Curry vs Lebron : MVP debate

[Donoghus]

This what the struggle always is with this award.  IMO, Lebron James is still the best player in the league, Lebron James is the most critical player to his teams success of any player in the league, and yet I have no problem with Stephen Curry winning the MVP this year.

So to recap, I think the best player is Lebron James, I think the player that is the most valuable to his team is Lebron James, and yet if I had a vote I would have voted Stephen Curry the MVP this season.

Pretty much the same boat. 

[dannyboy35]

I hate Lebron but think he should have won pretty much every year since he won his first. I felt the same with Jordan.

[dannyboy35]

This what the struggle always is with this award.  IMO, Lebron James is still the best player in the league, Lebron James is the most critical player to his teams success of any player in the league, and yet I have no problem with Stephen Curry winning the MVP this year.

So to recap, I think the best player is Lebron James, I think the player that is the most valuable to his team is Lebron James, and yet if I had a vote I would have voted Stephen Curry the MVP this season.

Pretty much the same boat.

If you guys believe this, then what basis do you pick Curry? Curious.

[slamtheking]

This what the struggle always is with this award.  IMO, Lebron James is still the best player in the league, Lebron James is the most critical player to his teams success of any player in the league, and yet I have no problem with Stephen Curry winning the MVP this year.

So to recap, I think the best player is Lebron James, I think the player that is the most valuable to his team is Lebron James, and yet if I had a vote I would have voted Stephen Curry the MVP this season.

Pretty much the same boat. 

agreed.  feel the same way.

[sofutomygaha]

This what the struggle always is with this award.  IMO, Lebron James is still the best player in the league, Lebron James is the most critical player to his teams success of any player in the league, and yet I have no problem with Stephen Curry winning the MVP this year.

So to recap, I think the best player is Lebron James, I think the player that is the most valuable to his team is Lebron James, and yet if I had a vote I would have voted Stephen Curry the MVP this season.

Pretty much the same boat.

If you guys believe this, then what basis do you pick Curry? Curious.

One other compelling angle is that unless Cleveland wins the title this year (and probably even if they do), this season is going to be remembered 100% for what Steph Curry did. Any storyline involving Lebron James will be a footnote. The MVP award is an acknowledgement of that.

[greece66]

curry wins this year's MVP by any definition.

[PhoSita]

There is no debate.

The idea that Curry is only better because of context is hogwash.

Curry is the most dominant player in the league right now.  He breaks the game.

Debating.

I amend, "No reasonable debate." 


If I'm building a team from scratch, Curry is my first pick.

If I had to win a game seven, home or road, and I can pick any guy in the league at his best to lead the way, Curry is my first pick.

If I had to choose the player in the league who has the greatest impact on how the game is played, I pick Curry.

If I had to choose which player is the icon of the league and how the game is played at all levels, even outside the NBA, I choose Curry.

And if I had to choose the best player on the best team I've ever seen, maybe the best team ever, I CHOOSE CURRY.


This is not complicated folks.

[Tr1boy]

This what the struggle always is with this award.  IMO, Lebron James is still the best player in the league, Lebron James is the most critical player to his teams success of any player in the league, and yet I have no problem with Stephen Curry winning the MVP this year.

So to recap, I think the best player is Lebron James, I think the player that is the most valuable to his team is Lebron James, and yet if I had a vote I would have voted Stephen Curry the MVP this season.

Pretty much the same boat.

If you guys believe this, then what basis do you pick Curry? Curious.

One other compelling angle is that unless Cleveland wins the title this year (and probably even if they do), this season is going to be remembered 100% for what Steph Curry did. Any storyline involving Lebron James will be a footnote. The MVP award is an acknowledgement of that.

Then shouldn't the award be given out once the playoffs are over?

What if Lebron wins playoffs MVP award?

Which one counts for more

[Donoghus]

This what the struggle always is with this award.  IMO, Lebron James is still the best player in the league, Lebron James is the most critical player to his teams success of any player in the league, and yet I have no problem with Stephen Curry winning the MVP this year.

So to recap, I think the best player is Lebron James, I think the player that is the most valuable to his team is Lebron James, and yet if I had a vote I would have voted Stephen Curry the MVP this season.

Pretty much the same boat.

If you guys believe this, then what basis do you pick Curry? Curious.

My gut more than anything, to be honest.

Curry played basketball at the highest level of anyone playing basketball this season.  He also played on the best team which helps matters and he was the most important part of said team.  I think Lebron means more to his team (due to supporting cast) and I would take LBJ over Curry with a gun to my head but I think Curry was the best player in the NBA this year. 

When people look back at the '15-16 season, Curry & the Warriors will be the first thing that comes to mind.  Either by putting together the greatest regular season ever (record wise) and winning their 2nd consecutive title or by putting together the greatest regular season ever &, shockingly, not winning the title. 

Either way, they're front & center.

If that makes sense.

[sofutomygaha]

There is no debate.

The idea that Curry is only better because of context is hogwash.

Curry is the most dominant player in the league right now.  He breaks the game.

Debating.

I amend, "No reasonable debate." 

I mean, there's like six guys on here making the opposition case and I don't think anyone is trolling.

[Tr1boy]

This what the struggle always is with this award.  IMO, Lebron James is still the best player in the league, Lebron James is the most critical player to his teams success of any player in the league, and yet I have no problem with Stephen Curry winning the MVP this year.

So to recap, I think the best player is Lebron James, I think the player that is the most valuable to his team is Lebron James, and yet if I had a vote I would have voted Stephen Curry the MVP this season.

Pretty much the same boat.

If you guys believe this, then what basis do you pick Curry? Curious.

My gut more than anything, to be honest.

Curry played basketball at the highest level of anyone playing basketball this season.  He also played on the best team which helps matters and he was the most important part of said team.  I think Lebron means more to his team (due to supporting cast) and I would take LBJ over Curry with a gun to my head but I think Curry was the best player in the NBA this year. 

When people look back at the '15-16 season, Curry & the Warriors will be the first thing that comes to mind.  Either by putting together the greatest regular season ever (record wise) and winning their 2nd consecutive title or by putting together the greatest regular season ever &, shockingly, not winning the title. 

Either way, they're front & center.

If that makes sense.

The "special " meaning of breaking the regular season win record will be washed away if the warriors can't win the championships

Alot to ask from one team but that's the way it is. 

[PhoSita]

If the award were about the guy who made the biggest difference in regular season win total depending on whether he played or not, the award probably goes to James Harden.  Do the Rockets win twenty games without him?

Harden is a talented player.  But that's obviously not what the MVP award is about.  It's about the most dangerous player in the game.  The guy who is the focal point whenever he steps on the floor.  The guy who defines the league.  The guy everybody knows you've gotta beat to win the title, and if somebody else beat him before you and you win, you got lucky.  Plain and simple.

This year, and last year, that's Curry.

Lebron is still a great player.  He's the King of the East.  Looks like he will be for a while.  But he is no longer capable of reaching the level of overwhelming destruction that Curry has reached on a regular basis this year.  We saw it in overtime last night.  Curry is playing in the ether right now, an Outer Realm known only by a select few, and then only for a limited time.  Bron was there once, but I'm not sure he ever did it like this.  Maybe only one other ever has.

[PhoSita]

There is no debate.

The idea that Curry is only better because of context is hogwash.

Curry is the most dominant player in the league right now.  He breaks the game.

Debating.

I amend, "No reasonable debate." 

I mean, there's like six guys on here making the opposition case and I don't think anyone is trolling.

Not trolling and presenting arguments based on flawed premises are not mutually exclusive.

[sofutomygaha]

If I'm building a team from scratch, Curry is my first pick.

If I had to win a game seven, home or road, and I can pick any guy in the league at his best to lead the way, Curry is my first pick.

I would select Lebron in both of these scenarios.

[sofutomygaha]

This what the struggle always is with this award.  IMO, Lebron James is still the best player in the league, Lebron James is the most critical player to his teams success of any player in the league, and yet I have no problem with Stephen Curry winning the MVP this year.

So to recap, I think the best player is Lebron James, I think the player that is the most valuable to his team is Lebron James, and yet if I had a vote I would have voted Stephen Curry the MVP this season.

Pretty much the same boat.

If you guys believe this, then what basis do you pick Curry? Curious.

My gut more than anything, to be honest.

Curry played basketball at the highest level of anyone playing basketball this season.  He also played on the best team which helps matters and he was the most important part of said team.  I think Lebron means more to his team (due to supporting cast) and I would take LBJ over Curry with a gun to my head but I think Curry was the best player in the NBA this year. 

When people look back at the '15-16 season, Curry & the Warriors will be the first thing that comes to mind.  Either by putting together the greatest regular season ever (record wise) and winning their 2nd consecutive title or by putting together the greatest regular season ever &, shockingly, not winning the title. 

Either way, they're front & center.

If that makes sense.

The "special " meaning of breaking the regular season win record will be washed away if the warriors can't win the championships

Alot to ask from one team but that's the way it is.

You may be right, but I'm not sure. Do people outside of New England still remember the 2007 Patriots as special?