NBA Playoffs 2015-2016

[jpotter33]

On the replay Livingston at least called Foster an MFer.  He had a legit gripe, and Scott Foster is a lousy official, but you can't expect to get away with that in the NBA.

Two technicals, though? I don't see it. It should be extremely hard to be thrown out of a playoff game due to the ramifications - like Rajon Rondo chest-bumping or throwing a ball at an official hard. Foster deserved being called out on that for missing such a blatant foul.

[Smart457]

Wow, Livingston just got thrown out of the game with two quick technicals after a BLATANT missed foul call on him. Like, it was game 2 2012 ECF Rondo-getting-slapped-in-the-head blatant missed call.

This p----poor officiating is RUINING the game. The refs are allowed to be incompetent without penalty, and guys can't even question when they make bad calls? That's absolutely ridiculous.

I agree that refs should be held accountable, BUT I put the blame on Livingston for that one. He's an integral part of a playoff team. Once he got that first technical, he should have swallowed his pride and shut up. He's an experienced veteran, and he has to think a little bit more in that situation.

I don't think there's any justification for throwing guys out like that, especially in the playoffs. Foster made a horrible no-call. One technical foul is enough. It's about the players playing, not the refs. I think even Adam Silver would agree with that.

I hate that we place the blame on the player not the official, and you can't even talk about officials due to the league making them beyond reproach. It's been especially bad this year with all of the missed calls and inconsistency. We had one game where we had three flagrant fouls that were called on similar hits to the head as that Livingston one. It's just crazy that there's that much variance from game-to-game with officials that one night that's a flagrant foul and the other night it's a no-call, most likely because he made the basket.

That was regular season. New rules for the post season.

This is playoff basketball. I think ultimately the way the refs are calling the games that it will benefit the Cavs the most.

[Smart457]

On the replay Livingston at least called Foster an MFer.  He had a legit gripe, and Scott Foster is a lousy official, but you can't expect to get away with that in the NBA.

I think he also got the brunt from all the chirping the Warriors had been doing all game. I'm sure the refs were already on edge from it.

[D Dub]

On the replay Livingston at least called Foster an MFer.  He had a legit gripe, and Scott Foster is a lousy official, but you can't expect to get away with that in the NBA.

Two technicals, though? I don't see it. It should be extremely hard to be thrown out of a playoff game due to the ramifications - like Rajon Rondo chest-bumping or throwing a ball at an official hard. Foster deserved being called out on that for missing such a blatant foul.

It really started the play before.   Shawn comlaining about a different no call, ended up clapping his hands all the way up the floor next the ref.  Thought for sure he'd get a T but did not.  When he really blew his gasket on the very next play, the double T was warranted.   

Officials are brutally inconsistent tonight though.   Disagreements warranted. 

[Smart457]

On the replay Livingston at least called Foster an MFer.  He had a legit gripe, and Scott Foster is a lousy official, but you can't expect to get away with that in the NBA.

Two technicals, though? I don't see it. It should be extremely hard to be thrown out of a playoff game due to the ramifications - like Rajon Rondo chest-bumping or throwing a ball at an official hard. Foster deserved being called out on that for missing such a blatant foul.

It really started the play before.   Shawn comlaining about a different no call, ended up clapping his hands all the way up the floor next the ref.  Thought for sure he'd get a T but did not.  When he really blew his gasket on the very next play, the double T was warranted.   

Officials are brutally inconsistent tonight though.   Disagreements warranted.

Yep. It was a build up.

[Smart457]

The Warriors are going to have to dig deep and start playing more physical to match the style being allowed.

[fairweatherfan]

On the replay Livingston at least called Foster an MFer.  He had a legit gripe, and Scott Foster is a lousy official, but you can't expect to get away with that in the NBA.

I think he also got the brunt from all the chirping the Warriors had been doing all game. I'm sure the refs were already on edge from it.

Yup and Scott Foster is notoriously thin-skinned.  It sucks he got thrown out but he threw the door wide open by cursing an official like that.  None of it would be a problem if Foster could see a clear hit to the head, though.

It really started the play before.   Shawn comlaining about a different no call, ended up clapping his hands all the way up the floor next the ref.  Thought for sure he'd get a T but did not.  When he really blew his gasket on the very next play, the double T was warranted.   

Officials are brutally inconsistent tonight though.   Disagreements warranted. 

TP, I didn't see that.  And I agree.

[Smart457]

On the replay Livingston at least called Foster an MFer.  He had a legit gripe, and Scott Foster is a lousy official, but you can't expect to get away with that in the NBA.

I think he also got the brunt from all the chirping the Warriors had been doing all game. I'm sure the refs were already on edge from it.

Yup and Scott Foster is notoriously thin-skinned.  It sucks he got thrown out but he threw the door wide open by cursing an official like that.  None of it would be a problem if Foster could see a clear hit to the head, though.

It really started the play before.   Shawn comlaining about a different no call, ended up clapping his hands all the way up the floor next the ref.  Thought for sure he'd get a T but did not.  When he really blew his gasket on the very next play, the double T was warranted.   

Officials are brutally inconsistent tonight though.   Disagreements warranted. 

TP, I didin't see that.

yep and the ref enjoyed throwing him out. That's the only part I'm not a fan of.

[jpotter33]

It honestly sucks that such an unlikable team in Cleveland is going to waltz their way to the Finals while four likable teams in the West have to battle it out to face them.

Obviously, I don't want OKC to win to give Durant the best excuse to leave, but to me they're a fairly likable team - San Antonio, too. It's hard to not be a fan of Kawhi, and LMA has really impressed me this postseason, too.

Golden State and Portland are both also extremely likable teams with underdog type of players that are easy to love - Curry, Green, Livingston, Lillard, McCollum, etc.

[Smart457]

Nice move putting Iggy on CJ

[Smart457]

If Curry can get just one three to fall it might lead to 3-4 more. I say keep shooting it.

[max215]

Wow, Livingston just got thrown out of the game with two quick technicals after a BLATANT missed foul call on him. Like, it was game 2 2012 ECF Rondo-getting-slapped-in-the-head blatant missed call.

This p----poor officiating is RUINING the game. The refs are allowed to be incompetent without penalty, and guys can't even question when they make bad calls? That's absolutely ridiculous.

I agree that refs should be held accountable, BUT I put the blame on Livingston for that one. He's an integral part of a playoff team. Once he got that first technical, he should have swallowed his pride and shut up. He's an experienced veteran, and he has to think a little bit more in that situation.

I don't think there's any justification for throwing guys out like that, especially in the playoffs. Foster made a horrible no-call. One technical foul is enough. It's about the players playing, not the refs. I think even Adam Silver would agree with that.

I hate that we place the blame on the player not the official, and you can't even talk about officials due to the league making them beyond reproach. It's been especially bad this year with all of the missed calls and inconsistency. We had one game where we had three flagrant fouls that were called on similar hits to the head as that Livingston one. It's just crazy that there's that much variance from game-to-game with officials that one night that's a flagrant foul and the other night it's a no-call, most likely because he made the basket.

I agree with most of this, but a player has to know when to stop complaining. He has to know when it's time to give up, regardless of whether or not he's right. The referees (and their inconsistency) are a serious problem, but that's something that has to be dealt with through negotiations between the NBA, NBPA, and NBRA. Right now, in this important game, Shaun Livingston cannot afford to take a stand against unjust refereeing; he has to to take the high road and just play.

Side Note: I love when coaches have the cojones to call the refs out after games. I like that they're willing to accept the fines to stick up for what's right, without costing their teams on the court.

[D Dub]

Problem is, bad officiating is having the undesired effect of increasing viewership thanks to ESPN and all the hemming and hawing over the replays.

NBA has no literally no incentive to improve upon their sub-par officials.   

[Celtic Fan Forever]

Curry really proving why he's the MVP right now. Even shooting 0-9 from downtown he's making a huge impact on this game with his drives and passes. Just having him out there is making a difference. The Warriors are +20 with Curry on the court tonight.

[Smart457]

Wow, Livingston just got thrown out of the game with two quick technicals after a BLATANT missed foul call on him. Like, it was game 2 2012 ECF Rondo-getting-slapped-in-the-head blatant missed call.

This p----poor officiating is RUINING the game. The refs are allowed to be incompetent without penalty, and guys can't even question when they make bad calls? That's absolutely ridiculous.

I agree that refs should be held accountable, BUT I put the blame on Livingston for that one. He's an integral part of a playoff team. Once he got that first technical, he should have swallowed his pride and shut up. He's an experienced veteran, and he has to think a little bit more in that situation.

I don't think there's any justification for throwing guys out like that, especially in the playoffs. Foster made a horrible no-call. One technical foul is enough. It's about the players playing, not the refs. I think even Adam Silver would agree with that.

I hate that we place the blame on the player not the official, and you can't even talk about officials due to the league making them beyond reproach. It's been especially bad this year with all of the missed calls and inconsistency. We had one game where we had three flagrant fouls that were called on similar hits to the head as that Livingston one. It's just crazy that there's that much variance from game-to-game with officials that one night that's a flagrant foul and the other night it's a no-call, most likely because he made the basket.

I agree with most of this, but a player has to know when to stop complaining. He has to know when it's time to give up, regardless of whether or not he's right. The referees (and their inconsistency) are a serious problem, but that's something that has to be dealt with through negotiations between the NBA, NBPA, and NBRA. Right now, in this important game, Shaun Livingston cannot afford to take a stand against unjust refereeing; he has to to take the high road and just play.

Side Note: I love when coaches have the cojones to call the refs out after games. I like that they're willing to accept the fines to stick up for what's right, without costing their teams on the court.

I think most coaches do that to help protect the league. In the end they are profiting from the league so it's a bad look to diss the refs when the league backs them.

During the game the coach's job is to work the refs to help his team but after the game there is no benefit from trashing the refs.