ask those people: could Marcus smart put up those numbers, in the same opportunity Russell had? Doubt it. And so many of us love Smart.

D'Angelo Russell will have a better career than Marcus Smart, and (possibly) a better career than anyone else available at 3.

Lol, that's not much of a bar, imo ;D.

More so a point that it's not just our guys that people think will have good careers. Just because Russell is a laker doesn't mean we should call him a bust, say he's trash, etc. Likewise, just because Marcus is a Celtic doesn't mean he's gonna have a fantastic career.
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Re: Report: Lakers Could Dangle Russell to get another pick in Top-5
« Reply #57 on: June 19, 2016, 04:18:16 PM »

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Post All Star break Russell averaged 18.6 points, 4.8 assists, 3 rebounds in 31 minutes, shooting 46.3% from the field and 48% from 3 pt land.

Exactly. He was a stud after the All Star break.

People are gonna say "oh but it was for a crappy 17 win lakers team, good stats on a bad team".

I ask those people: could Marcus smart put up those numbers, in the same opportunity Russell had? Doubt it. And so many of us love Smart.

D'Angelo Russell will have a better career than Marcus Smart, and (possibly) a better career than anyone else available at 3.

TP to Chambers for finding the actual numbers. I meant to do that and forgot about it.

But I think Smart could certainly average those numbers on a team like LA or Philly, though certainly not with those percentages.

Those are NOT D'Lo's actual numbers.

As another poster mentioned above, he averaged less than what is stated here.

Here's the link to his actual Post-ASG stats:

http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/1626156/stats/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&SeasonSegment=Post%20All-Star

Overall  GP  MIN  FGM  FGA  FG% 3PM 3PA  3P%  FTM FTA FT%  OREB DREB REB AST TOV STL BLK  PF  PTS   +/-
2015-16  27  30.6 5.3  13.1 40.1 1.8 4.7 38.9  2.8 3.6 77.3  0.6  2.4  3.1 3.3 2.5 1.1 0.1  2.0 15.1 -11.4


Not bad and an improvement over his Pre-ASG stats, but not anything special either.  Certainly not a "stud".

Re: Report: Lakers Could Dangle Russell to get another pick in Top-5
« Reply #58 on: June 19, 2016, 04:20:23 PM »

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Post All Star break Russell averaged 18.6 points, 4.8 assists, 3 rebounds in 31 minutes, shooting 46.3% from the field and 48% from 3 pt land.

Exactly. He was a stud after the All Star break.

People are gonna say "oh but it was for a crappy 17 win lakers team, good stats on a bad team".

I ask those people: could Marcus smart put up those numbers, in the same opportunity Russell had? Doubt it. And so many of us love Smart.

D'Angelo Russell will have a better career than Marcus Smart, and (possibly) a better career than anyone else available at 3.

We agree on something.

I'd take Russell for the 3 today, and get about the business of spinning Smart elsewhere, like to Philly. Zero question in my mind Russell will have a better career than Smart, and the hacking thing is nothing.
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« Reply #59 on: June 19, 2016, 04:32:31 PM »

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Post All Star break Russell averaged 18.6 points, 4.8 assists, 3 rebounds in 31 minutes, shooting 46.3% from the field and 48% from 3 pt land.

Exactly. He was a stud after the All Star break.

People are gonna say "oh but it was for a crappy 17 win lakers team, good stats on a bad team".

I ask those people: could Marcus smart put up those numbers, in the same opportunity Russell had? Doubt it. And so many of us love Smart.

D'Angelo Russell will have a better career than Marcus Smart, and (possibly) a better career than anyone else available at 3.

We agree on something.

I'd take Russell for the 3 today, and get about the business of spinning Smart elsewhere, like to Philly. Zero question in my mind Russell will have a better career than Smart, and the hacking thing is nothing.

The question becomes do you value Russell more than Dunn if you want to go franchise PG route?
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