isn't avery an all star of sorts

[rollie mass]

what do you call the best guard defender in league that avgs 15points-
i love defence, so to me avery is an all star add in his 15pts a game and he is priceless
the opponents know it,the coaches know it
the lateral speed and art of getting over the top coupled with the hand speed of a pickpocket
 to defeat offenses that are designed to slow you down, a maze of screens and roadblocks
-the under appreciated intuitivness,guile that is necessary to stop the best quards on the planet-
the physical expense ,the unappreciated game long grind and still being able to score 15 points
 the composition of the celts perimeter defence and its success to overcome that lack of a big or with sully with even 5-9 isaiah
to watch players and coaches demoralized just shaking there head as their players surrender to the game long pressure
-when the celts had four straight steals to win the game to me that was a pinacle in a year of great defencive plays
defence is an art form there are some like marcus a force and crowder but they all have that intuitiveness and defensive DNA-
avery is unappreciated -i think of avery as an all star -

[Csfan1984]

He alright but he ain't no star.

[Beat LA]

Well, yeah - that's why he made the all defensive first team this year (finally).  He still can't dribble or pass, though, nor does he get to the line, but he deserves to be on a contender, imo.  Put him on OKC and they could probably beat the Warriors.  Make it happen, Danny, lol. 

[Beat LA]

He alright but he ain't no star.

He kind of reminds me of a better shooting, albeit worse dribbling, version of Lindsey Hunter.  That guy was relentless.

[mr. dee]

He is up there with Michael Cooper, Bruce Bowen and Tony Allen. A very valuable piece on a championship team.

[Greyman]

Avery deserves more love. His PPG has consistently increased and could again next year. His defence is freakish an extent that he should only ever be traded if God (or LeBron) is coming back.

I know many fans believe that AB is not the sort of asset that attracts all stars but I say different. AB would have many top players happy to play alongside him.

[rollie mass]

thats why i started this post,avery needs his own team to start promoting him
-avery is the last of the old time celts at only 24 and getting better and injured less
the best defensive quard in the league,alone that is special then add his off ball and his outside shooting -this kid  is only 24 and what a contract-
 danny give him a raise you guys got an extension rewrite his contract-avery is the best in the league and whats that worth, where everybody is trying to score from outside
-there is a reason fans have taken to this team its defence that never quits-we beat teams without a real rim protector sully can't move ,kelly no length and vertical -
get a rim protector  and have the best defence in league

[ABOS (A bit of Sanity)]

thats why i started this post,avery needs his own team to start promoting him
-avery is the last of the old time celts at only 24 and getting better and injured less
the best defensive quard in the league,alone that is special then add his off ball and his outside shooting -this kid  is only 24 and what a contract-
 danny give him a raise you guys got an extension rewrite his contract-avery is the best in the league and whats that worth, where everybody is trying to score from outside
-there is a reason fans have taken to this team its defence that never quits-we beat teams without a real rim protector sully can't move ,kelly no length and vertical -
get a rim protector  and have the best defence in league

Avery is a great player but this whole thing is going a bit overboard. He is an Elite Defender and a good enough shooter. But hes not a top 3 player on championship team so that in its self is enough to quell the excitement a bit. Hes a terrific role player and would be a great compliment to many Elite teams, Cleveland and OKC to specific but hes by no means a non trade-able asset and he should be used to get a better talent (Jimmy Butler) to BOS if possible.

[rollie mass]

why not go overboard for what we have
 he is not only elite, he was voted the best defensive guard in league
i got taught ,as well as got drilled to play team defense by one of the best rollie massimino,so my appreciation is defense oriented
my earliest heroes were bill russell,dave cowens,havilcheck
all this craziness about this guy, that guy, who to draft, who to let walk gets dizzying and goes against my growing loyalty to some of our players-

[CelticPride2016]

I like posting on Rollie's threads because he seems to actually discuss the team rather than hypothetical trades or draft selections.Those other things are fine, but how many more posts can be generated that will mostly end up classified later as waste of time comments? Look at all that talk of Kevin Love a few years ago when it seemed he might play for us and not Cleveland. Was all that not a waste of time?

Bradley improved last year. Maybe it was not as noticeable as Crowder, but it happened.

1) He finished much better at the hoop
2) He was a more efficient shooter
3) He figured out how to dribble

He is an all-star on defense. His offense is solid. It's nice to have positions where we can check them off and say, "That's good. We can move on to improving the team at other positions."

There is one last flaw Avery has to figure out if he wants to be towards the top of any all-star list. There is simply too much competition to get awards like that. Was Nomar Garciaparra critiqued for not being A-Fraud or Jeter? No. Now maybe Bradley isn't the third best at his position as Nomar was, but he is certainly up there on the list.

I am looking at his stats. Last year Avery improved with steals, assists, and 2 pt. shot percentage. He shot threes at 36% and his free throws at 78%. For a great defender, he is very good on offense too. That seems to be what Rollie is saying. He's already proven on defense and gets it done on offense. I think a lot of people don't realize how good Avery is. And if he can knock it off with his lousy passes, something Tommy would point out, he is most definitely a starter on a championship team.

Avery also played almost every game the last two seasons, so he has even improved at staying healthy or whatever the word is for making it onto the court more. He now has more stamina. He is almost a finished product, so to speak, and still very young.

I think the poster Shaq Attack kept referring to Avery as mini-Kobe. Avery made some kind of leap last year. He went from being a chucker to more of an artist at scoring.

[BlackCeltic]

Avery isnt even worthy of being captain of this team, nevermind all star.

[chiken Green]

I absolutely love AB - easily one of my favorite Current Celtics. And his defense is special.  But with that said on our championship team With IT running the point you need more of an Offensive threat from that position.  AB is a first quarter shooting machine but something always seems to happen in the 2nd half.. I would be very interested to know his averages by Quarters.. I personally think its because he spends so much energy on Defense that it sucks away his offense toward the end of the game..

Anyway. AB is awesome and a great Role model for the younger players..  But with an undersized Point Guard Bradly isn't what we need Starting in Boston to turn the corner. 

(Jeeze it hurts to say that)

[mctyson]

yes...and that's reason Danny said he would prevent Avery from trying to play against Atlanta with the injured hamstring.

[mmmmm]

Well, yeah - that's why he made the all defensive first team this year (finally).  He still can't dribble or pass, though, nor does he get to the line, but he deserves to be on a contender, imo.  Put him on OKC and they could probably beat the Warriors.  Make it happen, Danny, lol.

Bradley's dribble actually has improved a lot and if I recall correctly, his dribble turnover stats were fine this year. 

His passing continues to be a problem, as that is where his TO/pass ratios are just awful.

But in a system that doesn't expect him to pass much, and instead work primarily as a finisher, he is overall very valuable.   I don't know if I'd say he was quite 'all star' valuable.   But pretty darn valuable.

One thing that's compelling about Bradley, though, is how he methodically has improved something about his game every year.

[vjcsmoke]

Bradley is a very good player, and elite defensively.  He can really shut down and harrass opposing guards.  Valuable player to keep if we can hold onto him.  Great value contract as well.