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Re: This is why we have to let Sully go
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2016, 07:48:49 PM »

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Yeah, let somebody else take a risk on him. He's not the answer at PF and he's a bad bet long term.

Only at a high price.  He is still arguably the most overall talented player on the team. You don't let talents like that just walk because you think they might be too fat years down the road.

He's too fat RIGHT NOW.

We've seen enough to know that his conditioning will get worse over the course of the year.  He's prone to back and foot injuries due to his weight.  His productivity declines during a game if you play him more than 20-24 minutes or so.

Jared can rebound and pass a bit but I just don't think the Celts can afford to make any significant monetary commitment to a guy who is such a poor finisher and mediocre shooter.

I would much, much rather start Jerebko and give minutes to Mickey or one of the guys the Celts draft next week.  Sullinger can be somebody else's problem.
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Re: This is why we have to let Sully go
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2016, 08:13:49 PM »

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Because he is a fat slob that doesn't put in the effort to get in better shape, enough said.

Re: This is why we have to let Sully go
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2016, 08:22:55 PM »

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what a dope. 

why don't they look at anthony bennett?   stevens could resurrect him into a sully type player.

Re: This is why we have to let Sully go
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2016, 08:58:33 PM »

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He cleaned out the ice cream freezer?

Re: This is why we have to let Sully go
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2016, 09:03:17 PM »

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Imagine what his conditioning will be like AFTER he signs a multi-million dollar contract. He can't be trusted to take his conditioning seriously.

Good luck Sully, it's been real

Re: This is why we have to let Sully go
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2016, 09:21:45 PM »

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I agree that the only way to resign Sully is with a weight clause in the deal that he is forced to adhere to. That is the only way.

I'm a sucker for reclamation projects, so I'd definitely kick the tires on Anthony Bennett . . . and Thomas Robinson for that matter. Give me T Rob ASAP. Short money, excellent athleticism, will continue to improve his game.

Re: This is why we have to let Sully go
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2016, 09:23:27 PM »

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Also learn to workout on an empty stomach. Wake up , have a cup of black coffee or green tea and do 40 min cardio.
Not to sidetrack this, but this is a good way to get yourself gastritis or ulcers.

Yeah man.  Have some toast with peanut butter or a hard boiled egg.

no. Well then have green tea prior to working out

For a guy like Sully, it's better on an empty stomach

Re: This is why we have to let Sully go
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2016, 09:58:43 PM »

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I was a Sully supporter over his first two seasons in the league.  He has legitimate NBA skills, and with some dedication he could have solidified his status as a starter or key bench player for many years to come.

Not so much anymore.  One of the major turning points for me was this:

http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/12545144/boston-celtics-forward-jared-sullinger-facing-heavy-burden

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"People say, 'Hire a nutritionist,' but it's not that simple,'' he explained. "What people don't understand is after a game, you get hungry. I stay up late, I'm not falling asleep and I want to eat. The hardest calories to burn off are those late-night calories.

"And that's what has been getting me this year. I have to work 10 times, 30 times as hard to keep off those extra 400 calories.

What a bunch of nonsense.  Yes it's true that there are significant metabolic differences between people.  But it's not 10 to 30 times more difficult.  It's not even 2 times more difficult.  I'm a registered dietitian and have worked with many people with weight management problems.  But you don't need any nutrition knowledge to know that what he's saying is completely false.  Sure you get hungry after a game.  That's why you have a meal plan - a flexible meal plan created by someone who knows what they're doing - and you follow it.

His statements simply demonstrate that he's unwilling to hold himself accountable and that he's fine with living by excuses.  And it shows, evidenced by significant weight gain during the past two seasons.  Even his dad had dropped from 390 lbs to 270 lbs or so, and he's much older - and was much fatter - than Sully, who is young and is a professional athlete. 

Besides his excuses and lack of commitment, he just doesn't fit well with the way the Celtics want to play.  The Celtics want players who:
- Are high character, hard workers, and play like they have something to prove. 
- Are able to offer defensive versatility (i.e. switch on pick and rolls, cross-match on other players in transition) and can guard multiple positions.
- Can play effectively in transition.  With regards to bigs, the Celtics like players who can run the floor.
- Can space the floor (although many of our players don't necessarily do this all that well just yet)
- Commit to a team-first culture.

Sullinger offers none of these things.  It's time to move on, even if we do miss some of his on-floor contributions such as rebounding.  I'd be sorely disappointed if he's back on the C's next year.
I don't agree with the highlighted points. Surely, Jared is speaking in hyperbole when he says it's 20-30 times more difficult. Sullinger is the norm, not the exception when it comes to weight loss. Statistics show almost all over-weight people regain the weight they lose after dieting.

If keeping at an ideal weight was as simple as having "a flexible meal plan created by someone who knows what they're doing - and you follow it" then the diet industry would go out of business overnight. There are a myriad of factors on why people cannot follow a plan whether it be physical and or psychological.

Even though I don't have a weight problem I've done some research in this area.They say one of the major problems with losing weight has to do with the enteric nervous system which is in the digestive track. There are a huge number of nerves in this system. I heard one researcher describe it as like having a second brain in the body over which you have no control over.

It runs unconsciously in our body. It sends signals to your brain telling it that you are hungry or full. One cannot control this nervous system through sheer willpower. In a matter of speaking, it has a mind of its own. This may be especially true for those who can't lose weight.

This is just one factor that limits dieters success. If one incorporates other factors like; a predisposition to gain weight because of one's biology, plus lifelong psychological and emotional factors, then one can understand this problem much more clearly.

I am not making excuses for Sully. What I'm trying to say is that weight loss for most people is far more complicated than simply following a diet plan.   

   

Re: This is why we have to let Sully go
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2016, 10:05:47 PM »

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If keeping at an ideal weight was as simple as having "a flexible meal plan created by someone who knows what they're doing - and you follow it" then the diet industry would go out of business overnight. There are a myriad of factors on why people cannot follow a plan whether it be physical and or psychological.
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Re: This is why we have to let Sully go
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2016, 10:25:12 PM »

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I am not making excuses for Sully. What I'm trying to say is that weight loss for most people is far more complicated than simply following a diet plan.   

This may be true, but it doesn't apply to somebody in Sully's position. It greatly benefits him in his profession to remain in shape. The more in shape he is, the more success he and his team will have, and the more money he will make. He has everything in the world to gain by remaining in optimal condition...especially in a contract year.

Sometimes it really comes down to willpower and we should be more disappointed in Sully and his development, rather than calling him 'fat-ass' or whatever. That's just not necessary.

Re: This is why we have to let Sully go
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2016, 01:02:48 AM »

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I was a Sully supporter over his first two seasons in the league.  He has legitimate NBA skills, and with some dedication he could have solidified his status as a starter or key bench player for many years to come.

Not so much anymore.  One of the major turning points for me was this:

http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/12545144/boston-celtics-forward-jared-sullinger-facing-heavy-burden

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"People say, 'Hire a nutritionist,' but it's not that simple,'' he explained. "What people don't understand is after a game, you get hungry. I stay up late, I'm not falling asleep and I want to eat. The hardest calories to burn off are those late-night calories.

"And that's what has been getting me this year. I have to work 10 times, 30 times as hard to keep off those extra 400 calories.

What a bunch of nonsense.  Yes it's true that there are significant metabolic differences between people.  But it's not 10 to 30 times more difficult.  It's not even 2 times more difficult.  I'm a registered dietitian and have worked with many people with weight management problems.  But you don't need any nutrition knowledge to know that what he's saying is completely false.  Sure you get hungry after a game.  That's why you have a meal plan - a flexible meal plan created by someone who knows what they're doing - and you follow it.

His statements simply demonstrate that he's unwilling to hold himself accountable and that he's fine with living by excuses.  And it shows, evidenced by significant weight gain during the past two seasons.  Even his dad had dropped from 390 lbs to 270 lbs or so, and he's much older - and was much fatter - than Sully, who is young and is a professional athlete. 

Besides his excuses and lack of commitment, he just doesn't fit well with the way the Celtics want to play.  The Celtics want players who:
- Are high character, hard workers, and play like they have something to prove. 
- Are able to offer defensive versatility (i.e. switch on pick and rolls, cross-match on other players in transition) and can guard multiple positions.
- Can play effectively in transition.  With regards to bigs, the Celtics like players who can run the floor.
- Can space the floor (although many of our players don't necessarily do this all that well just yet)
- Commit to a team-first culture.

Sullinger offers none of these things.  It's time to move on, even if we do miss some of his on-floor contributions such as rebounding.  I'd be sorely disappointed if he's back on the C's next year.
I don't agree with the highlighted points. Surely, Jared is speaking in hyperbole when he says it's 20-30 times more difficult. Sullinger is the norm, not the exception when it comes to weight loss. Statistics show almost all over-weight people regain the weight they lose after dieting.

If keeping at an ideal weight was as simple as having "a flexible meal plan created by someone who knows what they're doing - and you follow it" then the diet industry would go out of business overnight. There are a myriad of factors on why people cannot follow a plan whether it be physical and or psychological.

Even though I don't have a weight problem I've done some research in this area.They say one of the major problems with losing weight has to do with the enteric nervous system which is in the digestive track. There are a huge number of nerves in this system. I heard one researcher describe it as like having a second brain in the body over which you have no control over.

It runs unconsciously in our body. It sends signals to your brain telling it that you are hungry or full. One cannot control this nervous system through sheer willpower. In a matter of speaking, it has a mind of its own. This may be especially true for those who can't lose weight.

This is just one factor that limits dieters success. If one incorporates other factors like; a predisposition to gain weight because of one's biology, plus lifelong psychological and emotional factors, then one can understand this problem much more clearly.

I am not making excuses for Sully. What I'm trying to say is that weight loss for most people is far more complicated than simply following a diet plan.   

   

Yes it's an oversimplification.  The simple point was that while he was speaking in hyperbole, really it's just his way of bemoaning his genetics and using it as an excuse rather than taking a proactive approach and keeping himself within an acceptable weight range.  And that's why he fails.  Hungry after practice or a game?  Plan accordingly.  With professional resources at hand, he could have tons of meal and snack options, that can help guide him towards his weight management goals.  He also has access to psychologists and other professionals should he need them to address the emotional aspect of his habits.

Having actually worked in this area as a career, I'm well aware of the other factors involved in successful weight management.  You can debate the psychological, physiological, sociocultural, or environmental aspects of eating all you want.  At some point the science needs to meet practicality.  Given all the bad information that's out there, it's typically not worth it to argue over with people on the internet.  It's too time consuming.  But hey, people read a few scientific articles and everyone's an expert these days, even though they don't have an ounce of practical experience in the area.  If you want to give Sully some leeway by attributing his weight problems to his psychological state, or his enteric nervous system - or his "2nd mind of it's own" - then by all means, go ahead.  His enteric nervous system doesn't choose the food that's on his plate, and furthermore extremely calorie dense meals aren't necessary to trigger satiety.  Need emotional support?  Seek behavioral therapy, keep a food journal, and do your best to adhere to a good meal plan.  More oversimplifications, I suppose.

I'll also say this - many dieters fail because they "diet".  Losing weight is the easy part.  Keeping it off is the real challenge.  Many diets are not sustainable, and hence people fail and regain their weight.  Another oversimplification.  But the diet industry knows this, and that's why it's such a profitable industry.  Dieters' failures are their successes.

Back on topic, if anyone thinks that there are good reasons to actually sign Sully to a long-term deal, I'd like to hear them.  Because I can't think of any.

Re: This is why we have to let Sully go
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2016, 01:29:07 AM »

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I've been a Sully defender in the past because he's a guy with borderline all star talent who has been ripped in the past by people comparing him to veteran players in their prime.  But after this past season, when he had tens of millions of dollars riding on it, he not only didn't really get in shape but his conditioning was seemingly worse at the end of the year than the beginning.

If Sully wants to play for the qualifying offer next year, fine.  He might even beat his weight problem someday.  But you can't give a long term deal to someone with his track record.

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Re: This is why we have to let Sully go
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2016, 02:40:01 AM »

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By when do the C's need to extend the QO? Surely they will, but by when can he sign an offer sheet with another team?
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Re: This is why we have to let Sully go
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2016, 08:22:33 AM »

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I was a Sully supporter over his first two seasons in the league.  He has legitimate NBA skills, and with some dedication he could have solidified his status as a starter or key bench player for many years to come.

Not so much anymore.  One of the major turning points for me was this:

http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/12545144/boston-celtics-forward-jared-sullinger-facing-heavy-burden

Quote
"People say, 'Hire a nutritionist,' but it's not that simple,'' he explained. "What people don't understand is after a game, you get hungry. I stay up late, I'm not falling asleep and I want to eat. The hardest calories to burn off are those late-night calories.

"And that's what has been getting me this year. I have to work 10 times, 30 times as hard to keep off those extra 400 calories.

What a bunch of nonsense.  Yes it's true that there are significant metabolic differences between people.  But it's not 10 to 30 times more difficult.  It's not even 2 times more difficult.  I'm a registered dietitian and have worked with many people with weight management problems.  But you don't need any nutrition knowledge to know that what he's saying is completely false.  Sure you get hungry after a game.  That's why you have a meal plan - a flexible meal plan created by someone who knows what they're doing - and you follow it.

His statements simply demonstrate that he's unwilling to hold himself accountable and that he's fine with living by excuses.  And it shows, evidenced by significant weight gain during the past two seasons.  Even his dad had dropped from 390 lbs to 270 lbs or so, and he's much older - and was much fatter - than Sully, who is young and is a professional athlete. 

Besides his excuses and lack of commitment, he just doesn't fit well with the way the Celtics want to play.  The Celtics want players who:
- Are high character, hard workers, and play like they have something to prove. 
- Are able to offer defensive versatility (i.e. switch on pick and rolls, cross-match on other players in transition) and can guard multiple positions.
- Can play effectively in transition.  With regards to bigs, the Celtics like players who can run the floor.
- Can space the floor (although many of our players don't necessarily do this all that well just yet)
- Commit to a team-first culture.

Sullinger offers none of these things.  It's time to move on, even if we do miss some of his on-floor contributions such as rebounding.  I'd be sorely disappointed if he's back on the C's next year.
I don't agree with the highlighted points. Surely, Jared is speaking in hyperbole when he says it's 20-30 times more difficult. Sullinger is the norm, not the exception when it comes to weight loss. Statistics show almost all over-weight people regain the weight they lose after dieting.

If keeping at an ideal weight was as simple as having "a flexible meal plan created by someone who knows what they're doing - and you follow it" then the diet industry would go out of business overnight. There are a myriad of factors on why people cannot follow a plan whether it be physical and or psychological.

Even though I don't have a weight problem I've done some research in this area.They say one of the major problems with losing weight has to do with the enteric nervous system which is in the digestive track. There are a huge number of nerves in this system. I heard one researcher describe it as like having a second brain in the body over which you have no control over.

It runs unconsciously in our body. It sends signals to your brain telling it that you are hungry or full. One cannot control this nervous system through sheer willpower. In a matter of speaking, it has a mind of its own. This may be especially true for those who can't lose weight.

This is just one factor that limits dieters success. If one incorporates other factors like; a predisposition to gain weight because of one's biology, plus lifelong psychological and emotional factors, then one can understand this problem much more clearly.

I am not making excuses for Sully. What I'm trying to say is that weight loss for most people is far more complicated than simply following a diet plan.   

   

Yes it's an oversimplification.  The simple point was that while he was speaking in hyperbole, really it's just his way of bemoaning his genetics and using it as an excuse rather than taking a proactive approach and keeping himself within an acceptable weight range.  And that's why he fails.  Hungry after practice or a game?  Plan accordingly.  With professional resources at hand, he could have tons of meal and snack options, that can help guide him towards his weight management goals.  He also has access to psychologists and other professionals should he need them to address the emotional aspect of his habits.

Having actually worked in this area as a career, I'm well aware of the other factors involved in successful weight management.  You can debate the psychological, physiological, sociocultural, or environmental aspects of eating all you want.  At some point the science needs to meet practicality.  Given all the bad information that's out there, it's typically not worth it to argue over with people on the internet.  It's too time consuming.  But hey, people read a few scientific articles and everyone's an expert these days, even though they don't have an ounce of practical experience in the area.  If you want to give Sully some leeway by attributing his weight problems to his psychological state, or his enteric nervous system - or his "2nd mind of it's own" - then by all means, go ahead.  His enteric nervous system doesn't choose the food that's on his plate, and furthermore extremely calorie dense meals aren't necessary to trigger satiety.  Need emotional support?  Seek behavioral therapy, keep a food journal, and do your best to adhere to a good meal plan.  More oversimplifications, I suppose.

I'll also say this - many dieters fail because they "diet".  Losing weight is the easy part.  Keeping it off is the real challenge.  Many diets are not sustainable, and hence people fail and regain their weight.  Another oversimplification.  But the diet industry knows this, and that's why it's such a profitable industry.  Dieters' failures are their successes.

Back on topic, if anyone thinks that there are good reasons to actually sign Sully to a long-term deal, I'd like to hear them.  Because I can't think of any.

TP Thanks for clarifying. I was concerned some might misconstrue your original message and think that all one needs is a diet plan and to follow it to lose and keep weight off. Couldn't agree more with your following statement.
"Plan accordingly.  With professional resources at hand, he could have tons of meal and snack options, that can help guide him towards his weight management goals.  He also has access to psychologists and other professionals should he need them to address the emotional aspect of his habits. "

He has the financial means to hire psychologists, professionals and whatnot to be successful. And, $millions of reasons to hire people who can assist him reach his fitness goals. I have two wealthy friends who had weight problems their entire lives. Finally, they changed course and keep weight off by hiring professionals to modify their diet. One has personal chefs prepare all his meals. No reason why Sully can't hire someone to have low calorie, filling and tasteful foods ready for him after games and on a daily basis. 

As for signing Sully long term. I agree. I wouldn't give him more than a 2-3 year deal. My concern is not so much for his fitness level. I suspect his back bothers him more than he's letting on. This may have played a bigger role on his decline later in the season than any weight gain. If his back is still bothering him, then it's likely it will be with him throughout his career. 

Re: This is why we have to let Sully go
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2016, 08:35:50 AM »

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I was a Sully supporter over his first two seasons in the league.  He has legitimate NBA skills, and with some dedication he could have solidified his status as a starter or key bench player for many years to come.

Not so much anymore.  One of the major turning points for me was this:

http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/12545144/boston-celtics-forward-jared-sullinger-facing-heavy-burden

Quote
"People say, 'Hire a nutritionist,' but it's not that simple,'' he explained. "What people don't understand is after a game, you get hungry. I stay up late, I'm not falling asleep and I want to eat. The hardest calories to burn off are those late-night calories.

"And that's what has been getting me this year. I have to work 10 times, 30 times as hard to keep off those extra 400 calories.

What a bunch of nonsense.  Yes it's true that there are significant metabolic differences between people.  But it's not 10 to 30 times more difficult.  It's not even 2 times more difficult.  I'm a registered dietitian and have worked with many people with weight management problems.  But you don't need any nutrition knowledge to know that what he's saying is completely false.  Sure you get hungry after a game.  That's why you have a meal plan - a flexible meal plan created by someone who knows what they're doing - and you follow it.

His statements simply demonstrate that he's unwilling to hold himself accountable and that he's fine with living by excuses.  And it shows, evidenced by significant weight gain during the past two seasons.  Even his dad had dropped from 390 lbs to 270 lbs or so, and he's much older - and was much fatter - than Sully, who is young and is a professional athlete. 

Besides his excuses and lack of commitment, he just doesn't fit well with the way the Celtics want to play.  The Celtics want players who:
- Are high character, hard workers, and play like they have something to prove. 
- Are able to offer defensive versatility (i.e. switch on pick and rolls, cross-match on other players in transition) and can guard multiple positions.
- Can play effectively in transition.  With regards to bigs, the Celtics like players who can run the floor.
- Can space the floor (although many of our players don't necessarily do this all that well just yet)
- Commit to a team-first culture.

Sullinger offers none of these things.  It's time to move on, even if we do miss some of his on-floor contributions such as rebounding.  I'd be sorely disappointed if he's back on the C's next year.
I don't agree with the highlighted points. Surely, Jared is speaking in hyperbole when he says it's 20-30 times more difficult. Sullinger is the norm, not the exception when it comes to weight loss. Statistics show almost all over-weight people regain the weight they lose after dieting.

If keeping at an ideal weight was as simple as having "a flexible meal plan created by someone who knows what they're doing - and you follow it" then the diet industry would go out of business overnight. There are a myriad of factors on why people cannot follow a plan whether it be physical and or psychological.

Even though I don't have a weight problem I've done some research in this area.They say one of the major problems with losing weight has to do with the enteric nervous system which is in the digestive track. There are a huge number of nerves in this system. I heard one researcher describe it as like having a second brain in the body over which you have no control over.

It runs unconsciously in our body. It sends signals to your brain telling it that you are hungry or full. One cannot control this nervous system through sheer willpower. In a matter of speaking, it has a mind of its own. This may be especially true for those who can't lose weight.

This is just one factor that limits dieters success. If one incorporates other factors like; a predisposition to gain weight because of one's biology, plus lifelong psychological and emotional factors, then one can understand this problem much more clearly.

I am not making excuses for Sully. What I'm trying to say is that weight loss for most people is far more complicated than simply following a diet plan.   

   

Yes it's an oversimplification.  The simple point was that while he was speaking in hyperbole, really it's just his way of bemoaning his genetics and using it as an excuse rather than taking a proactive approach and keeping himself within an acceptable weight range.  And that's why he fails.  Hungry after practice or a game?  Plan accordingly.  With professional resources at hand, he could have tons of meal and snack options, that can help guide him towards his weight management goals.  He also has access to psychologists and other professionals should he need them to address the emotional aspect of his habits.

Having actually worked in this area as a career, I'm well aware of the other factors involved in successful weight management.  You can debate the psychological, physiological, sociocultural, or environmental aspects of eating all you want.  At some point the science needs to meet practicality.  Given all the bad information that's out there, it's typically not worth it to argue over with people on the internet.  It's too time consuming.  But hey, people read a few scientific articles and everyone's an expert these days, even though they don't have an ounce of practical experience in the area.  If you want to give Sully some leeway by attributing his weight problems to his psychological state, or his enteric nervous system - or his "2nd mind of it's own" - then by all means, go ahead.  His enteric nervous system doesn't choose the food that's on his plate, and furthermore extremely calorie dense meals aren't necessary to trigger satiety.  Need emotional support?  Seek behavioral therapy, keep a food journal, and do your best to adhere to a good meal plan.  More oversimplifications, I suppose.

I'll also say this - many dieters fail because they "diet".  Losing weight is the easy part.  Keeping it off is the real challenge.  Many diets are not sustainable, and hence people fail and regain their weight.  Another oversimplification.  But the diet industry knows this, and that's why it's such a profitable industry.  Dieters' failures are their successes.

Back on topic, if anyone thinks that there are good reasons to actually sign Sully to a long-term deal, I'd like to hear them.  Because I can't think of any.

TP Thanks for clarifying. I was concerned some might misconstrue your original message and think that all one needs is a diet plan and to follow it to lose and keep weight off. Couldn't agree more with your following statement.
"Plan accordingly.  With professional resources at hand, he could have tons of meal and snack options, that can help guide him towards his weight management goals.  He also has access to psychologists and other professionals should he need them to address the emotional aspect of his habits. "

He has the financial means to hire psychologists, professionals and whatnot to be successful. And, $millions of reasons to hire people who can assist him reach his fitness goals. I have two wealthy friends who had weight problems their entire lives. Finally, they changed course and keep weight off by hiring professionals to modify their diet. One has personal chefs prepare all his meals. No reason why Sully can't hire someone to have low calorie, filling and tasteful foods ready for him after games and on a daily basis. 

As for signing Sully long term. I agree. I wouldn't give him more than a 2-3 year deal. My concern is not so much for his fitness level. I suspect his back bothers him more than he's letting on. This may have played a bigger role on his decline later in the season than any weight gain. If his back is still bothering him, then it's likely it will be with him throughout his career.
He had back issues which caused him to drop to the C's in the draft.  Does his weight impact his back?  This is not uncommon as he may be compensating for the extra weight by taking an unnatural posture.

Ultimately, none of us have all the information at hand.  C's trainers and management will make the right decision based upon his prospects for modifying his eating behavior.

I would also say his eating compulsion may be related to stress in his personal life, and we know he had the domestic abuse charges.  This is pure speculation on my part.