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Mark Stein's COY award ridiculousness
« on: April 09, 2016, 08:38:53 PM »

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Im not even mad that he picked Kerr (who only coached half the year). I'm just insanely ticked off that there is NO remote mention of Brad Stevens ANYWHERE in this article (other than a quote by him about how Pop and Kerr are great). But there is no mention of Brad as a candidate at all; nothing is mentioned about the job he has done in Boston.  In fact Stein claims there are 7 possible candidates: Stotts, Carlisle, Casey, Popovich, Kerr, Joerger, and Clifford. Unbelievable the disrespect Brad and the C's get from the media.

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Re: Mark Stein's COY award ridiculousness
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2016, 08:50:58 PM »

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The Warriors proved that they are a great team and a great bunch of personalities with or without Kerr. They do it with Luke Walton (Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.?), they'd do it with any other coach in the league, hell they'd do it with monkey as a head coach (just like political parties in my country - people are not important, system is).

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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2016, 08:51:21 PM »

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I'm pretty sure this is a minority opinion, because I've actually seen a lot of media people, even non-Boston media, arguing that Brad is the frontrunner for the award.
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Re: Mark Stein's COY award ridiculousness
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2016, 08:53:12 PM »

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I think the C's have become somewhat of a media darling over the last few years, actually. I don't pay attention to Stein though.

Honestly in my mind Pop should win going away. The Spurs have their best record ever and are on track to have the one of the 10 best records in NBA history, potentially eclipsing the 86 Celtics, 92 Bulls, 08 Celtics and many others.

And he's done it with a new star (Aldridge), an existing superstar and a bunch of other guys who are shells of their former selves.




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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2016, 08:59:47 PM »

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I think the C's have become somewhat of a media darling over the last few years, actually. I don't pay attention to Stein though.

Honestly in my mind Pop should win going away. The Spurs have their best record ever and are on track to have the one of the 10 best records in NBA history, potentially eclipsing the 86 Celtics, 92 Bulls, 08 Celtics and many others.

And he's done it with a new star (Aldridge), an existing superstar and a bunch of other guys who are shells of their former selves.

Sry man but I'm pretty tired of people saying how Pop made it work with Aldridge coming in. Are you serious? Like he's bad person or an average player....

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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2016, 09:05:45 PM »

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Stein and Simmons are great writers, but their basketball knowledge is pretty limited.
Simmons is an entertainer and Stein is a sports reporter who's tried to find a niche in the NBA.
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2016, 09:39:14 PM »

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To a large extent the COY award is about expectations.  Brad's year to win was last year, when nobody expected the Celts to make the playoffs.  This year, there was a lot of buzz about the Celts as a possible 50 win seed, and most expected them to make the playoffs no problem.  Some even picked them to challenge for a top 2 seed in the East.  So in the eyes of some, the Celts may actually come slightly short of expectations (as a 4 seed with under 50 wins).

I'm not saying any of that is reasonable, but that's at play.
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2016, 09:43:06 PM »

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I think the C's have become somewhat of a media darling over the last few years, actually. I don't pay attention to Stein though.

Honestly in my mind Pop should win going away. The Spurs have their best record ever and are on track to have the one of the 10 best records in NBA history, potentially eclipsing the 86 Celtics, 92 Bulls, 08 Celtics and many others.

And he's done it with a new star (Aldridge), an existing superstar and a bunch of other guys who are shells of their former selves.

Sry man but I'm pretty tired of people saying how Pop made it work with Aldridge coming in. Are you serious? Like he's bad person or an average player....

I called him a star. But, he's a star whose offensive game didn't really fit with the Spurs' style.

Here are his TS% and scoring numbers by month:

Nov 49%  16ppg
Dec 55%  16ppg
Jan 57%  17ppg
Feb 60%  21ppg
Mar 62%  23ppg


It wasn't plug-and-play. Pop adapted and so did Aldridge, and if you look at how Duncan, Parker and Ginobili are playing it's amazing the Spurs are where they are.


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The most impressive thing with the Spurs is how they are having such amazing success despite seriously changing up their entire blueprint for success from last year to this year.

They went from that super fast ball movement outside shooting style that won them a title in 2014 to a much slower, mid-range heavy, defense first style.  And all it got them was 65+ wins and a historically great defensive season.
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The most impressive thing with the Spurs is how they are having such amazing success despite seriously changing up their entire blueprint for success from last year to this year.

They went from that super fast ball movement outside shooting style that won them a title in 2014 to a much slower, mid-range heavy, defense first style.  And all it got them was 65+ wins and a historically great defensive season.

Exactly. TP.

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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2016, 08:03:10 AM »

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The most impressive thing with the Spurs is how they are having such amazing success despite seriously changing up their entire blueprint for success from last year to this year.

They went from that super fast ball movement outside shooting style that won them a title in 2014 to a much slower, mid-range heavy, defense first style.  And all it got them was 65+ wins and a historically great defensive season.

Exactly. TP.

Agreed. That was a phenomenal coaching job.