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Offline SparzWizard

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Brad is 0-6 in the playoffs so far, unacceptable in my books.

I gave him a pass last year because it was an experiment year and we ran into the Cavs. This year...no excuse blowing games late in the season, dropping Game 1, and not getting prepared for Game 2.


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Offline saltlover

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I do think we need to either start Jerebko or Turner -- preferably JJ.  That said, as long as Crowder has lost his shot, it's going to be very difficult to create any kind of space on offense anyway, since the defense can sag off both him and Smart.

Also, I don't know who's fault it was (multiple players, I guess) that Korver got 6 open looks from 3 in the first quarter, but that pretty much decided the game.  You can't help off of Korver, and yet they did the entire first quarter.  (I know one was on Hunter, who got yanked 6 seconds after being put in the game, so it certainly wasn't the game plan to sag off Korver.)


Part of the Korver fiasco was Smart getting the bruised rib literally seconds before Korver went off. Smart went out, and that's when Hunter got owned by him. Then when Smart came back in you could tell he wasn't right the entire first quarter after that shot he took. He's done an absolutely phenomenal job on Korver every other time he's guarded him.

Part of it was that, but the shot against Hunter was either his third or fourth three in the first few minutes.  I remember Turner was on him (or had left him to crash the boards for a shot that wasn't taken) for at least one of the threes as well.  I'm not sure Smart was guarding him for more than two of those threes, both pre-injury.

Offline flybono

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Brad is 0-6 in the playoffs so far, unacceptable in my books.

I gave him a pass last year because it was an experiment year and we ran into the Cavs. This year...no excuse blowing games late in the season, dropping Game 1, and not getting prepared for Game 2.


What Team are u watching my friend?  LACK OF TALENT!

Your best player is 5 8" on a good day. You have no C or power forward to bang the boards or score in the paint. You have zero defensive presence vs power front courts.
 YOU HAVE NO SHOOTERS!

I said it once, I'll say it again, 23 26 vs .500 or better Teams. 11 16 vs Eastern conference playoff teams to include last two vs Hawks.

You have one player who could start for other Teams and that is a stretch




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This thread is absolutely ridiculous.

It amuses me to no end no many people here think they know more than Brad does.

You don't.

Brad is the only reason the tram is where it is.

Especially jpotter, don't pretend like you know how to set lineups better than Brad.

It isn't a good look.

Offline wayupnorth

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Brad is 0-6 in the playoffs so far, unacceptable in my books.

I gave him a pass last year because it was an experiment year and we ran into the Cavs. This year...no excuse blowing games late in the season, dropping Game 1, and not getting prepared for Game 2.

Lol incredible

Offline flybono

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This thread is absolutely ridiculous.

It amuses me to no end no many people here think they know more than Brad does.

You don't.

Brad is the only reason the tram is where it is.






YOUR exactly right! Amen...

The Thread should be, "how long does BS stay in the NBA waiting for Danny boy to clean this mess up"?

Offline flybono

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This thread is absolutely ridiculous.

It amuses me to no end no many people here think they know more than Brad does.

You don't.

Brad is the only reason the tram is where it is.






YOUR exactly right! Amen...

The Thread should be, "how long does BS stay in the NBA waiting for Danny boy to clean this mess up"?

Offline Eddie20

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Stevens doesn't deserve any blame, but I do think we should try to attack Korver in pick and rolls when he's on Smart. A high PNR with Isaiah setting the screen on Korver, hopefully causing the Hawks to switch, could work. As is often the case, the screener is usually open immediately following the screen. We used to to run a lot of small guy setting the screen stuff with House, which would usually get him open. It could work.

Offline elcotte

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Brad is 0-6 in the playoffs so far, unacceptable in my books.

I gave him a pass last year because it was an experiment year and we ran into the Cavs. This year...no excuse blowing games late in the season, dropping Game 1, and not getting prepared for Game 2.

Yea. Sure. I bet he's glad you gave him a pass last year.

Offline GreenWarrior

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I've yet to read anyone blame the other team.

Atlanta is easily the better team, who was likely going to win this series. and they have earned each win for taking advantage of our weaknesses.

I do however believe with the proper game planning we could have beat this team. such as addressing the Teague/Schroeder match up, which imo was the biggest problem in this series for us and thus far it has been, everything else is a result of this match up.

the next issue was the settling for jump shots - our biggest issue as a team that has been exposed in the last few weeks. now we seem to realize that a little bit but Atl. is just waiting on us to attack the basket now.

Offline the TRUTH

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For those that don't think Stevens, as the head coach, deserves any blame, what's your explanation for how horrible we were for the first 6 minutes last night? We literally looked like a high school team compared to the Hawks. The coaching staff had two full days to game plan, and then as soon as the ball was tipped, Atlanta looked great and we looked like the worst team in the league. The Hawks may be better than us as currently constituted, but I don't think the discrepancy is THAT wide. The head coach has to be given at least some of the blame.

Offline CFAN38

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I find it hard to place any blame on BS mainly because I dont know what else he can really do. The loss of AB caused a trickle down effect in the rotation moving Smart and Rozier/Hunter into less then ideal roles. Add the Ko loss and its crippling.

One minor finger of blame that could be thrown out there and this may not even be his fault is at DA. In hind-site adding a veteran wing who can provide floor space at the final roster spot would have been the most helpful. Dorell Wright is the perfect example. With that said outside of Wright who went back to the Heat im really not sure who has even on the market.

Bottom line this team is a hard worker over achiever group that doesn't have the talent to sustain 1 let alone two injuries to major rotational players. Teams like the Cavs, OKC, Warriors and Spurs have the talent to lose a key piece or two and still win a playoff series the Cs at this junction simply do not.
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Offline Dino Pitino

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For those that don't think Stevens, as the head coach, deserves any blame, what's your explanation for how horrible we were for the first 6 minutes last night? We literally looked like a high school team compared to the Hawks. The coaching staff had two full days to game plan, and then as soon as the ball was tipped, Atlanta looked great and we looked like the worst team in the league. The Hawks may be better than us as currently constituted, but I don't think the discrepancy is THAT wide. The head coach has to be given at least some of the blame.

Yep. Head coach cannot be blameless for that. Our head coach is not perfect. There absolutely must have been something Stevens as a coach could've done to prevent that atrocious start from happening yet again.
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Offline alldaboston

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For sure Brad deserves some blame. I think the starting bigs need to be changed. Maybe Amir can stay but sully can't start for us. And Brad needs to really let everyone know that we have to start off sharper. No more lazy passes, no more poor shot selection. The planning definitely is partly on Brad, we aren't this bad.

Danny deserves some blame too. All these nice scoring options were available. Kevin Martin. Marcus Thornton. Joe Johnson. Heck, even Michael Beasley to an extent. It didn't seem like Danny put any effort to try to get these guys. All we ended up with was 2 weeks of Coty Clarke and this Holland guy. Surely we could have done a better job, either at the deadline or in waivers, at finding guys who address our biggest concern: shooting.

Lastly, we are still a young team. Youngest in the playoffs, I think 3rd youngest in the NBA. Year 3 of a rebuild and we are tied for 3rd best record in the east (thanks in no small part to Brad, yet it seems some here want him gone or something). Got screwed over due to stupid tiebreaker rules and injuries. But this team is still heading in the right direction. We have cap space, picks, assets, ammo to fire if the time is right.


I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Offline playdream

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As much as i like Coach BS he has done a terrible job in the playoffs so far (and for preparing for it,too)
We are supposed to be a deep team but he played the young guys too little which in a degree caused our current short-handed situation
He should learn NBA is different from colleage and you have to rest your guys and develope your youngsters, not only try to win as more as possible in the regular season