Murray 79-100 & Heild 83-100

[PaulP34]

http://oklahoma.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Jamal-Murray-Buddy-Hield-impress-in-Celtics-workouts-45788260

These two lit up the 3 point shot workout for the Celtics. Anyone think one of these two kids get the call over Bender or Brown ?

I love Buddy but most on the board think he won't amount to much because of his age. But man did he put on a clinic in front of the Brass

[hwangjini_1]

thanks for the thread, however this is already being covered i believe.

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=85122.msg2103562#new

[PaulP34]

Oh darn. Sorry I missed that.

[greece66]

I love the idea  of Boston trying players in workout sessions. It's much better than just looking at tapes and stats.

Having said this, I'm not sure how much these x/100 3s actually mean.

There are amateurs who can make 70/100 3s on a good day.

[hpantazo]

Considering how often Ainge has said in his interviews over the past 2 seasons that we need shooting and scoring, he has to seriously consider one or both of these guys, right? How can he get up in front of the fans and media again and say this team badly needs shooting if he passes on them and drafts a non-shooter like Brown?

I guess he could have a plan to address shooting through the FA market, but it looks like slim pickings out there for great shooters.

[PaulP34]

Considering how often Ainge has said in his interviews over the past 2 seasons that we need shooting and scoring, he has to seriously consider one or both of these guys, right? How can he get up in front of the fans and media again and say this team badly needs shooting if he passes on them and drafts a non-shooter like Brown?

I guess he could have a plan to address shooting through the FA market, but it looks like slim pickings out there for great shooters.

I would assume if Danny is thinking of drafting one of these guys I'd personally go with Buddy but Murray is younger. They almost have the same value other then the age difference. But can't we just sign Dudley who would work of the bench anyway ? Idk, probably be cheaper if we draft them n sign them to a rookie contract. Then we would be giving up on the 7'1 Bender and the elusive Jaylen Brown. Its so hard to think which guy is the best option. So much talent who to choose. I'd love to have the #3 pick and somehow trade some other picks for the #6

[playdream]

Really Don't know whats the meaning of testing no-contest 3s

[droopdog7]

Really Don't know whats the meaning of testing no-contest 3s

There's a meaning, I think.  But these numbers, while very good, are not nearly as impressive as people think.  There are probably many no names that can approach these numbers as well.

[Sketch5]

I love the idea  of Boston trying players in workout sessions. It's much better than just looking at tapes and stats.

Having said this, I'm not sure how much these x/100 3s actually mean.

There are amateurs who can make 70/100 3s on a good day.

Even if thats true, how many of them are doing it for to get a job in front of the big bad bosses? Doing it in you back yard is one thing,but I bet that 70 goes down to 60 or 55 if some one offered them 1+ mill a year for 4 years if they can get more than 70.

These drills do more than just see how many makes a kid gets, but the focus of doing it over and over again and how their form looks and how consistent it is.

[IDreamCeltics]

Really Don't know whats the meaning of testing no-contest 3s

Fair question... anyone find a video of the drill?

[Sketch5]

Really Don't know whats the meaning of testing no-contest 3s

They are looking for focus, stamina, form and consistency in that form. And if they have all of the above, it usually translate into good numbers.

I think they also don't do it from the same spot twice in a row, which shows foot work to an extent. But that might be a different drill.

[greece66]

I love the idea  of Boston trying players in workout sessions. It's much better than just looking at tapes and stats.

Having said this, I'm not sure how much these x/100 3s actually mean.

There are amateurs who can make 70/100 3s on a good day.

Even if thats true, how many of them are doing it for to get a job in front of the big bad bosses? Doing it in you back yard is one thing,but I bet that 70 goes down to 60 or 55 if some one offered them 1+ mill a year for 4 years if they can get more than 70.

These drills do more than just see how many makes a kid gets, but the focus of doing it over and over again and how their form looks and how consistent it is.

Exactly. Form and consistency are key. Also when I say amateurs I mean ppl playing in Greece's lesser divisions; only A1 and A2 (a total of 28 teams) are professional in Greece. All the rest are semi-professional or amateur.

The players I am talking about are 6-6.3 and not very strong or athletic but they sure can shoot well, esp. without D. In other words, they have the technique but not the physique to be professionals.
If you ask me, 70/100 is good but not exceptional; There should be plenty of DLeaguers who can do that too.

The point is not to diminish in any way what Murray and Heild did but to say that, look, this is just one of many factors; on its own it does not mean much.

Esp. for Heild the worry from the start was whether he would be able to make 3s against NBA defences.

[playdream]

Really Don't know whats the meaning of testing no-contest 3s

They are looking for focus, stamina, form and consistency in that form. And if they have all of the above, it usually translate into good numbers.

I think they also don't do it from the same spot twice in a row, which shows foot work to an extent. But that might be a different drill.

But why not do it with a man infront and a hand in his face then?
We are talking top class professional sports here
I mean isn't it you really want to see?
(ex: What if Murray went down to 55/100 and Hield to 75/100)

[Beat LA]

I love the idea  of Boston trying players in workout sessions. It's much better than just looking at tapes and stats.

Having said this, I'm not sure how much these x/100 3s actually mean.

There are amateurs who can make 70/100 3s on a good day.

It's the other way around, imo.  Anyone can look great in a workout.  Just ask Joe Dumars about Darko, lol.  The only thing that matters in regards to shooting is how they perform during games, in my view.

[chiken Green]

Big time Job interview and both these kids answered the bell.. 

True we don't know what either of these kids will do in competition (though I feel I know what Buddy would) but I don't think this should be dismissed either though..

Buddy, coming in, knowing what Murray put up, took the added pressure and excelled..  Seems like he may have that Ray Allen Clutch gene..