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Re: Drafting a star
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2016, 03:14:54 PM »

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How many stars has Ainge drafted?

I'll wait.

I know this is sarcasm, but Rondo counts, as polarizing as he is. Even moreso when you consider his playoff performances and his ability to facilitate the Cs team to a championship.

Rondo is hardly a star.
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Re: Drafting a star
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2016, 03:17:28 PM »

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How many stars has Ainge drafted?

I'll wait.

I know this is sarcasm, but Rondo counts, as polarizing as he is. Even moreso when you consider his playoff performances and his ability to facilitate the Cs team to a championship.

Although Ainge hasn't drafted any "superstars" he does have a solid draft history since he took over as Boston exec in 2003.

2004, Pick 15 - Al Jefferson (Solid rotation player)
2004, Pick 25 - Drafted Tony Allen (would consider him a defensive superstar)
2010, Pick 19 - Avery Bradley (Solid rotation player)
2012, Pick 21 - Jared Sullinger (Solid rotation player)

The only Top 10 pick Boston has had since 2008 was 2014 when the Celtics drafted Marcus Smart at 6 and he's developing very nicely; just needs work on his perimeter shooting.

He's a decent drafter. Not many home runs, but he misses far less than most GM's. Some other notable picks:

2006, Pick 21 - Rajon Rondo (multiple-time All Star)
2007, Pick 32 - Glen Davis (solid rotation piece on contender/championship winner)
2011, Pick 55 - Etwaun Moore (solid bench player, did a commendable job in Chi-Town this year)
2013, Pick 13 - Kelly Olynyk (Very solid rotation piece)
my favorite second round pick by ainge was powe. if his knees had held up he would have been a very nice rotation player.

Sorry. Not much of a list, considering the OP is theorizing - based on no available evidence - that Ainge can draft a champion. Not happening.

Maybe Bradley is a keeper out of that list. Beyond that, it's decidedly mediocre when you're relying on a point guard who can't shoot and won't play defense as your BPD - best player drafted.

Ainge is a decidedly mediocre drafter, and anyone who thinks he can draft a champion for the Celtics ...

Well, LOL.
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Re: Drafting a star
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2016, 03:20:10 PM »

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How many stars has Ainge drafted?

I'll wait.

I know this is sarcasm, but Rondo counts, as polarizing as he is. Even moreso when you consider his playoff performances and his ability to facilitate the Cs team to a championship.

Rondo is hardly a star.

Right now, yeah. Rondo until 2013 was definitely a star.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: Drafting a star
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2016, 03:27:54 PM »

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The Ainge is a bad drafter theory has been disproven so many times its ridiculous.

He's been in the lottery twice. He's had 0 top 3 picks and he's gotten all Jefferson and Rajon Rondo.

Re: Drafting a star
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2016, 03:38:03 PM »

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How many stars has Ainge drafted?

I'll wait.

 So who would you would  like to see Danny Ainge draft this year? Do you have a favorite player or players that should come to the Celtics given a choice?

Just curious  :)
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Re: Drafting a star
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2016, 03:48:11 PM »

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How many stars has Ainge drafted?

I'll wait.

I know this is sarcasm, but Rondo counts, as polarizing as he is. Even moreso when you consider his playoff performances and his ability to facilitate the Cs team to a championship.

Rondo is hardly a star.

I'd a four-time all star doesn't qualify as a star, what are your criteria?

And given those (clearly ridiculous) criteria, how many GMs have drafted stars? It seems to me like you won't couldn't anyone short of Lebron, Durant, or Tim Duncan
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Re: Drafting a star
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2016, 03:53:28 PM »

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How many stars has Ainge drafted?

I'll wait.

I know this is sarcasm, but Rondo counts, as polarizing as he is. Even moreso when you consider his playoff performances and his ability to facilitate the Cs team to a championship.

Although Ainge hasn't drafted any "superstars" he does have a solid draft history since he took over as Boston exec in 2003.

2004, Pick 15 - Al Jefferson (Solid rotation player)
2004, Pick 25 - Drafted Tony Allen (would consider him a defensive superstar)
2010, Pick 19 - Avery Bradley (Solid rotation player)
2012, Pick 21 - Jared Sullinger (Solid rotation player)

The only Top 10 pick Boston has had since 2008 was 2014 when the Celtics drafted Marcus Smart at 6 and he's developing very nicely; just needs work on his perimeter shooting.

He's a decent drafter. Not many home runs, but he misses far less than most GM's. Some other notable picks:

2006, Pick 21 - Rajon Rondo (multiple-time All Star)
2007, Pick 32 - Glen Davis (solid rotation piece on contender/championship winner)
2011, Pick 55 - Etwaun Moore (solid bench player, did a commendable job in Chi-Town this year)
2013, Pick 13 - Kelly Olynyk (Very solid rotation piece)
my favorite second round pick by ainge was powe. if his knees had held up he would have been a very nice rotation player.

Sorry. Not much of a list, considering the OP is theorizing - based on no available evidence - that Ainge can draft a champion. Not happening.

Maybe Bradley is a keeper out of that list. Beyond that, it's decidedly mediocre when you're relying on a point guard who can't shoot and won't play defense as your BPD - best player drafted.

Ainge is a decidedly mediocre drafter, and anyone who thinks he can draft a champion for the Celtics ...

Well, LOL.
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Re: Drafting a star
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2016, 03:57:40 PM »

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Ofcourse Ingram or Simons would be awsome but they say this draft is not deep after them two I disagree. I'm gonna list a few prospects that I think have a shot at being the next big think in the NBA.

Buddy Hield - G/F
Jamal Murray - G/F
Jayden Brown - SF
Timothe Luwawu - G/F
Skal Labissiere - F/C
Marquess Chris's - PF

These are some really good options. I'd be happy drafting either Buddy Hield/Jayden Brown/Jamal Murray with the Brooklyn pick and packaging our own with the Dallas pick to move up and draft Marquess Chriss/Timothe Luwawu/Skal Labissiere.

My ideal 1st round would be (Jamal Murray) and (Marquess Chriss) that would be a success IMO...

Re: Drafting a star
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2016, 04:26:12 PM »

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How many stars has Ainge drafted?

I'll wait.

 So who would you would  like to see Danny Ainge draft this year? Do you have a favorite player or players that should come to the Celtics given a choice?

Just curious  :)

No one knows. All he does is complain about Danny.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: Drafting a star
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2016, 04:40:39 PM »

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The OP seems to be saying that getting a star doesn't necessarilly mean drafting a top recruit. There are lots of examples of guys dafted 4-10 that wind up leading teams to championships. If the Celtics wind up slipping down the lottery but they draft intelligently, they could still come away with a Mike Conley (4th), Kevin Love (5th), Brandon Roy (6th), Curry (7th), or any number of other all stars taken farther down.

That said, I'd like the #1 pick.
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Re: Drafting a star
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2016, 04:52:32 PM »

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The Ainge is a bad drafter theory has been disproven so many times its ridiculous.

He's been in the lottery twice. He's had 0 top 3 picks and he's gotten all Jefferson and Rajon Rondo.

But irrational Ainge-haters aren't going to let facts get in the way of their anti-Ainge crusades.
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