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More rebuilding?

Yes
35 (58.3%)
No
16 (26.7%)
I'm on the fence
8 (13.3%)
I do not trust Ainge
1 (1.7%)

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Voting closed: September 02, 2016, 06:56:25 PM

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Would you be ok with 3-5 more years of rebuilding?
« on: May 25, 2016, 06:56:25 PM »

Offline CelticSooner

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The reason I ask this is because listening to Ainge recently he seems to have changed his tune a bit. From what I gather unless someone wants to trade for #3 Ainge will take a young unpolished player like Bender. Honestly as a fan another 3 more years doesn't suit me. That doesn't even take in account if he'll even be any good. When the Brooklyn trade went down I gave Ainge in my head 5 years to get the C's back into contender status. The water is murky and I can't see that happening in 2 years.

I'd say I trust Ainge more as a trader than I do at drafting and developing a contender. Definitely not saying he has a done a bad job but the C's current status still feels in limbo. This is a huge summer for the C's. Just drafting and running a similar team back like the past two years feels like a complete failure if your goal is to take leaps every season. I'd like to see some shakeup and/or cashing in on some of these "assets". Maybe I'm in the minority in this thinking tho  ???

Re: Would you be ok with 3-5 more years of rebuilding?
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2016, 07:12:23 PM »

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Gonna have to be OK with it. Danny is not in a position to blow off fireworks like we originally thought. There's not gonna be any big free agent signings this summer. Danny may have to overpay took get back the same team he had last year. This is what I feared. We pretty much hit the worse case scenario. No ones gonna give up their stars in trades. I think the NBA is catching up with Danny to be honest. I think GM's around the league are playing hard ball with him. Its gonna be tough to try making trades for the Butlers an Cousins of the world without giving up them future Brooklyn picks. Danny doesn't wanna part with them but teams want them for their stars. So Danny is realizing that those picks are worth more to just keep them and make the picks. Next years and 2018's Brooklyn picks just might be lottery picks again. But instead of building championship teams using high picks for assets, GM's are not gonna give Danny the trades, they are going to make him draft his teams cause they know he is a great trader but not as great a drafter. Memphis 19 could be a top 10 pick so we got 4 years to acquire top talent through the draft. Hope Danny knows how to draft talent cause he's not getting the trades..
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Re: Would you be ok with 3-5 more years of rebuilding?
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2016, 07:30:18 PM »

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We have way too many guys entering their prime or already in it. We are in a unique position to build through the draft and make trades to acquire additional talent. I am afraid that we may not land a big fish in free agency, but luckily we have the assets for trades and the cap space to absorb players without having to send out valuable contracts to match (like AB/IT/Crowder).

The thing is, Ainge almost has to make something happen this offseason or next. We are a competitive team now and have the ammunition to be really competitive should Ainge choose to go that direction. If Simmons/Ingram are not available at our pick, I fully expect to see it shipped off to the highest seller.

Re: Would you be ok with 3-5 more years of rebuilding?
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2016, 07:36:41 PM »

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I like that he drafted Bradely!  I'd be okay with subtle moves.   

We have won more games every year. Players are developing.  And in the next two years we might land a big FA.   I like our team. 
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Re: Would you be ok with 3-5 more years of rebuilding?
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2016, 07:39:21 PM »

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Sure, why not?  This year was a blast.  Probably one of my top 6-7 most watchable seasons in 30 years.  We knew what we were.  The guys played their guts out, won a bunch (and lost a few) of games they probably shouldn't have and in the end, we were exactly what we thought.   A first round playoff team.  I think we're a 2nd round team if we draw MIA or CHA.

That's fine.  Stay the course.  Let's see what Mickey and Rozier can do next year.


Re: Would you be ok with 3-5 more years of rebuilding?
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2016, 07:46:29 PM »

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I'm ok with it, as long as we see hope for a future payoff. I don't want to continually tread water either. Give us a team of exciting young players with upside, and keep looking for top players to add to the core, and I'll be patient.

Re: Would you be ok with 3-5 more years of rebuilding?
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2016, 07:47:42 PM »

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I feel like you're using the term "rebuilding" rather loosely here. The rebuilding going on right now is what most teams call their normal existence (or better!).

If rebuilding means winning 50 games or more while continuing to build towards being a contender, I don't see how anyone could fault Ainge.

Plus, what's the alternative, blow it all up?

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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2016, 07:50:47 PM »

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I feel like you're using the term "rebuilding" rather loosely here. The rebuilding going on right now is what most teams call their normal existence (or better!).

If rebuilding means winning 50 games or more while continuing to build towards being a contender, I don't see how anyone could fault Ainge.

Plus, what's the alternative, blow it all up?

The C's aren't just another franchise tho. That gold ball as my avatar is there for reason. That's what sets the C's apart from almost every other NBA franchise. I'd never be content with a ceiling of the ECF like Toronto is currently experiencing.

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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2016, 07:57:35 PM »

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Well if you mean rebuilding to become a contender than I'd say that is what we are doing no matter what and here is why:

1. Lebron is in his prime on a stacked team, it will be very hard to beat him for the next few years.

2. The free agent class is weak and everyone and their mother's have money to burn.

3. We have great picks from Brooklyn over that time and building through the draft is the most realistic way for us to get a star at this point.

4. Even if we trade for a star we don't have enough talent to surround him with so it will take time to get the next one.

While saying all this we can still be a playoff team that is fun to watch while adding pieces to get to the next level.

Re: Would you be ok with 3-5 more years of rebuilding?
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2016, 08:00:29 PM »

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I feel like you're using the term "rebuilding" rather loosely here. The rebuilding going on right now is what most teams call their normal existence (or better!).

If rebuilding means winning 50 games or more while continuing to build towards being a contender, I don't see how anyone could fault Ainge.

Plus, what's the alternative, blow it all up?

The C's aren't just another franchise tho. That gold ball as my avatar is there for reason. That's what sets the C's apart from almost every other NBA franchise. I'd never be content with a ceiling of the ECF like Toronto is currently experiencing.

This isn't our cieling, though. We've been steadily improving and, even without any big moves, it looks like we'll continue to do so

No GM could go from a teardown to a a championship in less than 5 years without stupid amounts of luck, and it seems like we're one player away from the ECF, which would put us just an injury short of the Finals

Considering that we'll still have good picks coming up, that's a really good spot to be in, whether you're the Celtics, the Lakers, or the Hornets
I'm bitter.

Re: Would you be ok with 3-5 more years of rebuilding?
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2016, 08:48:16 PM »

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rebuilding in the nba is bullcrap.  you need two good players.  it can happen over a summer.  right now danny apparently can't trade for them so he has to draft them.  he has failed at that the last 8 years.

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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2016, 08:52:31 PM »

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I just don't understand how Celtics always get the raw deal. The one time we get the #1 pick the kid goes n overdoses. Then we get the worse record in the league and we pick #6. We finally get lucky and acquire the #3 pick and we get a 4 year project. Lol and we are the one franchise who has a clover as the team logo. Man I just hope whoever we pick turns out to be great.

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« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2016, 08:55:47 PM »

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rebuilding in the nba is bullcrap.  you need two good players.  it can happen over a summer.   now danny apparently can't trade for them so he has to draft them.  he has failed at that the last 8 years.

That's because he keeps drafting point guards with his top picks. He needs to draft a Forward

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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2016, 08:57:11 PM »

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I feel like you're using the term "rebuilding" rather loosely here. The rebuilding going on right now is what most teams call their normal existence (or better!).

If rebuilding means winning 50 games or more while continuing to build towards being a contender, I don't see how anyone could fault Ainge.

Plus, what's the alternative, blow it all up?

The C's aren't just another franchise tho. That gold ball as my avatar is there for reason. That's what sets the C's apart from almost every other NBA franchise. I'd never be content with a ceiling of the ECF like Toronto is currently experiencing.

This isn't our cieling, though. We've been steadily improving and, even without any big moves, it looks like we'll continue to do so

No GM could go from a teardown to a a championship in less than 5 years without stupid amounts of luck, and it seems like we're one player away from the ECF, which would put us just an injury short of the Finals

Considering that we'll still have good picks coming up, that's a really good spot to be in, whether you're the Celtics, the Lakers, or the Hornets

This team as currently constructed is hovering around it's ceiling of 50 wins IMO. It'd be nice to actually have some guys that can score besides IT and Bradley.

rebuilding in the nba is bullcrap.  you need two good players.  it can happen over a summer.  right now danny apparently can't trade for them so he has to draft them.  he has failed at that the last 8 years.

A superstar driven league that takes too much luck to take that final leap. NFL has it right where you can win a title overnight with some good management.

Re: Would you be ok with 3-5 more years of rebuilding?
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2016, 09:03:39 PM »

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I'm fine with Ainge picking a young prospect who takes 3- 5 years to develop. In the meantime I expect the C's to field a competitive team. In general I associate rebuilding with losing and I think our team will push to win 50 games next year, regardless of how much the third pick contributes.
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