NBA breaks 2016 Draft Order Tie Breakers with coin toss. News on Mavs Pick

[Smartacus]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241594/NBA-Breaks-Ties-For-Draft-Order
I've got some good news...

The Mavericks also won a tiebreaker over the Grizzlies to get the 16th pick, which will be conveyed to the Celtics.

and some less good news...

In a four-way tiebreaker drawing, the Boston Celtics get 23rd pick in the draft, losing to the Atlanta Hawks (21) and Charlotte Hornets (22).

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The NBA has broken their tiebreakers for the draft order with a coin flip.

The Sacramento Kings will get the eighth position in the lottery, which almost entirely eliminates the chance of falling outside of the top-10 to lose their pick to the Chicago Bulls. The Kings would have to be jumped by three teams behind them to fall out of the top-10.

The Denver Nuggets get the ninth slot and the Milwaukee Bucks get the 10th slot.

The Mavericks also won a tiebreaker over the Grizzlies to get the 16th pick, which will be conveyed to the Celtics.

The Pistons also won a tiebreaker over the Blazers to the 18th pick.

In a four-way tiebreaker drawing, the Boston Celtics get 23rd pick in the draft, losing to the Atlanta Hawks (21) and Charlotte Hornets (22).

The Philadelphia 76ers (from the Heat) get the 24th pick.

The order will reverse for the second round: Heat (51), Celtics (52), Hornets (53) and Hawks (54).

[CelticSooner]

Not too bad. Mavs pick was the bigger deal and the C's beat Miami again lol

[KGs Knee]

This is dumb, just plain dumb.

Atlanta gets the better playoff seed AND the better pick?

Bad rule.

The draft order should go by the same tie breakers to determine playoff seed.

[Smartacus]

Not too bad. Mavs pick was the bigger deal and the C's beat Miami again lol

Agreed, though there's probably a good chance that whoever Danny wants at 16 will also be there at 17 (Terry Rozier) the jump up to 16 will look better in a potential trade package.

[bballdog384]

Not too bad. Mavs pick was the bigger deal and the C's beat Miami again lol

In a four-way tiebreaker drawing, the Boston Celtics get 23rd pick in the draft, losing to the Atlanta Hawks (21) and Charlotte Hornets (22).

Yeah talk about ominous. We lose to the Hawks and Hornets, then beat Miami in both the last 3 games and in the coin flip.

[CelticSooner]

This is dumb, just plain dumb.

Atlanta gets the better playoff seed AND the better pick?

Bad rule.

The draft order should go by the same tie breakers to determine playoff seed.

Why? Because the C's lost two of their last 3 games?

[PhoSita]

This is dumb, just plain dumb.

Atlanta gets the better playoff seed AND the better pick?

Bad rule.

The draft order should go by the same tie breakers to determine playoff seed.

It seems pretty unlikely to really matter.  Who cares who we pick in the 20s in this draft?  We're all hoping that pick gets packaged with others to turn into some players who can make an impact next year.

[Lucky17]

If playoff seeds and draft position are both based on regular season records, then it stands to reason they should align.

Nice to see the flip went Boston's way on the #16 pick, though.

[LarBrd33]

This is dumb, just plain dumb.

Atlanta gets the better playoff seed AND the better pick?

Bad rule.

The draft order should go by the same tie breakers to determine playoff seed.

Yeah that stings. 

[KGs Knee]

This is dumb, just plain dumb.

Atlanta gets the better playoff seed AND the better pick?

Bad rule.

The draft order should go by the same tie breakers to determine playoff seed.

It seems pretty unlikely to really matter.  Who cares who we pick in the 20s in this draft?  We're all hoping that pick gets packaged with others to turn into some players who can make an impact next year.

I'm not worried over picking 23 versus 21, it's such a small difference at that point in the draft.

But that's not really the point. As Lucky mentioned above, it's illogical to not have the draft order match the playoffs seeds.  There is no good reason I can think of to have the criteria differ.

[max215]

This is dumb, just plain dumb.

Atlanta gets the better playoff seed AND the better pick?

Bad rule.

The draft order should go by the same tie breakers to determine playoff seed.

I agree. It's ridiculous, frankly.

[PhoSita]

This is dumb, just plain dumb.

Atlanta gets the better playoff seed AND the better pick?

Bad rule.

The draft order should go by the same tie breakers to determine playoff seed.

It seems pretty unlikely to really matter.  Who cares who we pick in the 20s in this draft?  We're all hoping that pick gets packaged with others to turn into some players who can make an impact next year.

I'm not worried over picking 23 versus 21, it's such a small difference at that point in the draft.

But that's not really the point. As Lucky mentioned above, it's illogical to not have the draft order match the playoffs seeds.  There is no good reason I can think of to have the criteria differ.

Well, I think they probably do the coin flips near the top of the draft for the sake of fairness, where draft positioning matters a lot more, and later in the draft it makes sense to be consistent with how tiebreakers are done earlier in the draft.

[KGs Knee]

This is dumb, just plain dumb.

Atlanta gets the better playoff seed AND the better pick?

Bad rule.

The draft order should go by the same tie breakers to determine playoff seed.

It seems pretty unlikely to really matter.  Who cares who we pick in the 20s in this draft?  We're all hoping that pick gets packaged with others to turn into some players who can make an impact next year.

I'm not worried over picking 23 versus 21, it's such a small difference at that point in the draft.

But that's not really the point. As Lucky mentioned above, it's illogical to not have the draft order match the playoffs seeds.  There is no good reason I can think of to have the criteria differ.

Well, I think they probably do the coin flips near the top of the draft for the sake of fairness, where draft positioning matters a lot more, and later in the draft it makes sense to be consistent with how tiebreakers are done earlier in the draft.

I think it would be perfectly fine to break ties in the draft lottery differently than the non-lottery portion of the draft.  They sort of already do.

I assume if two team tie for the 8th seed in their conference, which obviously would mean the tie needs to broken by normal tie breaker rules, they don't then break the tie for draft positioning separately (by coin flip), as that would potentially result in a team making the playoffs and also winning the draft lottery.

[Cman]

This is dumb, just plain dumb.

Atlanta gets the better playoff seed AND the better pick?

Bad rule.

The draft order should go by the same tie breakers to determine playoff seed.

All the more reason to beat ATL in the playoffs.

[jambr380]

This is dumb, just plain dumb.

Atlanta gets the better playoff seed AND the better pick?

Bad rule.

The draft order should go by the same tie breakers to determine playoff seed.

It seems pretty unlikely to really matter.  Who cares who we pick in the 20s in this draft?  We're all hoping that pick gets packaged with others to turn into some players who can make an impact next year.

I'm not worried over picking 23 versus 21, it's such a small difference at that point in the draft.

But that's not really the point. As Lucky mentioned above, it's illogical to not have the draft order match the playoffs seeds.  There is no good reason I can think of to have the criteria differ.

Well, I think they probably do the coin flips near the top of the draft for the sake of fairness, where draft positioning matters a lot more, and later in the draft it makes sense to be consistent with how tiebreakers are done earlier in the draft.

I think it would be perfectly fine to break ties in the draft lottery differently than the non-lottery portion of the draft.  They sort of already do.

I assume if two team tie for the 8th seed in their conference, which obviously would mean the tie needs to broken by normal tie breaker rules, they don't then break the tie for draft positioning separately (by coin flip), as that would potentially result in a team making the playoffs and also winning the draft lottery.

TP for that logic, as it totally makes sense. Obviously it makes sense in the lottery, but it makes no sense with playoff teams where tie breakers have already taken place for seeding. Home court advantage and a higher pick is all that needs to be said on this point.