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Marcus is a keeper
« on: May 26, 2016, 04:12:57 PM »

Offline walker834

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Do not trade Marcus for any reason because there isn't one that makes sense.  Agree?  Disagree?
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2016, 04:24:15 PM »

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Agree.

Any trade that does NOT include him, I agree with.  The guy is special.  I can't wait for him to hit his apex.
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Re: Marcus is a keeper
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2016, 04:25:05 PM »

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Quote from: walker834 on May 26, 2016, 04:12:57 PM
Do not trade Marcus for any reason because there isn't one that makes sense.  Agree?  Disagree?

Disagree.

No one currently on the roster should be deemed untouchable if the right deal presents.

Follow up: it's not up to me to determine what "the right deal" is.
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2016, 04:27:22 PM »

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I'd trade Thomas before I trade Smart.  That's how much potential I see in this guy. 
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2016, 04:28:31 PM »

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Great defender but his offensive game is suspect. He has value so if the right trade came along for a player who is established I'd pull the trigger. But it would have to be like Marcus and next years Brooklyn swap for Butler. I wouldn't do it any other way
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2016, 04:30:12 PM »

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Quote from: Clench123 on May 26, 2016, 04:27:22 PM
I'd trade Thomas before I trade Smart.  That's how much potential I see in this guy.

Completely disagree.

Thomas has the heart of a Celtic.

Smart has to improve offensively, and calm down before I ever begin to view him as more than Tony Allen Part Deux.

I would certainly include him in the right deal, and that includes moving the 3 if necessary.
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2016, 04:31:08 PM »

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This guy has taken over games (playoffs games even) when he wasn't supposed to.  When he isn't efficient offensively, his defense and steals makes a huge difference.  To lose all of that to a team that didn't see him develop into his prime would be tragedy.  DO NOT TRADE MARCUS SMART.
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2016, 04:38:04 PM »

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Quote from: CoachBo on May 26, 2016, 04:30:12 PM
Quote from: Clench123 on May 26, 2016, 04:27:22 PM
I'd trade Thomas before I trade Smart.  That's how much potential I see in this guy.

Completely disagree.

Thomas has the heart of a Celtic.

Smart has to improve offensively, and calm down before I ever begin to view him as more than Tony Allen Part Deux.

I would certainly include him in the right deal, and that includes moving the 3 if necessary.

I guess you don't value defense as I do.  I'm not taking anything away from Thomas but we've seen ALL of what IT can do.  He's a glorified 6th man at best.  Come playoffs he's very EASY to shut down.  Thomas was more efficient in his ROOKIE year than Avery Bradley was in his.  Let that sink in  for a second...
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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2016, 04:42:59 PM »

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Knowing Danny though he won't trade Smart. But like I said, I don't see him as an offensive threat. So if a Butler came into the picture I'd pull that trigger. I just don't see it in Marcus. Great defense but if we could get more offense I'd do it.
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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2016, 04:47:41 PM »

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If possible, I'd trade Smart for Noel and draft Dunn at #3.
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2016, 04:57:51 PM »

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Quote from: walker834 on May 26, 2016, 04:12:57 PM
Do not trade Marcus for any reason because there isn't one that makes sense.  Agree?  Disagree?
I don't want to trade Marcus because I view him higher than the market does, so any deal that goes through with Marcus will probably be viewed negatively by me.

For example I wouldn't trade Marcus for Okafor straight up (I know a lot of people disagree).
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2016, 05:07:38 PM »

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I got TOO many Marcus Tee's etc for Danny to be trading him soon.  I got a lot invested in his number. :)

He IS the player I would be if I was in the NBA .  So I also value him to high .....but I would not accept any deal that doesn't bring back a top young big .....Davis , Drummmd , Cousins or like.
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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2016, 05:08:28 PM »

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IT a glorified 6th man?  Did you not see him score 42 points and get the game-sealing steal against the Hawks in the playoffs??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAZcpdU50KI

I really feel we have a great group of guards in IT, Smart, and AB.  Smart had his playoff moments as well, literally taking over in the 4th quarter and OT of game 4 against the Hawks.  Not to mention he managed to slow down Millsap a freaking powerforward who was killing us before Smart was assigned to guard him!

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/04/24/nba-playoffs-celtics-hawks-game-4-marcus-smart-comeback-video

And Terry Rozier has shown some good potential as well, just not on the level of IT or Smart.

What the Celtics lack though is an alternative go-to scorer to relieve the pressure for IT.

Quote from: Clench123 on May 26, 2016, 04:38:04 PM
Quote from: CoachBo on May 26, 2016, 04:30:12 PM
Quote from: Clench123 on May 26, 2016, 04:27:22 PM
I'd trade Thomas before I trade Smart.  That's how much potential I see in this guy.

Completely disagree.

Thomas has the heart of a Celtic.

Smart has to improve offensively, and calm down before I ever begin to view him as more than Tony Allen Part Deux.

I would certainly include him in the right deal, and that includes moving the 3 if necessary.

I guess you don't value defense as I do.  I'm not taking anything away from Thomas but we've seen ALL of what IT can do.  He's a glorified 6th man at best.  Come playoffs he's very EASY to shut down.  Thomas was more efficient in his ROOKIE year than Avery Bradley was in his.  Let that sink in  for a second...
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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2016, 05:11:07 PM »

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I loved KG

Now Smart s game


I think I'd be a HUge Maker fan .....he has the same motor.
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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2016, 06:38:09 PM »

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Think long and hard, before you trade such a warrior. If he ever develops his offensive game to average 14-15 a game...watch out.
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