Jaylen Brown vs Jamal Murray vs Marquese Chriss

[MJohnnyboy]

The thing is, the Celtics could end up with neither player because they could very well like Bender, Chriss, Dunn, or Hield more.

I'm not crazy about any of the guys who are being mentioned but I don't hate any of them. Whoever the Celtics take, I'll be cool with it. Granted, I think Danny is going to trade the pick, but I trust Danny to make the right move.

[Tr1boy]

The thing is, the Celtics could end up with neither player because they could very well like Bender, Chriss, Dunn, or Hield more.

I'm not crazy about any of the guys who are being mentioned but I don't hate any of them. Whoever the Celtics take, I'll be cool with it. Granted, I think Danny is going to trade the pick, but I trust Danny to make the right move.

Danny prob won't know who to pick until the day of

Chriss is a darkhorse no doubt

[PickNRoll]

Brown has great athleticism and is, apparently, smart... in an academic sense.  His BBallIQ doesn't quite measure up to his academic IQ.  He had some plays this year that were jaw-dropping in terms of the athleticism.  Like 2 long strides from the 3 point line and a vicious left-handed jam over 2 guys.  Somebody like Josh Smith comes to mind. 

But the thing that's lingering in my mind is, what is the precedent for this type of player becoming a superstar?  A guy with limited shooting ability.  Limited as a playmaker.  Decent rebounder.  Pretty one-dimensional as a scorer.  I'm not sure he gets there.  He seems like a worse version of Andrew Wiggins.

Murray on the other hand doesn't have nearly the athletic gifts but his game is much more refined.  He can obviously shoot the lights out, but he also has a sweet in-between game --  12 foot pullup bank shots and floaters.  His bbiq is much higher.  He's downright slow for an nba guard, but he has good timing, hesitation moves, anticipation, good at positioning, spacing, and underrated ball handling.

You can make a team out of guys like Murray.  He has the POTENTIAL to be a really savvy, starting, scoring 2 guard.  I think Murray is Allan Houston.  Shooting trumps athleticism.

[Tr1boy]

*Adding another prospect to the subject

Ainge recently said this about Chriss

"And Marquese Chriss is a young and very athletic player that has a lot of growth still to his game, but he has an enormous upside."

So what about Chriss vs Brown. Who has the higher upside?

[BDeCosta26]

*Adding another prospect to the subject

Ainge recently said this about Chriss

"And Marquese Chriss is a young and very athletic player that has a lot of growth still to his game, but he has an enormous upside."

So what about Chriss vs Brown. Who has the higher upside?

If Brown learns how to shoot, he could be an All-Star.

If Chriss learns how to rebound and defend, he could be an All-Star.

Who you betting on improving to that point? I'd go with Brown. A lot easier to learn to shoot.

[Tr1boy]

*Adding another prospect to the subject

Ainge recently said this about Chriss

"And Marquese Chriss is a young and very athletic player that has a lot of growth still to his game, but he has an enormous upside."

So what about Chriss vs Brown. Who has the higher upside?

If Brown learns how to shoot, he could be an All-Star.

If Chriss learns how to rebound and defend, he could be an All-Star.

Who you betting on improving to that point? I'd go with Brown. A lot easier to learn to shoot.

Browns focus on defense needs work too

BTW Brown while considered a good rebounder for a sf/sg was not like pulling down 7-8 rpg

so both are about the same right now.   

Chriss should be able to start out as a SF in the NBA

[dreamgreen]

*Adding another prospect to the subject

Ainge recently said this about Chriss

"And Marquese Chriss is a young and very athletic player that has a lot of growth still to his game, but he has an enormous upside."

So what about Chriss vs Brown. Who has the higher upside?

If Brown learns how to shoot, he could be an All-Star.

If Chriss learns how to rebound and defend, he could be an All-Star.

Who you betting on improving to that point? I'd go with Brown. A lot easier to learn to shoot.

Think Austin said that.

Chriss could be a decent rebounder in the NBA. Nobody boxes out anymore it's a jumping contest 60% of the time and he would win most of those. Defending he has the ability to do and you hope he just needs coaching. If it's effort than you're screwed and you don't want him.

[Tr1boy]

*Adding another prospect to the subject

Ainge recently said this about Chriss

"And Marquese Chriss is a young and very athletic player that has a lot of growth still to his game, but he has an enormous upside."

So what about Chriss vs Brown. Who has the higher upside?

If Brown learns how to shoot, he could be an All-Star.

If Chriss learns how to rebound and defend, he could be an All-Star.

Who you betting on improving to that point? I'd go with Brown. A lot easier to learn to shoot.

Think Austin said that.

Chriss could be a decent rebounder in the NBA. Nobody boxes out anymore it's a jumping contest 60% of the time and he would win most of those. Defending he has the ability to do and you hope he just needs coaching. If it's effort than you're screwed and you don't want him.

Then you picked jeff green part 2

[jpotter33]

*Adding another prospect to the subject

Ainge recently said this about Chriss

"And Marquese Chriss is a young and very athletic player that has a lot of growth still to his game, but he has an enormous upside."

So what about Chriss vs Brown. Who has the higher upside?

Chriss by far. He's got Anthony Davis level upside with his mix of versatility and size/athleticism. I love the kid and hope he's our pick, though I ultimately think we end up trading it.

[budMovin]

Murray. Not wasting a top 3 pick on a player that has questions on basketball IQ and heart.

[BDeCosta26]

*Adding another prospect to the subject

Ainge recently said this about Chriss

"And Marquese Chriss is a young and very athletic player that has a lot of growth still to his game, but he has an enormous upside."

So what about Chriss vs Brown. Who has the higher upside?

If Brown learns how to shoot, he could be an All-Star.

If Chriss learns how to rebound and defend, he could be an All-Star.

Who you betting on improving to that point? I'd go with Brown. A lot easier to learn to shoot.

Browns focus on defense needs work too

BTW Brown while considered a good rebounder for a sf/sg was not like pulling down 7-8 rpg

so both are about the same right now.   

Chriss should be able to start out as a SF in the NBA

Okay, but Brown is considered a plus defender overall. Chriss is not.

The 6'6 Brown doesn't need to be a 7-8 RPG type of dude. Chriss, at 6'10, 6'11 should be a better rebounder than he is. I'm not saying the kid doesn't have HUGE upside, because he does, but your betting on Chriss developing talents that are harder to develop than shooting, whereas Jaylen Brown is a jump shot away from being a clear cut top level prospect.

Personally, I want to trade the pick for someone not named Jahlil Okafor, but if I had to pick between the two, I pick Brown. With his iQ, he could be a top notch player with a little development, whereas Chriss needs a lot more development in areas that are harder to develop.

[Tr1boy]

*Adding another prospect to the subject

Ainge recently said this about Chriss

"And Marquese Chriss is a young and very athletic player that has a lot of growth still to his game, but he has an enormous upside."

So what about Chriss vs Brown. Who has the higher upside?

If Brown learns how to shoot, he could be an All-Star.

If Chriss learns how to rebound and defend, he could be an All-Star.

Who you betting on improving to that point? I'd go with Brown. A lot easier to learn to shoot.

Browns focus on defense needs work too

BTW Brown while considered a good rebounder for a sf/sg was not like pulling down 7-8 rpg

so both are about the same right now.   

Chriss should be able to start out as a SF in the NBA

Okay, but Brown is considered a plus defender overall. Chriss is not.

The 6'6 Brown doesn't need to be a 7-8 RPG type of dude. Chriss, at 6'10, 6'11 should be a better rebounder than he is. I'm not saying the kid doesn't have HUGE upside, because he does, but your betting on Chriss developing talents that are harder to develop than shooting, whereas Jaylen Brown is a jump shot away from being a clear cut top level prospect.

Personally, I want to trade the pick for someone not named Jahlil Okafor, but if I had to pick between the two, I pick Brown. With his iQ, he could be a top notch player with a little development, whereas Chriss needs a lot more development in areas that are harder to develop.

This is up for a debate

Chriss is a better/fluid shooter vs brown (this is not easy to fix)

Also 6'9-6'9.5 vs 6-6/6'7

Chriss is well beyond above rim too

[The One]

Tough tough question.

I like all three but for different reasons.

Murray - shooting but needs to defend better

Brown - athleticism but needs to shoot better

Chriss - athleticism but needs to rebound better

I'm thinking Brown but like others have said I'm probably going to change my mind again and again.

Plus I like Bender more than these three, for now...I'm so confused. 

[max215]

My board:

Bender, Murray, Brown, Chriss. I expect that we'll take Murray if we don't trade it.

[crimson_stallion]

Neither is a real favourite of mine, but out of these three, my preference would be Brown.

* I think Murray's ceiling / upside is too limited
* I think Chriss's floor is too low (too high a risk)

Brown I think has the right floor/ceiling ratio.  He's high a high upside, and yet has enough talent physical and in terms of skills) to ensure he should have minimal risk of being a major bust - should at least contribute SOMETHING in the NBA.  Chriss and Murray - I'm not so sure.