How bad would falling to 6th be for the C's?

[Tr1boy]

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/nba-draft-history-6th-pick

Never knew we could drop all the down to picking 6th

Chances are slim ?

[PhoSita]

It'd be bad for the purposes of trading the pick.

As for drafting somebody, the second tier of the draft seems very fluid so it's hard to say what impact it'd have.

[Tr1boy]

It'd be bad for the purposes of trading the pick.

As for drafting somebody, the second tier of the draft seems very fluid so it's hard to say what impact it'd have.

I agree

[TheSundanceKid]

It's only ever happened to one team, Milwaukee in 2007 I think. So fingers crossed! It is unlikely.

As the famous Sir Alex Ferguson once said, "It's getting tickly now, squeaky bum time I call it"

[Csfan1984]

I got big board top 10 as
1. Ingram
2. Simmons
3. Murray
4. Heild
5. Brown
6. Dunn
7. Bender/Lab
9. Ellenson/Poeltl

6-10 aren't bad players but trading value drops big time outside top 5.

[Evantime34]

I don't think it would be that big a deal.

A lot of people on here seem to like Buddy Hield/Jamal Murray if we pick at 3. If we end up picking at 6 I think one of them should be available.

[crimson_stallion]

Extremely unlikely, but if it did happen it wouldn't be the end of the world. 

It just means that we lose a lot of flexibility in terms of:
1) Trade options
2) Prospect selection

But I think there are still plenty of guys available at #6 who show a lot of promise.  Assuming Ingram, Simmons go top 2, that measn at #6 we are still guaranteed to have one of the following available:

* Murray
* Heild
* Brown
* Dunn
* Bender
* Poetlyl
* Labissiere
* Korkmaz

In all honesty I like every one of those guys for various reasons (some because I think they have star potential, others because I feel they should fill needs) so certainly not the end of the world. 

Plus we still have the another shot at it in 2017 and 2018 if the Nets remain sucky. 

I really feel like we can't lose with this Nets pick to be honest.  Even the worst case scenario is still as good as (or better then) any position we've been in over the past 10 or so years lol

[bdm860]

It's only ever happened to one team, Milwaukee in 2007 I think. So fingers crossed! It is unlikely.

As the famous Sir Alex Ferguson once said, "It's getting tickly now, squeaky bum time I call it"

It's hard for #3 to move back to #6, because that means all the top 3 picks went to teams outside of the top 3.  While it's likely somebody gets jumped, it's rarer that everyone in the top 3 gets jumped.  Moving back 3 spaces regardless sucks for your team.  Moving back 1 space sucks.

Some teams that moved back the max 3 spaces:


'09, Kings and Wizards finished 1st and 2nd worst, drafted 4th and 5th.

'07, Grizzlies, Celtcis, Bucks finished 1st, 2nd, and 3rd worst, ended up drafting 4th, 5th, and 6th.

'06 Blazers with the worst record drafted 4th, but amazingly ended up with the best player in the draft, LaMarcus Aldridge by trading #4 (Tyrus Thomas) and Viktor Khryapa.  Then traded just #7 (Randy Foye) for #6 to get Brandon Roy.  There were only 2 perennial All-Stars/All-NBA players in the top 20, and Portland got both of them despite the worst case scenario in the lottery and by giving up basically nothing to move up.  Kevin Pritchard should have won Exec of the Year!

[jpotter33]

I got big board top 10 as
1. Ingram
2. Simmons
3. Murray
4. Heild
5. Brown
6. Dunn
7. Bender/Lab
9. Ellenson/Poeltl

6-10 aren't bad players but trading value drops big time outside top 5.

I agree. I don't think there's much separation in the players 3-6. On the other hand, fair or not, I think a top-5 pick is MUCH more valuable/attractive to teams than the 6th pick with a similar jump in distance between a top-3 pick and a top-5 pick - again, fair or not.

So ultimately it wouldn't hurt us all that much if we actually used the pick, but it would substantially damage our flexibility with trading the pick.

[CoachBo]

I have no interest whatsoever in using the pick at 6.

It should be summarily traded if that happens.

[PhoSita]

I have no interest whatsoever in using the pick at 6.

It should be summarily traded if that happens.

But for what could we trade it, dear Liza?

[chambers]

It's a 4% chance of ending up 6th.

It obviously hurts our ability to trade down, and if we are drafting a player it won't matter too much-i think #3-#6 aren't that clear cut which means we could draft someone great at #6 who really impresses at workouts- or if someone falls etc..

But if we want to trade for someone like Butler, it really hurts becauae the perceived value of the #6 pick is far lower than a top 3 pick.
...This means that if we get pick #6 vs #3 we'd probably have to seriously think about having to include Smart or another future Brooklyn pick to get the deal done.
 The general Bulls public/audience/media pressure for GarPax (Bulls management's nickname) would be much less.of a burden explaining that you were trading away your best player and fan favorite for a top 3 pick and future superstar vs a prayer with the 6th pick WITH a season or 5 (or more) of complete pain to accompany.

That's what worries me more than anything. It's the difference between losing a really, really, really good player or really good future pick. I would be gutted if we had to Smart to Chicago.

We really need a top 3 pick to have the best chance at making a move at a star.

[TheSundanceKid]

I got big board top 10 as
1. Ingram
2. Simmons
3. Murray
4. Heild
5. Brown
6. Dunn
7. Bender/Lab
9. Ellenson/Poeltl

6-10 aren't bad players but trading value drops big time outside top 5.

If we fell to 6th and then Bender was there on draft night I think my head would burst from excitement. You'd have to draft him there.

[CFAN38]

After the top 3 are off the board 4-6 all seem like the same tier of prospects to me

Murray
Dunn
Brown
Poeltl
Chriss
Hield

Falling to 6th would just make the trade scenarios more limited as additional prospects are obviously off the board. If Dunn is available at 6 I would expect a team like 76ers or maybe Kings who need a PG (if Rondo isnt a long term King) will come calling.

Having suffered through the Duncan and Oden/Durant lotteries I will be like I did in 2014 convincing myself that the Cs have the 5th pick. 

[CFAN38]

I got big board top 10 as
1. Ingram
2. Simmons
3. Murray
4. Heild
5. Brown
6. Dunn
7. Bender/Lab
9. Ellenson/Poeltl

6-10 aren't bad players but trading value drops big time outside top 5.

If we fell to 6th and then Bender was there on draft night I think my head would burst from excitement. You'd have to draft him there.

I agree Bender at 6 would save the draft for me.