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No Celtic workouts for Dunn
« on: May 20, 2016, 10:46:40 AM »

Offline Green-Bananas

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Kris Dunn’s decision to not workout for the Celtics and Suns could be the first domino to fall.  Obviously Dunn wants to land on a team where he can start or get serious mins. What teams want him to slip past the C’s & Suns, but they can’t guarantee it? What are they willing to give to move up?

What about Philly? Would they consider reshuffling the draft order if Ainge gave up #3 & #23 and something else? Or maybe Philly would want to swap one of Okafor, Noel or other pieces for the #3 pick?

Anyway, I think Dunn is driving up the value of pick #3.

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I think there's a good chance Okafor will be in play for the #3 pick if the Celts are willing to throw in some additional pieces e.g. another first round pick and a player with some proven ability, e.g. Bradley.

Dunn could make a lot of sense for the Sixers if Simmons is their guy.  His turnovers in college suggest he's not an ideal choice to be the main guy running an offense, but playing off a guy like Simmons as the secondary creator could be a good role for him.
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Re: No Celtic workouts for Dunn
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2016, 11:16:39 AM »

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I think there's a good chance Okafor will be in play for the #3 pick if the Celts are willing to throw in some additional pieces e.g. another first round pick and a player with some proven ability, e.g. Bradley.

Dunn could make a lot of sense for the Sixers if Simmons is their guy.  His turnovers in college suggest he's not an ideal choice to be the main guy running an offense, but playing off a guy like Simmons as the secondary creator could be a good role for him.

They can have all the 2nd round picks.
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I'm wondering how this affects a possible Bulls trade. I'm a firm believer that we could get Butler if we wanted to, because it's no secret that Chicago covets Dunn and is looking for another point guard to build around after Rose is gone next year.

But if Dunn refuses to workout or share information for us, would he do the same for Chicago who already has Rose there, albeit for just one more year?
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2016, 11:33:13 AM »

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I'm wondering how this affects a possible Bulls trade. I'm a firm believer that we could get Butler if we wanted to, because it's no secret that Chicago covets Dunn and is looking for another point guard to build around after Rose is gone next year.

But if Dunn refuses to workout or share information for us, would he do the same for Chicago who already has Rose there, albeit for just one more year?

Dunn will not work out for the Bulls until they've traded up.  The Celtics are unlikely to trade that pick until they're 100% sure that Simmons or Ingram don't fall.

That said, teams pick players all the time they haven't worked out if they have enough info to believe he'll be a worthwhile pick, so I'm not as concerned that's an issue.

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Dunn could make a lot of sense for the Sixers if Simmons is their guy.  His turnovers in college suggest he's not an ideal choice to be the main guy running an offense, but playing off a guy like Simmons as the secondary creator could be a good role for him.

Considering the roster logjam at Power Forward and Milwaukee's success with Giannis Antetokounmpo at Point Guard, shouldn't the Sixers run Simmons at the point?

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I think there's a good chance Okafor will be in play for the #3 pick if the Celts are willing to throw in some additional pieces e.g. another first round pick and a player with some proven ability, e.g. Bradley.

Dunn could make a lot of sense for the Sixers if Simmons is their guy.  His turnovers in college suggest he's not an ideal choice to be the main guy running an offense, but playing off a guy like Simmons as the secondary creator could be a good role for him.

Giving anything more than the 3rd overall pick for Okafor would be dumb.... I'm surprised you even considered Bradley. Why not give them our next year Brooklyn Pick as well while you're at it. They have no leverage. Okafor is coming off a torn meniscus, something that ended Andrew Bynum's career. I'd wait to see who would make a better offer. Do you really think the Lakers would offer up Ingram/Simmons for Okafor? I think not.

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I think there's a good chance Okafor will be in play for the #3 pick if the Celts are willing to throw in some additional pieces e.g. another first round pick and a player with some proven ability, e.g. Bradley.

Dunn could make a lot of sense for the Sixers if Simmons is their guy.  His turnovers in college suggest he's not an ideal choice to be the main guy running an offense, but playing off a guy like Simmons as the secondary creator could be a good role for him.
Do you really think Okafor is worh #3, a mid-lat first AND Avery Bradley?

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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2016, 11:24:36 AM »

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I think there's a good chance Okafor will be in play for the #3 pick if the Celts are willing to throw in some additional pieces e.g. another first round pick and a player with some proven ability, e.g. Bradley.

Dunn could make a lot of sense for the Sixers if Simmons is their guy.  His turnovers in college suggest he's not an ideal choice to be the main guy running an offense, but playing off a guy like Simmons as the secondary creator could be a good role for him.

Could the Sixers bypass Simmons and go straight to Dunn?  They have plenty of bigs so why take a young one that needs to develop.  Draft the PG and team him with Embid, Noel, Okafor, etc.

Just a crazy thought.
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I think there's a good chance Okafor will be in play for the #3 pick if the Celts are willing to throw in some additional pieces e.g. another first round pick and a player with some proven ability, e.g. Bradley.

Dunn could make a lot of sense for the Sixers if Simmons is their guy.  His turnovers in college suggest he's not an ideal choice to be the main guy running an offense, but playing off a guy like Simmons as the secondary creator could be a good role for him.

Good lord no!!

#3 for Okafor is iffy enough, but I can grow to accept it.  #3 and Bradley?!?! Not in a million years.  No way I would give up one of the 2 or 3 best shooters on this team (which is desperate for more shooters) in order to take back a guy who has no offence outside of 10 feet.

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I think there's a good chance Okafor will be in play for the #3 pick if the Celts are willing to throw in some additional pieces e.g. another first round pick and a player with some proven ability, e.g. Bradley.

Dunn could make a lot of sense for the Sixers if Simmons is their guy.  His turnovers in college suggest he's not an ideal choice to be the main guy running an offense, but playing off a guy like Simmons as the secondary creator could be a good role for him.
Do you really think Okafor is worh #3, a mid-lat first AND Avery Bradley?

No, I think if the sixers want Dunn, they give Okafor for the 3rd, no additional.
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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2016, 12:14:19 PM »

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I think there's a good chance Okafor will be in play for the #3 pick if the Celts are willing to throw in some additional pieces e.g. another first round pick and a player with some proven ability, e.g. Bradley.

Dunn could make a lot of sense for the Sixers if Simmons is their guy.  His turnovers in college suggest he's not an ideal choice to be the main guy running an offense, but playing off a guy like Simmons as the secondary creator could be a good role for him.
Do you really think Okafor is worh #3, a mid-lat first AND Avery Bradley?

No, I think if the sixers want Dunn, they give Okafor for the 3rd, no additional.

This. I could see them taking Brandon Ingram at #1 and then trading Okafor for #3.

I still can't decide on whether Okafor is "the man" or not, though.

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I think there's a good chance Okafor will be in play for the #3 pick if the Celts are willing to throw in some additional pieces e.g. another first round pick and a player with some proven ability, e.g. Bradley.

Dunn could make a lot of sense for the Sixers if Simmons is their guy.  His turnovers in college suggest he's not an ideal choice to be the main guy running an offense, but playing off a guy like Simmons as the secondary creator could be a good role for him.
Do you really think Okafor is worh #3, a mid-lat first AND Avery Bradley?

No, I think if the sixers want Dunn, they give Okafor for the 3rd, no additional.

This. I could see them taking Brandon Ingram at #1 and then trading Okafor for #3.

I still can't decide on whether Okafor is "the man" or not, though.

Mike
Yup, don't overpay for Okafor!  He's not "the man", just a really talented offensive player.  The #3 is already a lot to give up for him.

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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2016, 12:30:04 PM »

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If philly wants Dunn, the furthest I would ever go is 3 and 23/young for okafor. I'm definitely not giving an experienced player like Avery too.
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I think there's a good chance Okafor will be in play for the #3 pick if the Celts are willing to throw in some additional pieces e.g. another first round pick and a player with some proven ability, e.g. Bradley.

Dunn could make a lot of sense for the Sixers if Simmons is their guy.  His turnovers in college suggest he's not an ideal choice to be the main guy running an offense, but playing off a guy like Simmons as the secondary creator could be a good role for him.

Good lord no!!

#3 for Okafor is iffy enough, but I can grow to accept it.  #3 and Bradley?!?! Not in a million years.  No way I would give up one of the 2 or 3 best shooters on this team (which is desperate for more shooters) in order to take back a guy who has no offence outside of 10 feet.

Yah.  I'm not opposed to trading for Okafor, but I don't like that particular trade at all, for that very specific reason.

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