Marquese Chriss

[Ilikesports17]

He seems like much more of a Jeff Green Derrick Williams type than a Kawhi Leonard

[alldaboston]

I will get this shirt made if we draft and keep Chriss:

Well, we also got Isaiah as a result of some pieces from the trade.

[indeedproceed]

I will get this shirt made if we draft and keep Chriss:

Well, we also got Isaiah as a result of some pieces from the trade.

Well we also got the real shot at 2 more lottery picks (hopefully, screw you Nets!), plus other stuff, so I know. But it does feel like a lot of the anticipation from the trade hinged on this draft, and I'm hoping for better than Chriss.

[Evantime34]

I will get this shirt made if we draft and keep Chriss:

Well, we also got Isaiah as a result of some pieces from the trade.

Well we also got the real shot at 2 more lottery picks (hopefully, screw you Nets!), plus other stuff, so I know. But it does feel like a lot of the anticipation from the trade hinged on this draft, and I'm hoping for better than Chriss.

If we draft Chriss I'll order one of those shirts from you.

[Celtics18]

TP to ssspence for starting this thread back when Chriss was a late lottery prospect.  Now he's top three?

Well done, sir.

[ssspence]

I keep taking **** here and elsewhere

Go to YouTube and watch each of his NIT games.

I think we identified the problem.

If you actually think that's the problem, maybe you've identified one for yourself.

[ssspence]

I will get this shirt made if we draft and keep Chriss:

HaHAAA! Love it.

He's definitely a risk. But I'd also like to avoid having a tee shirt that's this, but replaces "Marquese Chriss" with "a one dimensional role player with strong leadership skills from the #3 pick in the NBA draft." And it sure feels like there's a lot of those bouncing around the discussion with this pick.

[loco_91]

Don't know anything about this guys but [dang] if the OP wasn't right.  Shot up the draft board and is now slated at #3 on draft express.

holy cow!

I dont see it!

You cant be that terrible at rebounding and play the 4.

he would have to become a SF in my mind.

Still dont like him at 3.

This is completely premature. He's 18. He's played very limited basketball. He has yet to be coached by a Brad Stevens.

You don't draft a player like Chriss based on his existing skills. You draft him based on essential tools, and coach him. In Chriss' case, that's insane athleticism combined with solid shooting potential, which may allow him to blossom above and beyond a number of the role players who will be taken in the top 10.

I understand that.

However, he is historically bad at rebounding. DX said the only rebounder in their data base who was worse was Thad Young who played the 3 in college.

If Chriss is the best prospect at 3 than I think that says more about the quality of the draft than it does Chriss.

My initial (and probably a bit lazy) comp would be Aaron Gordon. Great athletes, who are really raw. Now Gordon, coming out of college wasnt the shooter Chriss was, but had a pretty big edge in terms of defense and rebounding. I also dont remember reading any character/ work ethic concerns on Gordon.

Now with all that being said, at 3, if unable to trade we are in a nice position to take a project/risk pick. Chriss seems to fit that mold. So I suppose you could justify it. Again, I hope this jump is more about Chriss rising up boards than it is the supposed second tier not being that good.

If Aaron Gordon was a 35% 3p shooter, he'd be the #3 prospect no problem. The thing is that Gordon was an elite defender-- second best in that entire draft besides Smart-- while Chriss is reportedly a poor defender. There is more to defense than athleticism.

[Ilikesports17]

Don't know anything about this guys but [dang] if the OP wasn't right.  Shot up the draft board and is now slated at #3 on draft express.

holy cow!

I dont see it!

You cant be that terrible at rebounding and play the 4.

he would have to become a SF in my mind.

Still dont like him at 3.

This is completely premature. He's 18. He's played very limited basketball. He has yet to be coached by a Brad Stevens.

You don't draft a player like Chriss based on his existing skills. You draft him based on essential tools, and coach him. In Chriss' case, that's insane athleticism combined with solid shooting potential, which may allow him to blossom above and beyond a number of the role players who will be taken in the top 10.

I understand that.

However, he is historically bad at rebounding. DX said the only rebounder in their data base who was worse was Thad Young who played the 3 in college.

If Chriss is the best prospect at 3 than I think that says more about the quality of the draft than it does Chriss.

My initial (and probably a bit lazy) comp would be Aaron Gordon. Great athletes, who are really raw. Now Gordon, coming out of college wasnt the shooter Chriss was, but had a pretty big edge in terms of defense and rebounding. I also dont remember reading any character/ work ethic concerns on Gordon.

Now with all that being said, at 3, if unable to trade we are in a nice position to take a project/risk pick. Chriss seems to fit that mold. So I suppose you could justify it. Again, I hope this jump is more about Chriss rising up boards than it is the supposed second tier not being that good.

If Aaron Gordon was a 35% 3p shooter, he'd be the #3 prospect no problem. The thing is that Gordon was an elite defender-- second best in that entire draft besides Smart-- while Chriss is reportedly a poor defender. There is more to defense than athleticism.

Yeah my new comp is something of a Jeff green Derrick Williams mix

Also Aaron Gordon did shoot 36% from 3 in college on 1.2 attempts per game.

Chris shot 35 on 1.8.

[ssspence]

Don't know anything about this guys but [dang] if the OP wasn't right.  Shot up the draft board and is now slated at #3 on draft express.

holy cow!

I dont see it!

You cant be that terrible at rebounding and play the 4.

he would have to become a SF in my mind.

Still dont like him at 3.

This is completely premature. He's 18. He's played very limited basketball. He has yet to be coached by a Brad Stevens.

You don't draft a player like Chriss based on his existing skills. You draft him based on essential tools, and coach him. In Chriss' case, that's insane athleticism combined with solid shooting potential, which may allow him to blossom above and beyond a number of the role players who will be taken in the top 10.

I understand that.

However, he is historically bad at rebounding. DX said the only rebounder in their data base who was worse was Thad Young who played the 3 in college.

If Chriss is the best prospect at 3 than I think that says more about the quality of the draft than it does Chriss.

My initial (and probably a bit lazy) comp would be Aaron Gordon. Great athletes, who are really raw. Now Gordon, coming out of college wasnt the shooter Chriss was, but had a pretty big edge in terms of defense and rebounding. I also dont remember reading any character/ work ethic concerns on Gordon.

Now with all that being said, at 3, if unable to trade we are in a nice position to take a project/risk pick. Chriss seems to fit that mold. So I suppose you could justify it. Again, I hope this jump is more about Chriss rising up boards than it is the supposed second tier not being that good.

Yeah I see that in their review. That combined with his tendency to foul scare me, as well. I do think he shows promise as an offensive rebounder, which is evidence more of effort than rebounding fundamentals.

Interestingly, Chad Ford calls Chriss a "good rebounder" in his Big Board profile. Might wanna change that.

I've stated a few times I'd like to see the Cs trade back a couple slots to get him. I proposed a 3 team deal (CHI / MIN / BOS) where the Cs pick up Jimmy Butler, and move back to #5 and pick him. I can also see direct deals with Minny and NOP where the Cs could grab #5 or #6 for Marcus Smart plus later pick(s), draft Kris Dunn at #3, then draft Chriss.

I, too, feel #3 could be a reach. But Chriss or not, I continue to believe in taking a high risk / reward player instead of a 'safe' player, of which we have too many already.

[CoachBo]

I will get this shirt made if we draft and keep Chriss:

It'll look nice next to my Bender shirt.

[Smitty77]

This from Chad Ford:

Ford via ESPN:

    Marquese Chriss, PF, Fr., Washington

    Hield may be the best shooter in the draft and Dunn may be the best defender. Chriss’ claim to fame: He is an absolute freaky athlete for a player his size.

    During one of his drills, he almost knocked himself out, barely missing hitting his forehead on the rim during a powerful dunk. There aren’t a lot of 6-foot-10 forwards with his combination of explosive leaping ability and agility. He moves as well as any big I’ve seen since Andre Drummond.

    But Chriss isn’t just an athlete. He also comes with a sweet stroke that should allow him to be a stretch-4 in the league. And his leaping ability and aggressiveness on defense make him a terrific option as a rim protector.

    He needs to get stronger, become a better rebounder and stay out of foul trouble, but he brings tools to the floor that make his ceiling as high as that of anyone in this draft not named Ben Simmons or Brandon Ingram. The fact that he’s one of the youngest players in the draft also helps his cause.

    While we have generally pegged him in the No. 7-10 range, teams as high as the Suns at No. 4 are considering him. They need a stretch floor, and the other options (Dragan Bender, Henry Ellenson) don’t have the athletic upside that Chriss does.

    There is a risk factor with Chriss, though. He’s far from a finished prospect and scouts have wrung their hands a bit about whether he’s mature enough for the NBA. His body language at Washington could have been better. For Chriss, it’s not a question they should worry about.

    “I think the teams liked me,” Chriss said about his interviews at the draft combine. “They were trying to figure out who I am.

    “As a teammate off the court, I’m kind of the opposite of how I play. When I’m on the court I’m kind of mean and mad, but I’m never really mad. I feel like I smile a lot. … I don’t really have a lot friends when I play. My friends are my teammates really. On the court I like to be focused and keep my head straight.”

https://pistonpowered.com/2016/05/28/chad-ford-on-marquese-chriss/

Smitty77

[GetLucky]

I keep taking **** here and elsewhere

Go to YouTube and watch each of his NIT games.

I think we identified the problem.

Ben Simmons and his team didn't qualify for the tournament, either.

[alldaboston]

I will get this shirt made if we draft and keep Chriss:

Well, we also got Isaiah as a result of some pieces from the trade.

Well we also got the real shot at 2 more lottery picks (hopefully, screw you Nets!), plus other stuff, so I know. But it does feel like a lot of the anticipation from the trade hinged on this draft, and I'm hoping for better than Chriss.

That's true. Right now this is the best piece from the trade. So I agree with the idea presented on the shirt. Hopefully we won't have to buy that shirt though. Maybe the lakers or sixers will take him instead.

[Snakehead]

This from Chad Ford:

Ford via ESPN:

I like how he brings up Drummond.  I am feeling a similar way in that he is just too great of an athlete to pass up.  In the NBA, that can so often determine a player's ceiling.  The funny thing about it though is Ford was not a Drummond advocate.

I get that he is a gamble but man.  I can see him becoming special and it being like Drummond again where some teams got gun shy on a guy who seems to be just a special type of big man that doesn't come around often.