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Re: Sully
« Reply #60 on: April 25, 2016, 01:44:25 PM »

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Much rather have Bass back for like 3-5 mil next year. At least we know he will be in shape and have a consistent role on offense , while still being able to defend .

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« Reply #61 on: April 25, 2016, 01:49:16 PM »

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Much rather have Bass back for like 3-5 mil next year. At least we know he will be in shape and have a consistent role on offense , while still being able to defend .

I'd rather go after Ilyasova, Teletovic, Booker, Mozgov, Mahinmi, Hill, Miles Plumlee ....


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Re: Sully
« Reply #62 on: April 25, 2016, 01:49:49 PM »

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We still might give him the QO in the SUmmer, but I think it's also pretty possible we just let him walk.  He hasn't shown any improvement over the past few seasons.  He can give you some decent bench minutes.  He's an ok rebounder.  But he's weak offensively and not an elite defender. 

Re: Sully
« Reply #63 on: April 25, 2016, 01:58:28 PM »

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We still might give him the QO in the SUmmer, but I think it's also pretty possible we just let him walk.  He hasn't shown any improvement over the past few seasons.  He can give you some decent bench minutes.  He's an ok rebounder.  But he's weak offensively and not an elite defender.

The QO is a totally insignificant amount of money, there's no way Danny wouldn't offer it, and also no way Sully will take it

We'll offer him a decent amount of money over 3 or 4 years, and someone will offer him more so we'll let him go

There's no way Danny will even consider not offering him the QO, though
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Re: Sully
« Reply #64 on: April 25, 2016, 02:01:47 PM »

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As much as i want to join some of you guys on the "lets hate on sully bandwagon" , lets not forget he was picked in the 20's

He is fat but also very strong and difficult to move from a spot he has parked on.  And is a good team player.  Sadly his jump shot progress remains idle (and he needs badly to a have a long career in the league)

I don't expect he will get any offers of more than 10 million a season but who knows.

for example NYK are rumored to be highly interested in Turner.  Turner and Sullinger are good buddies (one key reason he joined the team in the 1st place).  As a condition of signing he may request the knicks to also sign his friend
 

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« Reply #65 on: April 25, 2016, 02:04:38 PM »

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As much as i want to join some of you guys on the "lets hate on sully bandwagon" , lets not forget he was picked in the 20's

He is fat but also very strong and difficult to move from a spot he has parked on.  And is a good team player.  Sadly his jump shot progress remains idle (and he needs badly to a have a long career in the league)

I don't expect he will get any offers of more than 10 million a season but who knows.

for example NYK are rumored to be highly interested in Turner.  Turner and Sullinger are good buddies (one key reason he joined the team in the 1st place).  As a condition of signing he may request the knicks to also sign his friend

Let them go to New York.
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Re: Sully
« Reply #66 on: April 25, 2016, 02:29:42 PM »

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I'm starting to like him less than I did BBD. I was so excited to draft him, too, but he's pretty much the opposite of as-advertised: lazy, low character, and not particularly smart. So much for the "coach's son" stereotype.
Satch Sullinger seems to be a lot more interested in excusing away his son's failures and piling on the team than making sure that Sullinger Jr. doesn't eat his way out of the NBA, so there's that.

I liked Davis a lot more than I've ever liked Sullinger.

BBD ......at least frequented the better eating establishments in Boston .   Sully seems like a Dunk n and POPA Johns type of guy

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« Reply #67 on: April 25, 2016, 02:38:30 PM »

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I'm starting to like him less than I did BBD. I was so excited to draft him, too, but he's pretty much the opposite of as-advertised: lazy, low character, and not particularly smart. So much for the "coach's son" stereotype.
Satch Sullinger seems to be a lot more interested in excusing away his son's failures and piling on the team than making sure that Sullinger Jr. doesn't eat his way out of the NBA, so there's that.

I liked Davis a lot more than I've ever liked Sullinger.
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« Reply #68 on: April 25, 2016, 02:43:05 PM »

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I'm starting to like him less than I did BBD. I was so excited to draft him, too, but he's pretty much the opposite of as-advertised: lazy, low character, and not particularly smart. So much for the "coach's son" stereotype.
Satch Sullinger seems to be a lot more interested in excusing away his son's failures and piling on the team than making sure that Sullinger Jr. doesn't eat his way out of the NBA, so there's that.

I liked Davis a lot more than I've ever liked Sullinger.
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« Reply #69 on: April 25, 2016, 03:01:54 PM »

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As much as i want to join some of you guys on the "lets hate on sully bandwagon" , lets not forget he was picked in the 20's

He is fat but also very strong and difficult to move from a spot he has parked on.  And is a good team player.  Sadly his jump shot progress remains idle (and he needs badly to a have a long career in the league)

I don't expect he will get any offers of more than 10 million a season but who knows.

for example NYK are rumored to be highly interested in Turner.  Turner and Sullinger are good buddies (one key reason he joined the team in the 1st place).  As a condition of signing he may request the knicks to also sign his friend

What exactly does being picked in the 20's have to do with anything at all?

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« Reply #70 on: April 25, 2016, 03:05:15 PM »

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I'm starting to like him less than I did BBD. I was so excited to draft him, too, but he's pretty much the opposite of as-advertised: lazy, low character, and not particularly smart. So much for the "coach's son" stereotype.

He's seemed like a rich man's BBD to me since very early in his career.  Similar games, Sully better in almost every way but that actually makes him more frustrating, because he's probably got the talent to put up All-Star caliber numbers if he got it together and applied himself.

What I liked so much about him when he first got to the Celts is that he was the anti-BBD.

He was a really strong, active rebounder.  He was a guy who could grab and board and go back up and finish quickly inside.  He had a little bit of a back to basket game but he didn't force it.  He was a good passer.  It was so refreshing to see a young big putting up double doubles, sometimes even grabbing double digit boards before the first half was even over.  He was a nice contrast to KG and Bass.

Since then his game has moved further and further from the basket as he's relied more and more on his jumper.  Much like Glen Davis.

I guess big guys who struggle with conditioning and get their shot blocked a lot have a tendency to fall in love with jumpers because they can't keep up the interior hustle that gets them minutes in the first place.

BBD started as primarily an interior player too - he took most of his shots at the rim in 07-08 and 09-10 (08-09 he was asked to fill KG's role so there were a lot more jumpers).  But it wasn't until his 4th season that he was permanently leaning heavily on the mid-range shot to the detriment of his interior game.

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« Reply #71 on: April 25, 2016, 03:44:26 PM »

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Much rather have Bass back for like 3-5 mil next year. At least we know he will be in shape and have a consistent role on offense , while still being able to defend .

I'd rather go after Ilyasova, Teletovic, Booker, Mozgov, Mahinmi, Hill, Miles Plumlee ....


He's replaceable.

Totally agreed.  He is not a consistently great rebounder, a skilled passer, and he doesn't bring much else.  Not a guy worth the trouble.  The players you bring up would be cheaper and maybe better fits.  Jerebko and Amir Johnson are both playing well and we have them for next year as long as we want them.
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« Reply #72 on: April 25, 2016, 03:52:16 PM »

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BBD started as primarily an interior player too - he took most of his shots at the rim in 07-08 and 09-10 (08-09 he was asked to fill KG's role so there were a lot more jumpers).  But it wasn't until his 4th season that he was permanently leaning heavily on the mid-range shot to the detriment of his interior game.

Right, which is why I'm wondering if maybe that's just how it goes for undersized, overweight big men.  Their game ages faster, and so like all big men their game tends to drift further away from the basket over time.
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Re: Sully
« Reply #73 on: April 25, 2016, 03:55:50 PM »

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BBD started as primarily an interior player too - he took most of his shots at the rim in 07-08 and 09-10 (08-09 he was asked to fill KG's role so there were a lot more jumpers).  But it wasn't until his 4th season that he was permanently leaning heavily on the mid-range shot to the detriment of his interior game.

Right, which is why I'm wondering if maybe that's just how it goes for undersized, overweight big men.  Their game ages faster, and so like all big men their game tends to drift further away from the basket over time.

Maybe. The guy I hoped he would become was Carlos Boozer. Sully never had his tenacity though, except around the buffet.


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« Reply #74 on: April 25, 2016, 06:05:38 PM »

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For this specific series it's a bad matchup for Sully.  Both Horford and Milsap aren't the beefy guys that Sully normally does ok against.   If we somehow make it to the next round he may play a much more integral role in the series.