How bad would falling to 6th be for the C's?

[Tr1boy]

I got big board top 10 as
1. Ingram
2. Simmons
3. Murray
4. Heild
5. Brown
6. Dunn
7. Bender/Lab
9. Ellenson/Poeltl

6-10 aren't bad players but trading value drops big time outside top 5.

If we fell to 6th and then Bender was there on draft night I think my head would burst from excitement. You'd have to draft him there.

I agree Bender at 6 would save the draft for me.

Skal for me.  Question , what makes bender more intriguing than skal?

[hpantazo]

I think for the Cs, this draft is the bizarro 2007 draft. While we were all hoping for Durant/Oden in 2007, and having our pick drop was a stomach punch, Ainge worked his alternatives plans and came up with gold. Now, 9 years, two finals trips, and one championship later, i think Ainge's primary plan is to trade the Nets pick, and he already has a deal in place for a player like Butler. I think this time, we win the lottery, get a top 2 pick, and it puts Ainge in a tough spot. Do you still trade the pick and sign another free agent superstar, or do you grab Simmons/Ingram and build with the young core?

I personally think there is not much difference between picks 3-6, so unless we land a top 2 pick, it doesn't matter.

[crimson_stallion]

I got big board top 10 as
1. Ingram
2. Simmons
3. Murray
4. Heild
5. Brown
6. Dunn
7. Bender/Lab
9. Ellenson/Poeltl

6-10 aren't bad players but trading value drops big time outside top 5.

If we fell to 6th and then Bender was there on draft night I think my head would burst from excitement. You'd have to draft him there.

I think id still pass and take Skal or Poetlyl instead.

I can't shake the feeling that Bender has more bust then Pamela Anderson.

[mef730]

I got big board top 10 as
1. Ingram
2. Simmons
3. Murray
4. Heild
5. Brown
6. Dunn
7. Bender/Lab
9. Ellenson/Poeltl

6-10 aren't bad players but trading value drops big time outside top 5.

If we fell to 6th and then Bender was there on draft night I think my head would burst from excitement. You'd have to draft him there.

I think id still pass and take Skal or Poetlyl instead.

I can't shake the feeling that Bender has more bust then Pamela Anderson.

I'll rate that "One TP." Clearly, you saw the opportunity and took advantage of it, but Pamela Anderson seems to be a dated example. Perhaps redo with somebody more contemporary?

Mike

[max215]

It'd be bad for the purposes of trading the pick.

As for drafting somebody, the second tier of the draft seems very fluid so it's hard to say what impact it'd have.

Yep, there's probably very little difference between having the 4th (maybe even 3rd) and 6th picks.

[sofutomygaha]

At the sixth position in this particular draft, there is going to be a very nice talent matched to our particular need. At least one of Jamal Murray, Buddy Heild, and Kris Dunn will be available. There are different trades between the three in terms of their respective athleticism, size, and style, but all three are very smart, versatile, and just generally fantastic offensive players with NBA game and room to grow. They can all shoot, too.

If we pick sixth, one of these three players will get Evan Turner's job and have a very bright future with the team.

I would hope, though, that when we come back around at #16 there is still a frontcourt prospect to get excited about. Labissiere, Davis, or Criss would all certainly be interesting there. Sabonis would be an asset and a fine pick there too.

[Who]

I don't think there is much difference between 3rd and 6th.

Top 2 is gold. The rest merely good.

[TheSundanceKid]

I got big board top 10 as
1. Ingram
2. Simmons
3. Murray
4. Heild
5. Brown
6. Dunn
7. Bender/Lab
9. Ellenson/Poeltl

6-10 aren't bad players but trading value drops big time outside top 5.

If we fell to 6th and then Bender was there on draft night I think my head would burst from excitement. You'd have to draft him there.

I agree Bender at 6 would save the draft for me.

Skal for me.  Question , what makes bender more intriguing than skal?

The first thing for me is BBIQ. That has been one of Skal's big weaknesses and something that he will need a few years to develop. Bender has been a professional since 15 and from what I have seen of him seems to make the intelligent play.

Both will have physical concerns when they enter the league but I think Bender will have the slightly easier time because of his defensive ability. I don't know much about his post defence, I assume it's weak. However on the perimeter he has a very good stance and nice lateral movement. While there is no chance he can stay with the quicker perimeter players in should stand him in good stead for our system which is switch heavy a lot of the time.

Finally mental drive. I know it's one of those things that's hard to quantify but Bender does have that want to improve himself, he's well grounded in his interviews. He's been quoted as saying that he has focused on improving his fundamentals rather than try to rush his physical development. He seems aware of the NBA regimes and how they will help him develop physically faster than he is capable of in Europe. To me that shows a maturity that is often lacked. Most players ride their physicality until they get caught out and then have to catch up with their technique, Bender is learning technique first. For me, Skal struggles with the mental side of the game. He's very passive and struggles to assert himself.

I'm not down on Skal though, with the DAL pick I would consider him, although I'm rather hoping we could move up for someone like Valentine, Chriss or Korkmaz