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Re: Wolves in negotiations to make Tom Thibodeau coach
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2016, 04:14:42 PM »

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Time for Danny to steal his shirt with a blockbuster trade. Bet Thibs would be willing to pay  high price for Smart, Crowder and/or Avery Bradley. Relationships mean a lot when trades go down. Ask McHale.

Re: Wolves in negotiations to make Tom Thibodeau coach
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2016, 04:52:21 PM »

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If I am Minnesota and I just hired Thibs I wiukd trade Lavine and this years lotto pick for jimmy butler.


Wonder if Chicago would deal with Thibs.

Rubio, butler, Wiggins, towns, and dieng with Thibs as coach would be astounding on defense.


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Re: Wolves in negotiations to make Tom Thibodeau coach
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2016, 06:15:18 PM »

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Wiggins future lock down defender with this move.

Re: Wolves in negotiations to make Tom Thibodeau coach
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2016, 06:26:11 PM »

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Wiggins future lock down defender with this move.

Or knee issues within a couple of years.

Re: Wolves in negotiations to make Tom Thibodeau coach
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2016, 07:34:15 PM »

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Time for Danny to steal his shirt with a blockbuster trade. Bet Thibs would be willing to pay  high price for Smart, Crowder and/or Avery Bradley. Relationships mean a lot when trades go down. Ask McHale.

Smart for Lavine straight up? Thibs gets another defender, we get another guy who can score.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: Wolves in negotiations to make Tom Thibodeau coach
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2016, 08:03:01 PM »

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Great Hire. I seriously think the Wolves will be a top team in the West in a couple of years.

Re: Wolves in negotiations to make Tom Thibodeau coach
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2016, 08:33:43 PM »

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Time for Danny to steal his shirt with a blockbuster trade. Bet Thibs would be willing to pay  high price for Smart, Crowder and/or Avery Bradley. Relationships mean a lot when trades go down. Ask McHale.

Smart for Lavine straight up? Thibs gets another defender, we get another guy who can score.
Wolves need more shooting, not less.
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Re: Wolves in negotiations to make Tom Thibodeau coach
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2016, 08:36:34 PM »

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Time for Danny to steal his shirt with a blockbuster trade. Bet Thibs would be willing to pay  high price for Smart, Crowder and/or Avery Bradley. Relationships mean a lot when trades go down. Ask McHale.

Smart for Lavine straight up? Thibs gets another defender, we get another guy who can score.
Wolves need more shooting, not less.

That can be addressed with their pick this year. Could very well end up with Hield if things go right for them
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

you vs. the guy she tells you not to worry about

Re: Wolves in negotiations to make Tom Thibodeau coach
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2016, 09:31:59 PM »

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Time for Danny to steal his shirt with a blockbuster trade. Bet Thibs would be willing to pay  high price for Smart, Crowder and/or Avery Bradley. Relationships mean a lot when trades go down. Ask McHale.

Smart for Lavine straight up? Thibs gets another defender, we get another guy who can score.
Wolves need more shooting, not less.

That can be addressed with their pick this year. Could very well end up with Hield if things go right for them

Smart looks like a Thibs type of player, but is Lavine a Stevens type? He's a ball stopper who takes a lot of ill advised shots.

Re: Wolves in negotiations to make Tom Thibodeau coach
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2016, 10:02:45 PM »

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I can't wrap my head around this

How is a coach also the president , while there is another guy doing the GM duties??


If the GM wants to fire Thibs, can Thibs then fire him 1st to prevent such a move??


If Thib does not like the player the GM is thinking about obtaining or drafting, can he put on his presidents hat and override the decision?

someone help me explain

Re: Wolves in negotiations to make Tom Thibodeau coach
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2016, 10:15:13 PM »

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I can't wrap my head around this

How is a coach also the president , while there is another guy doing the GM duties??


If the GM wants to fire Thibs, can Thibs then fire him 1st to prevent such a move??


If Thib does not like the player the GM is thinking about obtaining or drafting, can he put on his presidents hat and override the decision?

someone help me explain
First off, you need to have a good working relationship to make this work. In San Antonio, Pop is coach and president while Buford is GM, and I'd say that is working out pretty well. The wolves new GM will be Scott Layden, the Spurs assistant GM. Thibs will have more control than him, but they will both work together on draft and trades and free agents. The only way Thibs will get fired is if it comes from Glen Taylor, the owner. Layden won't be able to fire Thibs, but Thibs could theoretically fire Layden, but would probably need Taylor's blessing. Basically, the power in the Wolves organization will go Taylor - Thibs - Layden, but since Taylor doesn't know squat about basketball, Thibs will have final say on roster decisions.
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Re: Wolves in negotiations to make Tom Thibodeau coach
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2016, 10:20:46 PM »

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Time for Danny to steal his shirt with a blockbuster trade. Bet Thibs would be willing to pay  high price for Smart, Crowder and/or Avery Bradley. Relationships mean a lot when trades go down. Ask McHale.

Smart for Lavine straight up? Thibs gets another defender, we get another guy who can score.
Wolves need more shooting, not less.

That can be addressed with their pick this year. Could very well end up with Hield if things go right for them

Smart looks like a Thibs type of player, but is Lavine a Stevens type? He's a ball stopper who takes a lot of ill advised shots.

Eh. Jordan Crawford had a similar reputation before playing for Brad. I just think Lavine would be a good fit due to his athleticism and ability to get in the paint better. Maybe someone who has watched more wolves ball can help me out, but he seems somewhat decent without the ball too, right? Like, catch and shoot kinda stuff? Idk, I just watch highlights when I can so I could be wrong.

Edit: and I just saw he shot >34% from three the past 2 seasons
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I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

you vs. the guy she tells you not to worry about

Re: Wolves in negotiations to make Tom Thibodeau coach
« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2016, 10:32:55 PM »

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If I am Minnesota and I just hired Thibs I wiukd trade Lavine and this years lotto pick for jimmy butler.


Wonder if Chicago would deal with Thibs. Reunite them with Thibs.

Rubio, butler, Wiggins, towns, and dieng with Thibs as coach would be astounding on defense.

Why stop there?

Sign Luol Deng for at least 2 years.

You got.

Rubio
Butler
Wiggins
Deng
Towns

Problem is there isn't enough reliable shooting on that lineup, but that's a very capable defensive squad.
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Re: Wolves in negotiations to make Tom Thibodeau coach
« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2016, 12:32:31 AM »

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I can't wrap my head around this

How is a coach also the president , while there is another guy doing the GM duties??


If the GM wants to fire Thibs, can Thibs then fire him 1st to prevent such a move??


If Thib does not like the player the GM is thinking about obtaining or drafting, can he put on his presidents hat and override the decision?

someone help me explain
First off, you need to have a good working relationship to make this work. In San Antonio, Pop is coach and president while Buford is GM, and I'd say that is working out pretty well. The wolves new GM will be Scott Layden, the Spurs assistant GM. Thibs will have more control than him, but they will both work together on draft and trades and free agents. The only way Thibs will get fired is if it comes from Glen Taylor, the owner. Layden won't be able to fire Thibs, but Thibs could theoretically fire Layden, but would probably need Taylor's blessing. Basically, the power in the Wolves organization will go Taylor - Thibs - Layden, but since Taylor doesn't know squat about basketball, Thibs will have final say on roster decisions.

well said man

Re: Wolves in negotiations to make Tom Thibodeau coach
« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2016, 12:54:18 AM »

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Time for Danny to steal his shirt with a blockbuster trade. Bet Thibs would be willing to pay  high price for Smart, Crowder and/or Avery Bradley. Relationships mean a lot when trades go down. Ask McHale.

Smart for Lavine straight up? Thibs gets another defender, we get another guy who can score.
Wolves need more shooting, not less.

That can be addressed with their pick this year. Could very well end up with Hield if things go right for them

Smart looks like a Thibs type of player, but is Lavine a Stevens type? He's a ball stopper who takes a lot of ill advised shots.

Eh. Jordan Crawford had a similar reputation before playing for Brad. I just think Lavine would be a good fit due to his athleticism and ability to get in the paint better. Maybe someone who has watched more wolves ball can help me out, but he seems somewhat decent without the ball too, right? Like, catch and shoot kinda stuff? Idk, I just watch highlights when I can so I could be wrong.

Edit: and I just saw he shot >34% from three the past 2 seasons

Lavine is much better off the ball than on. He is an elite catch-and-shoot shooter. (I believe he was over 40% on catch-and-shoot 3s this year). Although he improved slightly as PG due to Sam Mitchell force feeding him minutes, the TWolves started to do well when they started Lavine at the 2 alongside Rubio.

His problem is that he can get in the paint, but he too often avoids contact. Watch his summer league tapes from last year as an example. He only goes up for dunks when he knows he'll flush it; when there's a guy in the way, Lavine tries to do a fancy layup or floater. If Lavine gets a Westbrook mean streak and tries to physically push himself to the limit, trying to dunk over everyone and everything, I think he'll take off. If not, he'll be a solid shooter/combo guard in spot minutes.

He's an awful defender all around.

Smooth stroke, work-in-progress with the ball in his hands, elite athleticism, no defensive stance, and no defensive awareness is the book on Lavine right now.

(I follow the TWolves as my "second team." I don't see as many of their games as I do the Celtics, but I have a pretty good grasp of what they're doing and how they're developing.)