Oh, Marcus...

[alldaboston]

He needs to stop. He was starting to get a bit more calls from the refs. Doubt that continues now.

[Neurotic Guy]

I think Smart is a better playmaker and Allen a better finisher.

Maybe but Tony is not much of a finisher and Marcus is only occasionally a play maker.

They both are spectacularly good defensive players and nearly brainless wannabe heroes on offense.

I thnk TA  started his career older than Marcus is now, and I recall cringing any time he had the ball in his hands  in his early years.  TA was ADHD on the court personified. Impulsive decisions - one leadong to his post-whistle acl injury.   Marcus makes much better decisions than young TA did.

[celtics2030]

Tony Allen had a moronic uncaring of young talent coach

Marcus has a much better coach and caring of his young developing talent

[fubar089]

Tony Allen could barely dribble the ball back in his Boston days.

[Who]

Looked like a foul to me. Might have gotten it if he didn't do all that play acting afterwards.

[LGC88]

Maybe he was concerned he would land badly (Korver push him a little while in the air).
Who knows... but to say he try to make big flop, I'm not sure.

As for his offense play, well, he's doing ok so far in the playoffs.
Still promising to me. I'm not throwing him under the bus offensively like Tony Allen.

[gift]

I think Tony Allen is a good way of looking at Smart, although their games are different.

Tony was quicker, more explosive, better finisher. Marcus better ball handler and more skilled overall. Definitely stronger and can guard more positions on defense. I think he has the potential to be a better shooter long term.

Both make dumb plays. At least I'll say I'm not scared out of my mind every time Smart touches the ball. I viewed Tony Allen's hands as the portal to the land of the turnover back in the day and just wanted it out of his hands as soon as possible. I'm not quite as nervous with Smart, though he does make some of the same dumb plays.

[GreenWarrior]

last night was the only time I couldn't stand Smart's game. there were a couple spots that really could've cost us the game. he needs to temper his antics a little bit.

[Rosco917]

https://streamable.com/sznn

I could watch this all day.

That has to be one of the dumbest flop I've ever seen. The day will come when Marcus will pay a physical toll on his body from throwing himself around like that. If I we're a ref, Marcus would get little consideration when he's actually really charged into. He looked like he stepped on a land mine.

[green2k16]

flop was terrible. but we was huge for us last night. really really huge. the block on horford- oh man. and without his shooting and passing, we dont win last night.

[tarheelsxxiii]

The things people do when they're void of talent and without shame...

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Yep, that was a flop worthy of being fined.

I love his energy, his desire to play defense and his competitiveness. But this is something he needs to stop. He's too good to resort in dirty tactics like this.

[kozlodoev]

There was also that possession in the fourth quarter when he got under someone (Teague or Schroder), flopped, and was rightfully called for a foul. This could have cost us the game at that point.

The guy just isn't too smart. It's rather infuriating at times.

[hwangjini_1]

Tony Allen had a moronic uncaring of young talent coach

Marcus has a much better coach and caring of his young developing talent

yes, but tony allen was a quinessential bonehead who could jump out of the building and would immediately follow that up by making a profoundly stupid pass or decision. on defense, though they are different in details, tony allen and smart are overall similar - dogged, determined, good. though i think smart is stronger and impacts the game in more defensive dimensions (like the free throw at the end of the cleveland game. allen would not have done that.)

where they differ is #1 brains. smart is smart, by and large. tony allen was not and made a ton more poor decisions. smart uses his smarts more than allen ever did since allen had so few of them. god, how i would sit and be stunned by some of his "decisions" and lack of awareness on the court.

also ball handling. god, i cant count how many times allen would dribble the [dang]ed ball off his foot trying to drive 1-3 to the basket.  smart's ball handling is better, and smart is younger and improving more than allen did. allen was 23 as a rookie. smart was 20 years old.

final point is offense. both have shown to be unreliable 3 point shooters. (careers: TA 28%, smart 29% - but it is too early to decide with smart) though smart right now may be worse.

(but what gets me about smart is that he does make what i see are "big-time" shots in close games.....sometimes. in the game with atlanta he took and made two key 3 pointers.)

allen's offense really came from his ability to jump through the roof. on missed offensive shots he would soar towards the basket and slam back the rebound. he was amazing at that, one of best i had ever seen. then he blew his knee out and that changed his game.

in contract, smart seems to be chained to the ground. on his drives he tries to bull through people, not fly over them. both allen and smart are limited on offense. earlier in their careers, allen was the flashier offensive and stats show that allen was slightly the better scorer. (adjusted for 36 minutes)

but again, allen was older by 3 years when he entered the nba.

so, are they similar? at first glance, yes, very. but if we look deeper we can also see important differences as well.

[hwangjini_1]

The things people do when they're void of talent and without shame...

ha, given the flops lebron performs i think only the second point is generally accurate.