Would MIN accept Marcus Smart for the #5 pick?

[wiley]

In general don't think the Celtics would do it, with a couple of unlesses....
I think Minny would do this deal.  They need to turn the corner and this is a turn the corner kind
of deal for them.  They might ask for a second rounder, but for all we know so might Danny. 

Unless:  they are very committed to keeping both Crowder and Bradley longterm for defensive identity
Unless:  Dunn is available and they seem him as an upgrade to Smart, and are willing to eventually
             start Dunn next to IT (unlikely scenario...I think they'd trade IT eventually if taking Dunn)
unless:  They are jonesing for a good shooter more than people realize (taking Hield or Murray, or
             maybe even Chirss, at 5.). 

[Irish Stew]

They would not. Only the Celtics value bricklaying smalls this highly. Though you could always pair him with Rubio and create the worst shooting backcourt in league history.

[Boris Badenov]

Why on earth would Minny want Smart and Rubio? To assemble the worst-shooting backcourt in the history of the NBA?

[Boris Badenov]

They would not. Only the Celtics value bricklaying smalls this highly. Though you could always pair him with Rubio and create the worst shooting backcourt in league history.

Haha. You beat me to it by about five seconds. TP.

[wiley]

They would not. Only the Celtics value bricklaying smalls this highly. Though you could always pair him with Rubio and create the worst shooting backcourt in league history.

Haha. You beat me to it by about five seconds. TP.

It's not about next year.  They do it for the longterm picture.  They have the offense in spades.

[dreamgreen]

Why would MIN want Smart? I assume with Smart they trade Rubio? You can only have so many guards that can't shoot right?

[ssspence]

Why on earth would Minny want Smart and Rubio? To assemble the worst-shooting backcourt in the history of the NBA?

I seriously doubt Rubio's future in MIN. I doubt he'll be on the Wolves by this time next year.

[Bucketgetter]

I guess you guys haven't watched the wolves much because Smart is about as bad as a fit as you can get for that team. Their number one problem is shooting, and you propose to take their best spot up shooter, Lavine, out of the lineup for a bricklayer named Smart? Yes they had defensive woes last year, but that's what bringing in Thibs is for. You don't bring in a defensive mastermind just to go and get great defensive players, you bring him in to improve your defense and make bad defensive players better. If I coached a team of Rubio/Smart/Wiggins/Dieng/KAT, I would have them in the top 10 of defense.
So there is no way the wolves would do this deal, as they would need the shooting of Murray/Bender/Hield/Chriss much more than they would need the defense of Smart.

[TheSundanceKid]

There is 0% chance Boston would do this... why turn a guy who they put in so much time into, is an elite defender, and has improved his shooting?

I take it you voted "yes".

The only part of this that's both true and relevant is that Smart is an elite defender. The Cs have other truly elite wing defenders, not to mention recent draft picks at Smart's position.

So, there are a variety of reasons they might. Two examples:

1) they find a nice deal for a veteran guard that includes the 3 pick but doesn't include Smart, but see a draft prospect they believe has high upside at 5.

2) they can't find a good deal for 3, take another guard with that pick because they deem him BPA, and still see a draft prospect they believe has higher upside than Smart at 5.

I don't buy the Cs wouldn't trade Smart because he's played there for 2 years. And I'd be absolutely shocked is Ainge and Thibs don't talk deal in some way shape or form before the draft.

Smart is a guy loved by Team USA, lauded for his impact on defence, out of this world competitive, young and already a more solid pro than most draft picks turn into. It would be illogical to trade him for a draft pick of a guy who might pan out better. I can see the logic behind using him in a deal for a star but not to trade up in a draft that is apparently short in superstar talent

Thinnest post I've read lately. You're a fan. That's great. But just because you don't want him traded doesn't make it illogical to do so if the Cs feel a better player is available.

Regardless, the poll question is regarding how the Wolves may value Marcus. Clearly you see him as worthy of such a deal, so appreciate the feedback.

Well luckily everything that coach Stevens and Ainge have said indicates that the Cs value him high enough not to trade him for a draft pick.

I definitely think him worthy of that deal, in fact as you may have guessed I think the deal undervalues him.

I understand that "we need shooters" and whatnot but that doesn't equal "sell our guys on the cheap". Anyone with doubt about his shot can look to Bradley as an example of his projected improvement. I don't really see other downsides to him apart from the flopping which I hope goes away.

I also don't see anyone at 5 who is likely to end up a better player than Smart. Murray will be a good shooter but he'll give up as many on the defensive end, Dunn is a poor mans Smart and Hield I believe will struggle to translate his success to the NBA.

[LarBrd33]

i read this wrong as "would you trade Smart for #5" and voted "yes".   You were asking if Min would accept Smart for #5... that's probably "no". 

[ssspence]

I guess you guys haven't watched the wolves much because Smart is about as bad as a fit as you can get for that team. Their number one problem is shooting, and you propose to take their best spot up shooter, Lavine, out of the lineup for a bricklayer named Smart? Yes they had defensive woes last year, but that's what bringing in Thibs is for. You don't bring in a defensive mastermind just to go and get great defensive players, you bring him in to improve your defense and make bad defensive players better. If I coached a team of Rubio/Smart/Wiggins/Dieng/KAT, I would have them in the top 10 of defense.
So there is no way the wolves would do this deal, as they would need the shooting of Murray/Bender/Hield/Chriss much more than they would need the defense of Smart.

Who said anything about replacing Levine? Why wouldn't the two pair up in the Wolves backcourt?

[Ilikesports17]

Lets say we trade 3 to Philly for Okafor and then they take Dunn and Phoenix takes Bender.

Who would we take at 5?

[TA9]

Lets say we trade 3 to Philly for Okafor and then they take Dunn and Phoenix takes Bender.

Who would we take at 5?

Probably Jaylen Brown or Buddy Hield. I would rather keep Marcus.

[Who]

Yeah, I think that is a fair trade. I have to imagine that Thibs would love a defensive guard like Smart. Minny badly to upgrade their defensive mentality. Smart would help create that new defensive culture.

[Who]

Although, it would be awesome to see Hield next to Wiggins and Towns.

How well would that young trio complement one another? Wow.