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Re: Sully
« Reply #45 on: April 25, 2016, 06:52:11 AM »

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Sullinger was the worst Celtic on the court in Game 4 and he even managed to play worse than he had before. Whenever we were up by 5-7 points and Sullinger would check in, we would lose our lead in a span of 1 minute because he either forced bad shots or passes and was useless on defense.

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Re: Sully
« Reply #46 on: April 25, 2016, 06:57:12 AM »

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I'm starting to like him less than I did BBD. I was so excited to draft him, too, but he's pretty much the opposite of as-advertised: lazy, low character, and not particularly smart. So much for the "coach's son" stereotype.


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Re: Sully
« Reply #47 on: April 25, 2016, 07:24:20 AM »

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He simply is not a guy you want to build around.   For whatever reason, his weight or conditioning perhaps hidden injury he has broke down at the end of the his season.   He did last for almost the whole season, something he never did prior to this season as he missed about 30% of games of his previous seasons.   Might as well be missing now, with the way he is playing.

Could he turn it around, possibly, but not likely.  Thus far, his commitment to change has been poor, given it is a contract year too, how could Ainge trust him?

I have always thought his ceiling is low, and he came into the league the player we would get.   He was already skilled but had low potential for growth with limited athletic ability.   I did not foresee that he would completely sabotage himself with blatant disregard for conditioning, fitness and diet.    He can play in the NBA, he does not fit well with what we are doing here.   That being said for the last few years he was the best rebounder we had but he always had his faults.   I think him playing was out of necessity and less out of ability.

We could use another couple of bigs, and I hope Ainge gets some.

Re: Sully
« Reply #48 on: April 25, 2016, 08:13:19 AM »

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I have to admit I have become frustrated with Sully as of late. I've been a big advocate of his since we drafted him, and believed we had a player of real potential, despite the underlying worry of his back injury. It's become tiring the same old story of his conditioning, weight etc.. This preseason he really seemed to have a rocket up his backside in that he realised this could be his last shot at really proving himself. There's been moments of hot and cold this season, but the playoffs and game 4 in particular have been a nightmare. It's hard to workout whether it's just Millsap/Horford matchup problems are whether he is just extremely out of shape. I'd like to think if he was in shape, he could have stood his own against the likes of Millsap and Horford. What makes me look silly is that before game 1, I was telling friends that the key matchup this series was Sully v Millsap. I've had a few tweets reminding me of this too. Doh! I have a feeling we'll never really know just how good Sully could be.

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« Reply #49 on: April 25, 2016, 08:21:10 AM »

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Why is he so fat? I'd like to see Sully and Sandoval go at it in a blueberry pie eating contest.
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Re: Sully
« Reply #50 on: April 25, 2016, 08:34:00 AM »

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I'm starting to like him less than I did BBD. I was so excited to draft him, too, but he's pretty much the opposite of as-advertised: lazy, low character, and not particularly smart. So much for the "coach's son" stereotype.
Satch Sullinger seems to be a lot more interested in excusing away his son's failures and piling on the team than making sure that Sullinger Jr. doesn't eat his way out of the NBA, so there's that.

I liked Davis a lot more than I've ever liked Sullinger.
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« Reply #51 on: April 25, 2016, 08:55:28 AM »

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I'm not sure if this was said yet but if we get through Atlanta, Sully will do better against the Cavs.

The Hawks are a bad matchup for him. Sully did pretty good last year in the playoffs vs the Cavs. Don't write him off yet. He might have some big games left in him if we can get to the Cavs.

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« Reply #52 on: April 25, 2016, 09:14:55 AM »

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Let him walk (no way he's running) at the end of the year. We need roster spots anyway.

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« Reply #53 on: April 25, 2016, 09:40:40 AM »

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I loved Sully as a rook.

I'm pretty much done with him now.

Ready to move on.

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« Reply #54 on: April 25, 2016, 09:43:09 AM »

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Personally I think he will be out of the league in two years..

Re: Sully
« Reply #55 on: April 25, 2016, 10:12:29 AM »

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Personally, I'll be shocked if any team signs for decent money. He's fat, slow and disappeared in the play-offs when most needed.
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« Reply #56 on: April 25, 2016, 10:15:26 AM »

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I'm starting to like him less than I did BBD. I was so excited to draft him, too, but he's pretty much the opposite of as-advertised: lazy, low character, and not particularly smart. So much for the "coach's son" stereotype.

He's seemed like a rich man's BBD to me since very early in his career.  Similar games, Sully better in almost every way but that actually makes him more frustrating, because he's probably got the talent to put up All-Star caliber numbers if he got it together and applied himself.

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« Reply #57 on: April 25, 2016, 01:26:29 PM »

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I'm starting to like him less than I did BBD. I was so excited to draft him, too, but he's pretty much the opposite of as-advertised: lazy, low character, and not particularly smart. So much for the "coach's son" stereotype.

He's seemed like a rich man's BBD to me since very early in his career.  Similar games, Sully better in almost every way but that actually makes him more frustrating, because he's probably got the talent to put up All-Star caliber numbers if he got it together and applied himself.

What I liked so much about him when he first got to the Celts is that he was the anti-BBD.

He was a really strong, active rebounder.  He was a guy who could grab and board and go back up and finish quickly inside.  He had a little bit of a back to basket game but he didn't force it.  He was a good passer.  It was so refreshing to see a young big putting up double doubles, sometimes even grabbing double digit boards before the first half was even over.  He was a nice contrast to KG and Bass.

Since then his game has moved further and further from the basket as he's relied more and more on his jumper.  Much like Glen Davis.

I guess big guys who struggle with conditioning and get their shot blocked a lot have a tendency to fall in love with jumpers because they can't keep up the interior hustle that gets them minutes in the first place.
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Re: Sully
« Reply #58 on: April 25, 2016, 01:29:07 PM »

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Since then his game has moved further and further from the basket as he's relied more and more on his jumper.  Much like Glen Davis.
Except Davis could actually make them.
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Re: Sully
« Reply #59 on: April 25, 2016, 01:30:19 PM »

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I'm starting to like him less than I did BBD. I was so excited to draft him, too, but he's pretty much the opposite of as-advertised: lazy, low character, and not particularly smart. So much for the "coach's son" stereotype.

He's seemed like a rich man's BBD to me since very early in his career.  Similar games, Sully better in almost every way but that actually makes him more frustrating, because he's probably got the talent to put up All-Star caliber numbers if he got it together and applied himself.

BBD was better in the playoffs. For a big guy he was actually pretty fit and was light on his feet