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The schizophrenic Finals for Harrison Barnes!!!
« on: June 17, 2016, 09:20:26 AM »

Offline Smitty77

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He has had three games with PER's of 13, 23, and 19.

He has had three games with PER's of 4, -1, and -5.

WHY would WE EVER consider offering him a max??????????????

His average PER in the FINALS?  8.83

Stay AWAY Danny!!!

Do NOT take the bait.

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Re: The schizophrenic Finals for Harrison Barnes!!!
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I'd give him the MLE but no more than that  ;)

He is not helping is stock this series. Even with the cap rising only a desperate team like NOH or Sacramento would be dumb enough to give him a max contract.
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Re: The schizophrenic Finals for Harrison Barnes!!!
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2016, 09:41:22 AM »

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It's his career goes all the way back to his freshman year at UNC

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Someone is going to talk themselves into paying Barnes a lot of money based on potential.

I sure as heck hope its not the Boston Celtics.


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Re: The schizophrenic Finals for Harrison Barnes!!!
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2016, 10:11:48 AM »

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Where do you get single game PER numbers from?

Not that I think Harrison Barnes is worth big money, but this kinda feels like drawing a conclusion by looking at individual game +/- where all the big players are having extreme swings in this series.

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I'd be comfortable paying Barnes somewhere between $8 million and $12 million.

Allegedly, he's getting double that.  That's insanity.


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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2016, 10:17:55 AM »

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Where do you get single game PER numbers from?

Not that I think Harrison Barnes is worth big money, but this kinda feels like drawing a conclusion by looking at individual game +/- where all the big players are having extreme swings in this series.

Oh, totally.  Probably not the best stat to be using here.


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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2016, 10:29:17 AM »

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Wow...when he struggles, he REALLY struggles.

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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2016, 11:16:08 AM »

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Where do you get single game PER numbers from?

Not that I think Harrison Barnes is worth big money, but this kinda feels like drawing a conclusion by looking at individual game +/- where all the big players are having extreme swings in this series.

I get them from popcornmachine.net and they are based on ALL SIX Finals' games played thus far.

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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2016, 11:20:55 AM »

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Where do you get single game PER numbers from?

Not that I think Harrison Barnes is worth big money, but this kinda feels like drawing a conclusion by looking at individual game +/- where all the big players are having extreme swings in this series.

Oh, totally.  Probably not the best stat to be using here.

OK, how about I use +/- when Barnes has been on the floor in the Finals???

Here are those numbers starting with Game 1 and progressing to Game 6:  +7, +11, -24, +6, -8, and -20.

That means, that while in the court in the NBA Finals, Barnes is a minus 28.

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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2016, 07:30:28 PM »

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The two worst players on the floor in the Finals are (one for each team):

Barnes & Love

These are the 2 guys we want?


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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2016, 08:25:29 PM »

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I take offense to everything that has been said here. I wish carpal tunnel upon all of you.

Seriously, though, he would make us better. Who else do you plan to spend the money on? Sorry, but KD is not walking through that door. One can argue till blue in the face that we haven't attracted FAs because we didn't have the cap space... yet there's absolutely no reason to believe anyone is joining our scrappy, overachieving team any time soon. Heck, I doubt Barnes would. Why would he?!
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I'd much rather start Crowder than Barnes (I doubt I'm alone with this), and Barnes isn't going to go from starting for a contender to coming off the bench for a slightly above-average team, money be [dang]ed.

Pending a miracle trade swing by Ainge, the Celtics are better off using money that could be spent on Barnes on guys who are much cheaper but would add much more value combined like Crabbe and Hibbert.

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Who else do you plan to spend the money on?

That's the kind of thinking that gets you Ben Gordon and Charlie Vllanueva.
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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2016, 09:23:35 PM »

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Who else do you plan to spend the money on?

That's the kind of thinking that gets you Ben Gordon and Charlie Vllanueva.

You've taken a sentence of a longer post out of context. Barnes is not Gordon or Villanueva... so I'm failing to see the connection here. He literally just turned 24 years old and would likely be the 2nd best player on our team (and the other is 5'9").
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