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Would MIN accept Marcus Smart for the #5 pick?

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Would MIN accept Marcus Smart for the #5 pick?
« on: June 05, 2016, 11:22:20 AM »

Offline ssspence

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I'm really not interested in getting into another thread about prospect comparisons. What I'd like to know from fellow bloggers is whether it's reasonable to think Tom Thibadeau would be willing to trade the #5 pick for Marcus Smart, if Ainge were indeed interested.

Personally, I think it's a little too much to hope for. But considering the extreme youth of their roster, Thibs' total impatience with rebuilding / losing, and his love of hard headed defenders, I see it as a legit question....
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Re: Would MIN accept Marcus Smart for the #5 pick?
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2016, 11:25:53 AM »

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I'm not sure I do that trade, but you know what? Not a bad idea. He'd be a great fit.

Re: Would MIN accept Marcus Smart for the #5 pick?
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2016, 11:32:45 AM »

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Yes they would. And they would laugh at you for days after completing the deal. Perhaps it would make up for the Garnett trade..

Re: Would MIN accept Marcus Smart for the #5 pick?
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2016, 11:46:47 AM »

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There is 0% chance Boston would do this... why turn a guy who they put in so much time into, is an elite defender, and has improved his shooting?

Re: Would MIN accept Marcus Smart for the #5 pick?
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2016, 11:55:07 AM »

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There is 0% chance Boston would do this... why turn a guy who they put in so much time into, is an elite defender, and has improved his shooting?

I take it you voted "yes".

The only part of this that's both true and relevant is that Smart is an elite defender. The Cs have other truly elite wing defenders, not to mention recent draft picks at Smart's position.

So, there are a variety of reasons they might. Two examples:

1) they find a nice deal for a veteran guard that includes the 3 pick but doesn't include Smart, but see a draft prospect they believe has high upside at 5.

2) they can't find a good deal for 3, take another guard with that pick because they deem him BPA, and still see a draft prospect they believe has higher upside than Smart at 5.

I don't buy the Cs wouldn't trade Smart because he's played there for 2 years. And I'd be absolutely shocked is Ainge and Thibs don't talk deal in some way shape or form before the draft.
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Re: Would MIN accept Marcus Smart for the #5 pick?
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2016, 11:56:11 AM »

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There is 0% chance Boston would do this... why turn a guy who they put in so much time into, is an elite defender, and has improved his shooting?
Improved his shooting?

Re: Would MIN accept Marcus Smart for the #5 pick?
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2016, 12:39:34 PM »

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There is 0% chance Boston would do this... why turn a guy who they put in so much time into, is an elite defender, and has improved his shooting?

I take it you voted "yes".

The only part of this that's both true and relevant is that Smart is an elite defender. The Cs have other truly elite wing defenders, not to mention recent draft picks at Smart's position.

So, there are a variety of reasons they might. Two examples:

1) they find a nice deal for a veteran guard that includes the 3 pick but doesn't include Smart, but see a draft prospect they believe has high upside at 5.

2) they can't find a good deal for 3, take another guard with that pick because they deem him BPA, and still see a draft prospect they believe has higher upside than Smart at 5.

I don't buy the Cs wouldn't trade Smart because he's played there for 2 years. And I'd be absolutely shocked is Ainge and Thibs don't talk deal in some way shape or form before the draft.
Smart is a guy loved by Team USA, lauded for his impact on defence, out of this world competitive, young and already a more solid pro than most draft picks turn into. It would be illogical to trade him for a draft pick of a guy who might pan out better. I can see the logic behind using him in a deal for a star but not to trade up in a draft that is apparently short in superstar talent

Re: Would MIN accept Marcus Smart for the #5 pick?
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2016, 12:59:19 PM »

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I would if I were Wolves. Let the other guys be scorers. Smart brings great defense and clutch plays. But every team wants their shot at a superstar gamble so no they don't do the trade.

Re: Would MIN accept Marcus Smart for the #5 pick?
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2016, 01:37:57 PM »

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I doubt it.  Why would they trade the #5 pick this year for the #6 pick from 2 years ago when he hasn't exactly set the world on fire?  I like Smart just fine and I think he'll end up being a valuable 2 way guard, but he's demonstrated enough limitations that I doubt Minnesota would find him more appealing than a guy like Murray or Dunn who is still an unknown   I'm not sure either of those guys will be better than Smart, but I think a rebuilding Minnesota would prefer to take that chance than accept a known, but limited, quantity.

Re: Would MIN accept Marcus Smart for the #5 pick?
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2016, 01:43:45 PM »

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I doubt it.  Why would they trade the #5 pick this year for the #6 pick from 2 years ago when he hasn't exactly set the world on fire?  I like Smart just fine and I think he'll end up being a valuable 2 way guard, but he's demonstrated enough limitations that I doubt Minnesota would find him more appealing than a guy like Murray or Dunn who is still an unknown   I'm not sure either of those guys will be better than Smart, but I think a rebuilding Minnesota would prefer to take that chance than accept a known, but limited, quantity.
The logic would be that first Thibs is a very defensive coach, so hed love to add a Marcus Smart, second, the primary reason teams value these high picks is that they have star potential. However with KAT and Wiggins already on the roster. They dont have the same need for a star as many teams in the top 10 with either 0 or 1 star potential guy. Dunn might be gone by then and hes not a great shooter. I think it would come down to weather they want to add floor spacing or defense (Hield/Murray or Smart).

Re: Would MIN accept Marcus Smart for the #5 pick?
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2016, 01:43:53 PM »

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There is 0% chance Boston would do this... why turn a guy who they put in so much time into, is an elite defender, and has improved his shooting?
scratches  head::::::improved his shooting::::::????
are you talking about  his winning a bunch of prizes at Six Flags playing the balloon game
or his ability on the PS4 on Battlefield online?
Because, last I heard, Marcus Smart almost missed more jumpers than the number of chicken nuggets digested by Jared Sullinger.

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Re: Would MIN accept Marcus Smart for the #5 pick?
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2016, 01:52:53 PM »

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I won' allow it ... :D

Re: Would MIN accept Marcus Smart for the #5 pick?
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2016, 01:55:50 PM »

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Need to attach the Number 3 to happen.

Re: Would MIN accept Marcus Smart for the #5 pick?
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2016, 01:58:38 PM »

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Need to attach the Number 3 to happen.

#3 plus Smart for #5? huh?
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Re: Would MIN accept Marcus Smart for the #5 pick?
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2016, 02:02:13 PM »

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There is 0% chance Boston would do this... why turn a guy who they put in so much time into, is an elite defender, and has improved his shooting?

I take it you voted "yes".

The only part of this that's both true and relevant is that Smart is an elite defender. The Cs have other truly elite wing defenders, not to mention recent draft picks at Smart's position.

So, there are a variety of reasons they might. Two examples:

1) they find a nice deal for a veteran guard that includes the 3 pick but doesn't include Smart, but see a draft prospect they believe has high upside at 5.

2) they can't find a good deal for 3, take another guard with that pick because they deem him BPA, and still see a draft prospect they believe has higher upside than Smart at 5.

I don't buy the Cs wouldn't trade Smart because he's played there for 2 years. And I'd be absolutely shocked is Ainge and Thibs don't talk deal in some way shape or form before the draft.
Smart is a guy loved by Team USA, lauded for his impact on defence, out of this world competitive, young and already a more solid pro than most draft picks turn into. It would be illogical to trade him for a draft pick of a guy who might pan out better. I can see the logic behind using him in a deal for a star but not to trade up in a draft that is apparently short in superstar talent

Thinnest post I've read lately. You're a fan. That's great. But just because you don't want him traded doesn't make it illogical to do so if the Cs feel a better player is available.

Regardless, the poll question is regarding how the Wolves may value Marcus. Clearly you see him as worthy of such a deal, so appreciate the feedback.
Mike

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