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Re: What would you do with the Hawks?
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2016, 09:01:36 PM »

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I'd let Horford walk and shop Milsap and Teague for the highest bidder. There are two teams in New York that'd overpay for a point guard right now, especially if both of them miss out on free agents. Milsap would also bring a good haul back to Atlanta. You could get a couple of good prospects and some extra picks to help you build around Schroeder and Hardaway.

There are indeed two teams in NY looking for a PG right now, but what do they have that's tradeable?  The Nets are out of picks for years, and have one young player of value in RHJ.  The Knicks aren't trading Porzingis, and while they do have future picks, they're otherwise light on prospects.

I think Teague is tradable, but I don't think NY is the target.  Sacramento has been known to do silly things, however.

Those were just two of the top examples that I had in my mind who would want Teague's services. The point is that they could get good value for their players.
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Re: What would you do with the Hawks?
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2016, 09:24:23 PM »

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Sell Milsap,CHEAP to the Celtics :D

Re: What would you do with the Hawks?
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2016, 09:26:56 PM »

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They will most likely keep treading water, it's what the Hawks do best.
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Re: What would you do with the Hawks?
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2016, 11:02:10 PM »

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I'd let Horford walk and shop Milsap and Teague for the highest bidder. There are two teams in New York that'd overpay for a point guard right now, especially if both of them miss out on free agents. Milsap would also bring a good haul back to Atlanta. You could get a couple of good prospects and some extra picks to help you build around Schroeder and Hardaway.

There are indeed two teams in NY looking for a PG right now, but what do they have that's tradeable?  The Nets are out of picks for years, and have one young player of value in RHJ.  The Knicks aren't trading Porzingis, and while they do have future picks, they're otherwise light on prospects.

I think Teague is tradable, but I don't think NY is the target.  Sacramento has been known to do silly things, however.

Those were just two of the top examples that I had in my mind who would want Teague's services. The point is that they could get good value for their players.

They could, that I agree.  I just don't think they can from those two teams.

As I said in a different thread, they have about $20 million in cap room including Horford's cap hold, with the only other major free agent being Bazemore.  It is not impossible to keep Horford and improve the team, as opposed to merely running back the same roster.  That seems to me a better chance at success than blowing things up and hoping the team is better five years from now.  I'd be interested to see if Teague, Hardaway, and two firsts could get them Butler, if Chicago decided to make major renovations and move both Butler and Rose.  They should be able to afford to keep Bazemore in such a scenario as well.

Re: What would you do with the Hawks?
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2016, 07:14:31 AM »

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I'd blow it up.  Let Horford walk, and then just shop everyone else.  If you aren't a real contender and don't have the makings of a real contender on your team then there is no point continuing down the current path.  The Hawks aren't a contender and don't have the young guys/future draft picks to have any real shot at getting there.  Now if they can land a guy like Durant in free agency, that changes things, but that is highly unlikely so they need to blow it up while their guys still have value.
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Re: What would you do with the Hawks?
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2016, 07:26:45 AM »

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(1) Keep Teague. Schroeder isn't good enough.
(2) Let Horford leave. Whiteside or Dwight as replacement.
(3) Keep Bazemore.
(4) Move Korver to bench. Acquire new SF. Target Batum.

I like these ideas.

It's time for Atlanta to try something different. The group they have has reached its ceiling (and it's not very high for that matter).

Keep Teague, Korver, Bazemore, Millsap, make some additions and see what you can do.

Re: What would you do with the Hawks?
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2016, 07:40:05 AM »

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I like the sign Horford and Howard idea. Trade Teague for a scoring wing (I like the mention of Rudy Gay here). Don't overpay Bazemore.

Schroder
Korver
Gay
Horford
Howard

With Milsap as a super 6th man is a great start.

Re: What would you do with the Hawks?
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2016, 08:08:27 AM »

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I like the sign Horford and Howard idea. Trade Teague for a scoring wing (I like the mention of Rudy Gay here). Don't overpay Bazemore.

Schroder
Korver
Gay
Horford
Howard

With Milsap as a super 6th man is a great start.
That team still loses to the Cavs and isn't young enough to have a window after the Cavs, so what is the point?
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Re: What would you do with the Hawks?
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2016, 08:33:41 AM »

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In Atlanta's case, I would probably do what Larbrd would do.

Re: What would you do with the Hawks?
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2016, 08:37:43 AM »

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Let Horford walk, re-sign Bazemore, trade Teague (Schroder's not amazing, but he's on a dirt cheap rookie contract for another year versus Teague's expiring contract that'll bring him into unrestricted free agency). Go into the season, see how the team starts off, and then look to buy/sell veteran pieces at the deadline.

I don't think the Hawks are in a position to completely rebuild at the moment. They're only just now cultivating a reliable fanbase, which is amazing given the tenuous position they were in following the Ferry scandal.

Re: What would you do with the Hawks?
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2016, 09:15:38 AM »

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I would keep the current core together. Try to add a wing to the current team.

With cap holds I think they will have about $14m in cap space. They should look to add a wing for around the $10m mark. Evan Turner might make some sense for them, added ball handling. Better still would be a scoring wing with 3 pt range. Someone like Chandler Parsons or Jeff Green? Or a SG like Gordon?

Once they find that wing then re-sign Horford to the max and pay Bazemore. They'd be well over the cap, possibly into luxury area but they have a lot of money coming off of the books in 2017.

I guess they could also make a draft day deal involving Teague for a wing and then target Conley in FA

Re: What would you do with the Hawks?
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2016, 09:31:45 AM »

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That team can't afford to sign Horford to a 5-year deal; it will totally impede their rebuild in a year or two when they are officially unable to compete with the rest of the east. By then, their roster will be mostly cleared of aging veterans and they will need a top pick. Trotting out Horford with rookies and young guys will be bad for all parties involved.

We are lucky Danny saw the light and was able to cash in on those Brooklyn/Memphis/Dallas picks. Most teams are a little more stubborn or just don't want to take the PR hit that is hitting the reset button. Atlanta has had a nice run, but it isn't getting any better for them. Schroder and Hardaway aren't leading them to the promise land.

Re: What would you do with the Hawks?
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2016, 09:59:33 AM »

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Bottom line for me, they aren't going to do better than Millsap and Horford.

If Horford goes elsewhere, do whatever it takes to replace Horford with one of the centers on the market.

Otherwise, be creative and bold with reshaping the rest of that team.  The current supporting group just doesn't have what it takes to play in a way that'll beat really good opponents.
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Re: What would you do with the Hawks?
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2016, 10:12:25 AM »

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That team can't afford to sign Horford to a 5-year deal; it will totally impede their rebuild in a year or two when they are officially unable to compete with the rest of the east. By then, their roster will be mostly cleared of aging veterans and they will need a top pick. Trotting out Horford with rookies and young guys will be bad for all parties involved.

We are lucky Danny saw the light and was able to cash in on those Brooklyn/Memphis/Dallas picks. Most teams are a little more stubborn or just don't want to take the PR hit that is hitting the reset button. Atlanta has had a nice run, but it isn't getting any better for them. Schroder and Hardaway aren't leading them to the promise land.

Why are they rebuilding in a year or two? Teague is still in his prime, Bazemore if re-signed would have an upward trajectory. They would need another wing with promise, apart from those I listed above they could see about Fournier.

It's not like they have nothing to trade either. They have some nice young guys in Schroeder and Haraway Jr as well as picks.

If in 2-3 years they do decide to rebuild then who knows where the cap will be, Horford's deal might not be as bad as it seems (although I say this being fully against paying him that money to be on the C's).

There's another thing to think about as well. Whereas every team ultimately wants to win a championship there are quite a few who rate consistent playoff appearances and therefore additional revenue highly. So perhaps Atlanta are like that. A team like the Lakers or Boston can afford to rebuild for a few years knowing that they will likely retain the fanbase and marketing revenues.

Re: What would you do with the Hawks?
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2016, 10:29:52 AM »

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They'll probably build around Schroeder. At times he's looked like a future star and they probably want to see how good he can become. He's only 22 (same age as Smart).

They'll let Teague walk and I wouldn't be surprised to see a team like the 76ers, Kings or New Orleans go after him.

Personally I would love Millsap here. Him replacing Sully in the starting line up would be a huge upgrade at a position of need- I'm just not sure what the Hawks would want in return...
Perhaps Avery Bradley+young prospect+future pick or two.
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