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turner has not only been good
« on: April 16, 2016, 10:40:35 AM »

Offline rollie mass

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his versatility, and durability coupled with his contract made him a steal-hope he has a great series and resigns with us-

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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2016, 10:48:15 AM »

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My heart wants him. I would NOT want to be Danny on this one.

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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2016, 11:22:35 AM »

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Clutch scorer.
Something we desperately need.

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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2016, 12:22:04 PM »

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I criticized the signing, but he's been great for us. He's provided some individual shot creation for a squad that desperately needs it, and he has really improved on defense. When we get another star to pair with IT, we might not need him as much anymore. But until then, we should keep him around.

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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2016, 12:42:18 PM »

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He won me over this year in a big way.  However, I kind of have a hard time seeing a spot for him unless a lot of our roster gets moved this offseason.  Smart needs to get the chance to handle the ball next year otherwise we are wasting him and really hurting his progression.  You have to assume we sign a FA or two plus the draft spots... hard to see it happening to me.
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2016, 12:57:10 PM »

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I have no interest whatsoever in forcing an underachieving Smart into the lineup. If he can't earn his way in, and he most assuredly has not, then he should either come off the bench or be moved.

Smart's progression is in his hands. It has nothing to do with one of the most consistent players on this roster, Turner, who certainly should be resigned.
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2016, 01:02:43 PM »

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I have no interest whatsoever in forcing an underachieving Smart into the lineup. If he can't earn his way in, and he most assuredly has not, then he should either come off the bench or be moved.

Smart's progression is in his hands. It has nothing to do with one of the most consistent players on this roster, Turner, who certainly should be resigned.

But my question is what happens if we sign Turner to some 4 year 40 million dollar deal and then see Smart take the job from him?

Now if he'll settle for an Amir Johnson deal, I'm completely on board. But with Thomas, Bradley, Smart, and Crowder already getting minutes at the 1-3, then Rozier, Hunter, and Young, and then even more potential wings coming in the draft, I just really worry that a long term Evan Turner deal could be a real albatross down the road.

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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2016, 01:05:19 PM »

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I have no interest whatsoever in forcing an underachieving Smart into the lineup. If he can't earn his way in, and he most assuredly has not, then he should either come off the bench or be moved.

Smart's progression is in his hands. It has nothing to do with one of the most consistent players on this roster, Turner, who certainly should be resigned.

How does a PG not getting to be a PG not effect him?  If we had Rondo and made him play off ball all the time how do you think he would produce?  Plus Smart comes off the bench and I'm suggesting he also just comes off the bench, so I don't know what you even mean in your post acting like he is forcing his way into the line up or like this is any sort of minutes change for him (it's not, Stevens has been playing him all year).  I'm suggesting he keeps coming off the bench but actually gets to play his position.  It's about his role.

When he gets to be a PG the kid can really pass the ball and had some great passing games down the stretch.
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2016, 01:16:54 PM »

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Smart, quite frankly, has not panned out as I see it. We can find a guard who can defend. This pick is headed for the growing Ainge bust list.

Trying to force progression from an obviously limited player - I am not at all impressed by anything he does offensively, shoot, pass, whatever. His judgment with the ball is atrocious - is a mistake that will damage this franchise.

He hasn't beaten Turner out. Reacting to that by unloading Turner is absolutely the wrong thing the do.

Sigh. I wanted Julius Randle with 6, and so far, I was spot on.

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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2016, 01:26:57 PM »

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I still love Smart, but I accept he's probably not going to be as good as I was originally hoping.  Evan Turner though I can't take at all

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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2016, 01:41:29 PM »

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If Smart ever finds a jumper, especially a 3pt, all will be forgiven. He can play out his rookie deal looking for one. I have always looked at him as a combo guard anyway, not a point.

As to Turner, we have to resign him if we can. A 2 year 25 million front loaded with an option for 3 at 12 million is about what it may cost. That is tradeable if he is playing decent and we need to move him for a younger or better player.
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2016, 01:57:42 PM »

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Sorry Bo I don't think you're paying all that much attention if you think he can't pass.  Plus thinking Randle is the answer instead  ::)
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2016, 02:21:05 PM »

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 coach bo-randle is playing for the lakers on kobe's goodbye tour and  the opposition is not even interested or provoked to take the game seriously
teams justed feasted on the lakers while padding their offensive stats and playing half hearted defence at best

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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2016, 03:00:54 PM »

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Smart, quite frankly, has not panned out as I see it. We can find a guard who can defend. This pick is headed for the growing Ainge bust list.

Trying to force progression from an obviously limited player - I am not at all impressed by anything he does offensively, shoot, pass, whatever. His judgment with the ball is atrocious - is a mistake that will damage this franchise.

He hasn't beaten Turner out. Reacting to that by unloading Turner is absolutely the wrong thing the do.

Sigh. I wanted Julius Randle with 6, and so far, I was spot on.

Smart hasn't panned out as I saw it either. I felt he could have eventually been a go to scorer for us who got to the line many times per game. I still have hope for him though. I won't give up on the kid. I definitely don't want Randle on this team. So far he has just shown empty stats and no defense. If smart would stop taking so many threes, and instead work to drive to the rim more, I'd be so pleased. Right now I think I saw a stat that said like 40% of his attempts are from 3. Cut that down to like 25% and that'd be great.

Honestly if he cuts the threes down his FG% will not be nearly as bad. He has also shown a semi-decent mid range game out of the PnR. It'd be nice if he takes those more.
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Turner has been exactly what this team has needed and he's done very well. But I assume the Celtics are going to go through some changes this summer. We can't bring in as many draft picks as we have and if trades happen, I wouldn't be surprised to see some current players traded or allowed to walk to make room for (hopefully) more talent. If that means Turner walks, I'll be ok with it.
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