Danny's in his wheelhouse on this one

[Boris Badenov]

So as we continue to see rumors of the Celts' liking different players (Bender, Murray, Dunn, Chriss etc.), it becomes clear how well having the #3 pick plays to Danny's greatest strength which is trading.

The situation is perfect because there are many guys who could be #3 on different teams' draft boards, and each of them may really highly value one guy over the others. But since different teams will have different first choices in that group, the trade possibilities are rampant.

For example, he could move #3 to PHO for #4, giving them their first guy, and then move #4 for #8 to SAC, giving *them* their first guy while picking up other assets all along the way. If he turned #3 into #8 (Hield?), #13 (Chriss?) and Willy Cauley-Stein what would people think?

If he succeeds in generating a bidding war for that #3 pick and moves it , it's entirely possible that in a few years we will be talking about this as another one of the Great Ainge Fleecings.

Reason for optimism in my book.

[Granath]

It's nice to have options.

[spikelovetheCelts]

So as we continue to see rumors of the Celts' liking different players (Bender, Murray, Dunn, Chriss etc.), it becomes clear how well having the #3 pick plays to Danny's greatest strength which is trading.

The situation is perfect because there are many guys who could be #3 on different teams' draft boards, and each of them may really highly value one guy over the others. But since different teams will have different first choices in that group, the trade possibilities are rampant.

For example, he could move #3 to PHO for #4, giving them their first guy, and then move #4 for #8 to SAC, giving *them* their first guy while picking up other assets all along the way. If he turned #3 into #8 (Hield?), #13 (Chriss?) and Willy Cauley-Stein what would people think?

If he succeeds in generating a bidding war for that #3 pick and moves it , it's entirely possible that in a few years we will be talking about this as another one of the Great Ainge Fleecings.

Reason for optimism in my book.

I think this draft is deeper than people think. If he can move down to 5-6 and up with 16 and 23. It would be cool to get 3 picks around 10. DA will show his skill I am sure. His brain may also be about to explode, too.

[trickybilly]

Trading Down Options Cheatsheet (realistic only):

Phoenix - Alex Len
Minny - Gorgui, LaVine
Pels - Jrue
Denver - Nurkic, Faried
Sac - Ben Mac, Cousins
Raps - nothing
Bucks - Parker, Monroe
Orlando - Heaps
Utah - Hayward, Hood, Exum
Bulls - Jimmy

None of that really appeals...

[mef730]

So as we continue to see rumors of the Celts' liking different players (Bender, Murray, Dunn, Chriss etc.), it becomes clear how well having the #3 pick plays to Danny's greatest strength which is trading.

The situation is perfect because there are many guys who could be #3 on different teams' draft boards, and each of them may really highly value one guy over the others. But since different teams will have different first choices in that group, the trade possibilities are rampant.

For example, he could move #3 to PHO for #4, giving them their first guy, and then move #4 for #8 to SAC, giving *them* their first guy while picking up other assets all along the way. If he turned #3 into #8 (Hield?), #13 (Chriss?) and Willy Cauley-Stein what would people think?

If he succeeds in generating a bidding war for that #3 pick and moves it , it's entirely possible that in a few years we will be talking about this as another one of the Great Ainge Fleecings.

Reason for optimism in my book.

I've thought that the pattern is #3=#4 and #13, then #4 and #13 = somewhere in the 8-10 range. We don't get 8 if Hield is still around, but SAC needs help everywhere.

If we trade down from #3/4 to 8, what else is SAC giving us?

Mike

[Boris Badenov]

So as we continue to see rumors of the Celts' liking different players (Bender, Murray, Dunn, Chriss etc.), it becomes clear how well having the #3 pick plays to Danny's greatest strength which is trading.

The situation is perfect because there are many guys who could be #3 on different teams' draft boards, and each of them may really highly value one guy over the others. But since different teams will have different first choices in that group, the trade possibilities are rampant.

For example, he could move #3 to PHO for #4, giving them their first guy, and then move #4 for #8 to SAC, giving *them* their first guy while picking up other assets all along the way. If he turned #3 into #8 (Hield?), #13 (Chriss?) and Willy Cauley-Stein what would people think?

If he succeeds in generating a bidding war for that #3 pick and moves it , it's entirely possible that in a few years we will be talking about this as another one of the Great Ainge Fleecings.

Reason for optimism in my book.

I've thought that the pattern is #3=#4 and #13, then #4 and #13 = somewhere in the 8-10 range. We don't get 8 if Hield is still around, but SAC needs help everywhere.

If we trade down from #3/4 to 8, what else is SAC giving us?

Mike

My guess is that they'd offer McLemore and we'd want WCS, maybe?

[Big333223]

It's so strange to me that people want to trade down and pick up more mediocre-to-decent assetts. The Celtics already have a tone of those. They need to consolodate some of those assetts (and players) into something (or someone) of higher value.

[D Dub]

Trading Down Options Cheatsheet (realistic only):

Phoenix - Alex Len
Minny - Gorgui, LaVine
Pels - Jrue
Denver - Nurkic, Faried
Sac - Ben Mac, Cousins
Raps - nothing
Bucks - Parker, Monroe
Orlando - Heaps
Utah - Hayward, Hood, Exum
Bulls - Jimmy

None of that really appeals...

I would trade #3 for Hayward + #13 in a heartbeat. 

[Surferdad]

It's so strange to me that people want to trade down and pick up more mediocre-to-decent assetts. The Celtics already have a tone of those. They need to consolodate some of those assetts (and players) into something (or someone) of higher value.

Yup.  I feel like the "collecting assets" phase is more-or-less over (understanding that you are always looking for more when you can get it).  To trade away the opportunity for the #3 pick would be a mistake, IMO.

[arctic 3.0]

Trading Down Options Cheatsheet (realistic only):

Phoenix - Alex Len
Minny - Gorgui, LaVine
Pels - Jrue
Denver - Nurkic, Faried
Sac - Ben Mac, Cousins
Raps - nothing
Bucks - Parker, Monroe
Orlando - Heaps
Utah - Hayward, Hood, Exum
Bulls - Jimmy

None of that really appeals...

I would trade #3 for Hayward + #13 in a heartbeat.

Yup.
Then pick up Skal or Davis at 13

[Boris Badenov]

It's so strange to me that people want to trade down and pick up more mediocre-to-decent assetts. The Celtics already have a tone of those. They need to consolodate some of those assetts (and players) into something (or someone) of higher value.

That's not it. There's a difference between what you'd like to do in an ideal world, and what the market tells you is the best move.

And of course this need not be the last move we make. If it puts us in better position to get a superstar later, it's the right call.

[spikelovetheCelts]

It's so strange to me that people want to trade down and pick up more mediocre-to-decent assetts. The Celtics already have a tone of those. They need to consolodate some of those assetts (and players) into something (or someone) of higher value.

8 picks to two or three. Trade a guard for Noel or Okafor. We are moving in the right direction.
You add 3 of 3 through 10 this year and that is a great nucleus to grow from. IMO

[mef730]

It's so strange to me that people want to trade down and pick up more mediocre-to-decent assetts. The Celtics already have a tone of those. They need to consolodate some of those assetts (and players) into something (or someone) of higher value.

8 picks to two or three. Trade a guard for Noel or Okafor. We are moving in the right direction.
You add 3 of 3 through 10 this year and that is a great nucleus to grow from. IMO

I would happily make that trade, but who would we trade to? I can see us picking up a second pick by the method I mentioned above (3 for 4&13, 13&16 for Top 10) but I have trouble getting any more. As BB mentioned, it takes two to tango.

Mike

[myselfonline]

Trading Down Options Cheatsheet (realistic only):

Phoenix - Alex Len
Minny - Gorgui, LaVine
Pels - Jrue
Denver - Nurkic, Faried
Sac - Ben Mac, Cousins
Raps - nothing
Bucks - Parker, Monroe
Orlando - Heaps
Utah - Hayward, Hood, Exum
Bulls - Jimmy

None of that really appeals...

Let's say the Bucks for whatever reason wakes up and decides Giannis is going to be their future at the 3, and decide to move Bari for a guard, would you guys do Bari + #10 for Smart + #3?

[nickagneta]

So as we continue to see rumors of the Celts' liking different players (Bender, Murray, Dunn, Chriss etc.), it becomes clear how well having the #3 pick plays to Danny's greatest strength which is trading.

The situation is perfect because there are many guys who could be #3 on different teams' draft boards, and each of them may really highly value one guy over the others. But since different teams will have different first choices in that group, the trade possibilities are rampant.

For example, he could move #3 to PHO for #4, giving them their first guy, and then move #4 for #8 to SAC, giving *them* their first guy while picking up other assets all along the way. If he turned #3 into #8 (Hield?), #13 (Chriss?) and Willy Cauley-Stein what would people think?

If he succeeds in generating a bidding war for that #3 pick and moves it , it's entirely possible that in a few years we will be talking about this as another one of the Great Ainge Fleecings.

Reason for optimism in my book.

I think adding 4 more prospects to a team with 5 prospects only one of which could be labeled elite(Smart, and that's debatable) is a major step backwards for this team. Consolidation of assets is what needs to happen. This team should be through collecting assets. Its time to cash them in or maximize their value by trading up not down. My guess is James Young is a goner but Smart, MMickey, Rozier and Hunter will still be on the team next year. That leaves, IMHO, room for one or two more rookies and that's it, if we are going to try to be a playoff team. No trading down. Trade for proven talent or trade up and consolidate.