An offer to Pat Riley: #3 pick for Justise Winslow

[Global Celtic]

Would Miami do it? Any other piece needed?
If I'm Danny, I'm repeating the godfather offer for Winslow. Just an awesome talent/competitor at age 20...

[hodgy03038]

Are you serious? I didn't see Winslow as being that valuable. 16 maybe and Young.

42% FG 68% FT 27% 3pt 6.5 RPG - not worth a #3

[action781]

If I'm Miami, I'm not sure I do it.  Why do they say yes to this?  To draft who?  Seems like a high risk (could be trading away a talented and popular player for a potential bust), medium reward move (how much better can the #3 pick be than Winslow?) for Miami.

Yet at the same time, I'm not sure if I do it as Boston either.  Crowder and Winslow are awfully redundant -- too redundant to have on the floor together I think.  But man, I really do like Winslow a lot.

That said I still find this idea really intriguing.

[action781]

Are you serious? I didn't see Winslow as being that valuable. 16 maybe and Young.

42% FG 68% FT 27% 3pt 6.5 RPG - not worth a #3

Did you watch a lot of the Toronto series?  He's 20 years old and played excellent defense on everybody 1-5 from Lowry to Derozan to Biyombo.  It was incredible.  He's going to be a perennial staple on the all-defensive team.

[max215]

I doubt Miami does that. Maybe they'd want Bender if Bosh is done, but Winslow is a proven stud defender at 20...and might be more.

[moiso]

The anti Smart people should not want Winslow.   He's a taller Smart.

[alldaboston]

The anti Smart people should not want Winslow.   He's a taller Smart.

I'm pro-Smart. Love his game. But I still don't want Winslow. For all the great things smart does for us, he's still (at this point) a liability on offense. At least with Marcus, playing the PG position gives him a better chance at developing his game. With Winslow, I just don't see it. I really like Winslow, but for our team, we can do a LOT better with the pick (maybe Murray?) than we could with Winslow.


Of course, seeing as how Danny was selling the farm for Winslow last year, I'm pretty sure we are taking Jaylen Brown 3rd next week. I still think I'd take Brown over Winslow too.

[action781]

The anti Smart people should not want Winslow.   He's a taller Smart.

Somewhat yeah.  I'd say he's more valuable than Smart right now though as he's taller, more versatile defensively, and he can play positions where lack of shooting is not such a detriment.

[jay]

To me,

It comes down to if you like Jaylen Brown better or not.  Similar size players: who fits the team better.

[Who]

Yeah, I think I'd take Winslow at #3 if he were in this draft so I'm in.

50-50 whether Miami would do it.

[CoachBo]

I have more faith Winslow will develop into a scorer than Smart's fundamentally flawed shot, and his poor shot selection.

This is an interesting idea, one way to guarantee value for the pick instead of gambling it, and one way to add a player that makes the Celtics immediately better.

I still remain intrigued by grabbing Dunn, making Danny the person of contact for the teams below who want him or affording us the opportunity of off-loading Smart for more immediate scoring help, i.e. Okafor.

[Eddie20]

I like Winslow a lot, but his shot is so mechanical that I'm not sure if he can ever get it to a respectable level.

Miami won't be invested in this trade, though. Riley is looking to clear cap space (see McRoberts maybe even Dragic) in order to re-sign both Wade and Whiteside and perhaps have a bit more for something else. They're in a really bad spot at the moment since they have to take care of Wade first and foremost, due to his 30M cap hold, then move on to Whiteside who could be gone by then.

[Moranis]

I'm a Bender guy so unless I think the player is a better prospect than Bender, I don't do the trade.  I don't believe Winslow is a better prospect than Bender, so I don't do the trade.

[celticsclay]

Are you serious? I didn't see Winslow as being that valuable. 16 maybe and Young.

42% FG 68% FT 27% 3pt 6.5 RPG - not worth a #3

Did you watch a lot of the Toronto series?  He's 20 years old and played excellent defense on everybody 1-5 from Lowry to Derozan to Biyombo.  It was incredible.  He's going to be a perennial staple on the all-defensive team.

I mean he got a DNP-CD one of the games and played 14 minutes in another. He played more once Whiteside was injured out of necessity, but there weren't a lot of other options. Plus lets not forget about the other side of the ball. In 14 games in the playoffs he shot 16% from 3 and averaged 6 points. For the whole regular season he was only at 27% shooting from 3. For a team that desperately needs shooting he is kind of the last player we need right now. Also the 3rd pick is a laughable overpay IMO

[aingeforthree]

Heck no, Miami wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do it for #1, either. Winslow has got a shot at greatness in this league.  He's already got it defensively, and that's at 20 years old. What happens when he actually develops his game & learns this league ?