Predicting who Danny will pick with the Nets pick

[mctyson]

It is going to be fun to bring this thread back from the dead in 3 months.

[Tr1boy]

I wouldn't be surprised if Sabonis went around 10th or 11th but 5th??  ?

And tell me who you think are ahead of Sabonis (big players) and reason why

Did any of them do 19 and 14 rebound avg for the tourney?

Great job, Triboy. You're willing to reach about 10-15 spots from where he's projecting to go based on what, 3 tourney games? That makes a ton of sense. If he had won a title you probably would've had him as the overall #1.

yes and you are willing to reach for Bender bc he looks flashy but showed no "substance"/consistency.

This makes a ton of sense

I don't think you understand what reaching is. It's not about where you, say you're the GM (scary thought actually) has players ranked on their board, and where they're drafted. It's where they are projected to be selected and where you actually take them. Do you notice the difference in the player projections below and compare them to where you want to take Sabonis (5th overall) and where you would take Bender?

Bender
Si- 3
ESPN- 3
Draft Express- 3
USA Today - 3


Sabonis
Si- 17
ESPN- 17
Draft Express- 19
USA Today - 18

Can you answer the question asked?

Also you have a lack of understanding of what CBS and Ainge want in players for their system.

Ainge can care less about ESPN, USA Today etc. They are not real scouts.  If he cared about what they think, Rozier would of not be chosen at 16 for example 

 

[Eddie20]

I wouldn't be surprised if Sabonis went around 10th or 11th but 5th??  ?

And tell me who you think are ahead of Sabonis (big players) and reason why

Did any of them do 19 and 14 rebound avg for the tourney?

Great job, Triboy. You're willing to reach about 10-15 spots from where he's projecting to go based on what, 3 tourney games? That makes a ton of sense. If he had won a title you probably would've had him as the overall #1.

yes and you are willing to reach for Bender bc he looks flashy but showed no "substance"/consistency.

This makes a ton of sense

I don't think you understand what reaching is. It's not about where you, say you're the GM (scary thought actually) has players ranked on their board, and where they're drafted. It's where they are projected to be selected and where you actually take them. Do you notice the difference in the player projections below and compare them to where you want to take Sabonis (5th overall) and where you would take Bender?

Bender
Si- 3
ESPN- 3
Draft Express- 3
USA Today - 3


Sabonis
Si- 17
ESPN- 17
Draft Express- 19
USA Today - 18

Can you answer the question asked?

Also you have a lack of understanding of what CBS and Ainge want in players for their system.

Ainge can care less about ESPN, USA Today etc. They are not real scouts.  If he cared about what they think, Rozier would of not be chosen at 16 for example

I don't think you're remembering where DX and Ford had Rozier. They both had him going late teens, following workouts and such where his value increased, which is in the range of where he was actually selected. The point is that the draft experts are providing an opinion. That opinion seems to be collectively shared. Does Ainge have his independent thoughts? Obviously, but it's laughable if you think he shares your ridiculous assessment of Sabonis based on 3 tournament games. Having a top 5 pick and coming away with Sabonis, a player that's upside is probably that of a prime Luis Scola, is disastrous.

[vjcsmoke]

I would consider Sabonis with the Mavs pick, but no way with our Nets pick.  You're getting overly influenced by 1 tournament.

The bigger question is should the Celtics draft Murray or Hield, although they are somewhat short for their positions, both 6'4.  They need more scoring, but if we can land Durant, would we even want to expend the draft capital on a young scorer who is somewhat undersized and still a couple of years away?

[acieEarl]

I wouldn't rule out Butler or Cousins in a trade. Chicago may blow it up and start over and Butler is there only major chip to use. Sac may have finally had it with Cousins as he's managed to p--- everyone off in that organization and Divac/Ranadive may finally look to move him.

[alldaboston]

I wouldn't rule out Butler or Cousins in a trade. Chicago may blow it up and start over and Butler is there only major chip to use. Sac may have finally had it with Cousins as he's managed to p--- everyone off in that organization and Divac/Ranadive may finally look to move him.

I just hope we don't overpay. Like, what if we give them this year nets pick and the right to swap next year. And what if both picks become studs (like Wiggins and towns, even though towns was Minnesotas own pick).

Basically what I'm saying is, I'd rather be in the Timberwolves situation than the Cavs situation right now.

[CFAN38]

We will leave out the 1st two picks for a sec

If we get the 3rd pick -  Between Jaylen Brown or Murray  -  draft Brown - Brown has qualities Danny likes in a wing player.  Wingspan (6'11-7'0) , athleticism, strength, rebounding, finish through contact at the basket, versatile defender.  Comparison - Jason Richardson

If we get the 4th pick -  Murray -  To me has Klay Thompson written all over him. The good and bad.  6'5 vs 6'7 but imo stronger at the same age.   Same deadly shooter/scorer from all over the court.   Effort on defense but nothing amazing.  The Scoring/shooting is the real prize here

If we get the 5th pick - Sabonis  (If he is 6'11 and has 9'0 reach).  Because he is not explosive (though light on his feet), being 6'11 and having 9'0 reach would be big for his draft stock.   No other big was as instrumental for their team.  Very good post skills , feel for game and rebounder.   Improved on his FT shooting percentage from 66 to 74 and did not hesitate to throw up 15-17 ft jump shots.   Much more hesitant to shoot the three, but made them at a decent clip for a big guy (when comfortable to shoot it).    Strong, high motor, has ability to guard from the post or out to the perimeter, embraces physical play.  Intense and leader material.  Comparison - Al Jefferson/Charles Oakley


Also If we draft Brown or Murray
It likely means bye to James Young.  We don't have to give in to Evan Turner's demand for his next contract (especially for length of deal).  2-3 years instead of 4 or 5 he wants.   

IF we draft Sabonis
Zeller either way won't be brought back.  Amir option picked up regardless (unless Horford or another FA big brought in).   You can play a bit more hardball with Sullinger and his next deal.

I would say regardless of who is chosen with the Nets pick, Danny goes for the "upside" pick with the Mavs.    Zimmerman, Chriss, Dejounte Murray,  Labissiere, Ellenson are some names that come to mind. And at least 2 should be available

And that 3rd 1st pick if you can't use to move up from either Nets  or Mavs draft position,  finally use to pick a foreign player to draft and stash.   

Try to use the 2nd picks , even overpay as a tool to move up a spot or two, to get the guy you want.

I personally would go bender, Poeltl, then prob brown. My gut feeling would be that DA goes Bender, Brown, Poeltl. With that said I think DAs plan A and B will be to trade the pick for Okafor or as the center piece of a package to go after butler or griffin

As for sabonis going 5th ahead of Bender, it has been a while but if you look back at there U18 fiba stats bender was as productive while being almost 2 years younger. One player has a transcendent skill set while the other should be a solid rotational big. High in the lottery you have to gamble on upside and take bwener