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Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2016, 12:01:23 PM »

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I think you are underatting Ingram athletically he is above Jabari Parker look he's so long it might make him look worse but the guy has a way better vertical then Jabari and he's still getting stronger. Once Guys get into the league and commit to training they get stronger and realize their potential....I mean look at this.....
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Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2016, 12:02:14 PM »

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As pretty much everyone else has said, in no world will Hield go number 1.

There is a small chance he could.

One of the best shooters to come out of college in the last 3 years. Needs only a crack of room before launching the 3. Able to get free using picks to shoot 3s. 

In tremendous shape and a good athlete

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2016, 12:06:26 PM »

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As pretty much everyone else has said, in no world will Hield go number 1.

There is a small chance he could.

One of the best shooters to come out of college in the last 3 years. Needs only a crack of room before launching the 3. Able to get free using picks to shoot 3s. 

In tremendous shape and a good athlete

No, the 76ers have the right to swap with the Kings, so they won't have the opportunity to make that mistake
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Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2016, 02:41:17 PM »

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As pretty much everyone else has said, in no world will Hield go number 1.

There is a small chance he could.

One of the best shooters to come out of college in the last 3 years. Needs only a crack of room before launching the 3. Able to get free using picks to shoot 3s. 

In tremendous shape and a good athlete

No, the 76ers have the right to swap with the Kings, so they won't have the opportunity to make that mistake

We don't know yet if the 76ers will get the 1st pick

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2016, 02:48:34 PM »

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Heild is more Ray Allen/Eric Gordon than Curry/Jerry West. He should go 3. Simmons is a blend of Odom and Malone. Ingram is a blend of PG and KD. So those two have to still be the top 2 favorites.

Ray Allen was very athletic and great at ballhandling/finisher around the rim. He was not a shooter. That was just one part of his game.

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #35 on: April 02, 2016, 02:52:02 PM »

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The hype train for Hield on this forum is out of control. If you take a step back, you'll realize that his only above-average skill is shooting. He's an average athlete, below average size, average handles, average defense, average playmaking, below average decisionmaking, etc. It's just that as a college senior, he's above average in all those categories compared with his competition, so he dominates. In the NBA, he's probably a good role player. He might still be a top-10 prospect, but that's just because this draft has a crappy top 10.

TP baby. I mean he could be good, but I think it's way to risky to assume he is nothing more than a role player.

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2016, 02:52:46 PM »

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Could Hield be like Hersey Hawkins in the NBA?

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2016, 02:54:46 PM »

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The hype train for Hield on this forum is out of control. If you take a step back, you'll realize that his only above-average skill is shooting. He's an average athlete, below average size, average handles, average defense, average playmaking, below average decisionmaking, etc. It's just that as a college senior, he's above average in all those categories compared with his competition, so he dominates. In the NBA, he's probably a good role player. He might still be a top-10 prospect, but that's just because this draft has a crappy top 10.

These are all the same things they said about Curry coming out of Davidson.

So you're saying this guy is Steph Curry? Besides Curry played a lot of pick and roll in college, his handles were better in college than this guy. Second, you can't use Curry as an example. It's a once and a lifetime player. There have been more players like Hield, who have not panned out because it turned out they were just in an advanced stage in college.

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2016, 02:56:54 PM »

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I have doubts about Ingram's athleticism too.  I don't think he's any kind of sure thing.  I'd strongly consider Hield or Dunn ahead of him.

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2016, 03:09:35 PM »

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The hype train for Hield on this forum is out of control. If you take a step back, you'll realize that his only above-average skill is shooting. He's an average athlete, below average size, average handles, average defense, average playmaking, below average decisionmaking, etc. It's just that as a college senior, he's above average in all those categories compared with his competition, so he dominates. In the NBA, he's probably a good role player. He might still be a top-10 prospect, but that's just because this draft has a crappy top 10.

These are all the same things they said about Curry coming out of Davidson.

So you're saying this guy is Steph Curry? Besides Curry played a lot of pick and roll in college, his handles were better in college than this guy. Second, you can't use Curry as an example. It's a once and a lifetime player. There have been more players like Hield, who have not panned out because it turned out they were just in an advanced stage in college.

I feel it's a good example because he proved (once again) that you can't have these forgone conclusions about players coming out of the draft. 

How many superior athletes get drafted early with the notion of, once he adds the jumper...  Only to be relegated to a role player when the shots don't fall?   MKG, Parker, JYoung etc etc

Me, I'd rather have the guy who can shoot straight away.   If you can't drain the 3 these days, it's really hard to break through.   

Then, outside the top 5 you get guys like Devin Booker, Klay Thompson, Curry who all have higher ceilings due to their shooting prowess.   

Besides, this Celtics team isn't in any kind of position to be developing 19 yr olds with shaky skill sets.  Give me the more proven player with the knockdown jumper.   That's a player Brad can use. 

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2016, 03:22:36 PM »

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Nah.


As for the "his only above average ability is shooting" thing, well ...

Putting the ball in the basket is kind of an important skill.  So many guys have been drafted to this league whose only skill PERIOD was that.  So if Hield is this good at shooting -- and it appears he is, since it's been going for a while -- and he's at least a decent or coachable player in numerous other categories, he could easily be a star.

How many people thought Curry would do anything other than shooting at the level he's currently doing it?  Curry isn't just an amazing shooter.

Not saying Hield will ever be nearly as good as Curry.  The point is, having great shooting / scoring as your one stand out skill is actually a pretty significant thing.
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Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2016, 04:29:31 PM »

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The hype train for Hield on this forum is out of control. If you take a step back, you'll realize that his only above-average skill is shooting. He's an average athlete, below average size, average handles, average defense, average playmaking, below average decisionmaking, etc. It's just that as a college senior, he's above average in all those categories compared with his competition, so he dominates. In the NBA, he's probably a good role player. He might still be a top-10 prospect, but that's just because this draft has a crappy top 10.

If you think he's just a senior dominating a bunch of freshman you're going to be in shock the next few years. The dude is a going to really good player in the NBA. All-Star? Probably not but much better than what you think he is.

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2016, 04:43:00 PM »

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i'll have a glass of whatever you are drinking.

Never stated I think he will. The question is, does he have a chance to leapfrog over Simmons and/or Ingram.
He'd have to have the most incredible two games imaginable, then have great interviews and workouts, while the others would have to have horrid interviews, maybe get arrested, maybe measure smaller than we thought and/or get injured. So it's possible

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2016, 05:08:45 PM »

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i'll have a glass of whatever you are drinking.

Never stated I think he will. The question is, does he have a chance to leapfrog over Simmons and/or Ingram.
He'd have to have the most incredible two games imaginable, then have great interviews and workouts, while the others would have to have horrid interviews, maybe get arrested, maybe measure smaller than we thought and/or get injured. So it's possible

Hield could go number one if the other 3 draft choices withdraw from the draft.

I love Hield. He is the double secret insurance to this draft.  If the ping pong balls go against us.
Hield at 4 or 5 might be a great draft.
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Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2016, 05:09:22 PM »

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People talk about Redick when they disparage Hield, as if that would be a bad outcome.


Redick is as close to a star as you can get while still being a role player.  Every team in the league could use Redick, regardless of how many minutes they could give him.

Hield is bigger and will probably grab more boards and do more playmaking than Redick in the NBA.  He could easily become a more well rounded player.


All of which is to reiterate ... no, he shouldn't go #1 overall.  But he'll probably be a very solid pick in the top 5-10.
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