Stevens: #3 Trade must be 'Impactful'

[ahonui06]

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2016/06/2016_nba_draft_rumors_boston_c_5.html

"If you do end up trading (the pick), it has to be pretty impactful," Stevens said Thursday during an appearance on 98.5 The Sports Hub's Zolak & Bertrand show. "There are a lot of good players that are available in this draft, in my opinion. I'm just scratching the surface of learning about each of them at a deep, deep level, but there are some good guys. And I'm excited about having the third pick. So if we were to move it, then I would say it would have to be something pretty special to move it for."

PC talk but makes sense. I believe Boston will keep the pick unless they can swing a good deal for Boogie.

[bello_man09]

I hope we keep the Pick...

[BitterJim]

Okafor or Butler seems most likely, I don't think a deal for DMC is even an option

[PaulP34]

Its not an option. Boogie, Butler, Paul George are all staying put and are not open to trade. That leaves the Celtics with the #3 pick in the draft. I'm hoping we draft Murray, Heild or Brown at #3. Probably Bender but it would be sweet to trade the #3 to the Suns for #4 and #13. Draft Jaylen Brown at #4 and Timothe Luwawu at 13 and Thon Maker at #16. Package three 2nds and #23 and move back up to 20 and grab Prince. That would be an awesome draft to me.

[mmmmm]

Fairly straightforward reasoning that makes sense.

The #3 is a pick that projects with a fairly high chance at a 'future all star' caliber player.   Danny isn't going to give it up for someone who either is already that level of player or has a very good chance of being that.

[TheFlex]

Breaking news: Cs won't deal first top 3 selection in over a decade for a less-than-stellar return.

This is nothing, in my opinion. If anything I see that statement as evidence that they are trying to trade the 3rd pick.

[ChillyWilly]

This is nothing, in my opinion. If anything I see that statement as evidence that they are trying to trade the 3rd pick.

When I read the statement that's the first thing that popped in my mind as well.

I'm sure Danny would love to trade it for an All-Star but it take two to tango. The great thing about Ainge is he will work the phones and be aggressive so all options open. I like the fact Danny has a ton of options on how this team will get to that next level.

[Bobshot]

I would be happy if they got Okafor, Bender or Maker for the #3. I'm not fussy. I've looked at the reels of some of the others, and I don't see much else that can help them. Brown looks great to the basket, but he can't shoot outside. The other guards just complicate their crowded guard picture, unless they trade. Zizic isn't an NBA 5.

What they need is an upgrade at the 4-5, and all three of those guys I mentioned first would upgrade them up front. Maker, I think, has the most upside.

[JohnBoy65]

I would be happy if they got Okafor, Bender or Maker for the #3. I'm not fussy. I've looked at the reels of some of the others, and I don't see much else that can help them. Brown looks great to the basket, but he can't shoot outside. The other guards just complicate their crowded guard picture, unless they trade. Zizic isn't an NBA 5.

What they need is an upgrade at the 4-5, and all three of those guys I mentioned first would upgrade them up front. Maker, I think, has the most upside.

Thon Maker at 3? Thank god you're not making decisions.

[PickNRoll]

Fairly straightforward reasoning that makes sense.

The #3 is a pick that projects with a fairly high chance at a 'future all star' caliber player.   Danny isn't going to give it up for someone who either is already that level of player or has a very good chance of being that.

Right.  Roughly speaking, 60% chance of picking a future star.  Giving up that 60% for somebody who is already at that level is a no-brainer.  Trading it for an older player with a chance of becoming a star makes less sense.  A guy like Okafor, though, is a near mortal lock to be an all-star at some point.  Another no-brainer.

http://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm

[mmmmm]

Fairly straightforward reasoning that makes sense.

The #3 is a pick that projects with a fairly high chance at a 'future all star' caliber player.   Danny isn't going to give it up for someone who either is already that level of player or has a very good chance of being that.

Right.  Roughly speaking, 60% chance of picking a future star.  Giving up that 60% for somebody who is already at that level is a no-brainer.  Trading it for an older player with a chance of becoming a star makes less sense.  A guy like Okafor, though, is a near mortal lock to be an all-star at some point.  Another no-brainer.

http://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm

My only hedge against Okafor is that I think he's harder to build a team around than, say, a Bender-style big.  I'm an old fart and I really and truly love a great post-up game.  But Okafor doesn't offer a lot more right now than that.  Which means you have to put a particular type team around him.

If anything, Bender would make a nice front-court complement to to Okafor.  Maybe we can trade something else for Jahlil and still get Dragan?   They want a guard - we have some spare guards, don't we?

[EvilEmpire]

I have made this statement before and I will make it again Thon Maker is not going in the 1st. When and if he is drafted, he will be a draft and stash player like Colton Iverson or a D League player for the next 2 years.

[PickNRoll]

Fairly straightforward reasoning that makes sense.

The #3 is a pick that projects with a fairly high chance at a 'future all star' caliber player.   Danny isn't going to give it up for someone who either is already that level of player or has a very good chance of being that.

Right.  Roughly speaking, 60% chance of picking a future star.  Giving up that 60% for somebody who is already at that level is a no-brainer.  Trading it for an older player with a chance of becoming a star makes less sense.  A guy like Okafor, though, is a near mortal lock to be an all-star at some point.  Another no-brainer.

http://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm

My only hedge against Okafor is that I think he's harder to build a team around than, say, a Bender-style big.  I'm an old fart and I really and truly love a great post-up game.  But Okafor doesn't offer a lot more right now than that.  Which means you have to put a particular type team around him.

If anything, Bender would make a nice front-court complement to to Okafor.  Maybe we can trade something else for Jahlil and still get Dragan?   They want a guard - we have some spare guards, don't we?

Well, I'm the wrong guy for that idea. I think Bender is destined for a career in China if things go well. He's not in my top 20 in this draft.

I acknowledge that Okafor has a few things to work on, but he at least has potential to be a truly elite post scorer.

[PickNRoll]

This more or less summarizes my take on bender:  http://youtu.be/iX8Y0naw8ks

[td450]

The case against Okafor is strong. He could become a volume scorer, but at the expense of team spacing and defense. He has no outside game at all, and will always be a below average defender.

Everyone bemoans the lack of a star, but we are two athletic, defensive minded bigs away from having the best defense in the league, all with players just entering their prime. We can achieve that without any luck at all. I wouldn't sell that out just to get Okafor's offense.