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How high will Brice Johnson go in the draft?
« on: April 01, 2016, 07:21:59 PM »

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PF - 6'9 with 6'11 wingspan. 228 pounds.

He is kililng it in the tourney right now. Carrying the Tar Heels.  Just unstoppable. 

He has progressively gained strength from year to year  (now a senior) but still is only 228 (likely not good enough to battle NBA PF/C). 

Get a JJJ nightmare thinking about it. But on the other hand Johnson is that much more explosive. Kenneth Faried type explosive off the ground. Runs like a Gazelle. 

Versatile defender .  Is going a good job boxing out consistently this season, but again in the nba at this point would get moved (would be tough to grab rebounds just by using physical tool). 

Has a 15 ft jump shot but is more like a floater.   The way he shoots I'm not sure he could ever become a threat from further than 17 ft.   

Regardless if he can put on 15 pounds,  this guy could be a dangerous player for years to come in the NBA. 

How high does he go?  With the Mavs pick, do you take/reach for him?

Brice Johnson UNC Full Highlights NCAA Round One 3.17.16 vs FGCU - 18 Pts, Monster 8 Blocks, 7 Rebs - 2 weeks ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaVcDvVGVrk

Re: How high will Brice Johnson go in the draft?
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2016, 12:54:24 PM »

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highlights from last nights game - 16 pts.  Terror under the basket

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7ManizBiNc

He has a nice Jump shot.  That turnaround J is sweet.    Explosive hops like Kenneth Faried


Take Johnson with the Mavs pick?

Re: How high will Brice Johnson go in the draft?
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2016, 01:05:36 PM »

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PF - 6'9 with 6'11 wingspan. 228 pounds.

He is kililng it in the tourney right now. Carrying the Tar Heels.  Just unstoppable. 

He has progressively gained strength from year to year  (now a senior) but still is only 228 (likely not good enough to battle NBA PF/C). 

Get a JJJ nightmare thinking about it. But on the other hand Johnson is that much more explosive. Kenneth Faried type explosive off the ground. Runs like a Gazelle. 

Versatile defender .  Is going a good job boxing out consistently this season, but again in the nba at this point would get moved (would be tough to grab rebounds just by using physical tool). 

Has a 15 ft jump shot but is more like a floater.   The way he shoots I'm not sure he could ever become a threat from further than 17 ft.   

Regardless if he can put on 15 pounds,  this guy could be a dangerous player for years to come in the NBA. 

How high does he go?  With the Mavs pick, do you take/reach for him?

Brice Johnson UNC Full Highlights NCAA Round One 3.17.16 vs FGCU - 18 Pts, Monster 8 Blocks, 7 Rebs - 2 weeks ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaVcDvVGVrk

Why would you ever "reach" for a marginal talent? You really love these undersized/athletic PF's that can't shoot (see Mickey), which is odd considering the league is trending the opposite direction with teams longing for stretch 4's.

Re: How high will Brice Johnson go in the draft?
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2016, 01:13:56 PM »

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PF - 6'9 with 6'11 wingspan. 228 pounds.

He is kililng it in the tourney right now. Carrying the Tar Heels.  Just unstoppable. 

He has progressively gained strength from year to year  (now a senior) but still is only 228 (likely not good enough to battle NBA PF/C). 

Get a JJJ nightmare thinking about it. But on the other hand Johnson is that much more explosive. Kenneth Faried type explosive off the ground. Runs like a Gazelle. 

Versatile defender .  Is going a good job boxing out consistently this season, but again in the nba at this point would get moved (would be tough to grab rebounds just by using physical tool). 

Has a 15 ft jump shot but is more like a floater.   The way he shoots I'm not sure he could ever become a threat from further than 17 ft.   

Regardless if he can put on 15 pounds,  this guy could be a dangerous player for years to come in the NBA. 

How high does he go?  With the Mavs pick, do you take/reach for him?

Brice Johnson UNC Full Highlights NCAA Round One 3.17.16 vs FGCU - 18 Pts, Monster 8 Blocks, 7 Rebs - 2 weeks ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaVcDvVGVrk

Why would you ever "reach" for a marginal talent? You really love these undersized/athletic PF's that can't shoot (see Mickey), which is odd considering the league is trending the opposite direction with teams longing for stretch 4's.

Better than Cliff Alexander.  How is he doing by the way?

Re: How high will Brice Johnson go in the draft?
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2016, 01:20:48 PM »

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PF - 6'9 with 6'11 wingspan. 228 pounds.

He is kililng it in the tourney right now. Carrying the Tar Heels.  Just unstoppable. 

He has progressively gained strength from year to year  (now a senior) but still is only 228 (likely not good enough to battle NBA PF/C). 

Get a JJJ nightmare thinking about it. But on the other hand Johnson is that much more explosive. Kenneth Faried type explosive off the ground. Runs like a Gazelle. 

Versatile defender .  Is going a good job boxing out consistently this season, but again in the nba at this point would get moved (would be tough to grab rebounds just by using physical tool). 

Has a 15 ft jump shot but is more like a floater.   The way he shoots I'm not sure he could ever become a threat from further than 17 ft.   

Regardless if he can put on 15 pounds,  this guy could be a dangerous player for years to come in the NBA. 

How high does he go?  With the Mavs pick, do you take/reach for him?

Brice Johnson UNC Full Highlights NCAA Round One 3.17.16 vs FGCU - 18 Pts, Monster 8 Blocks, 7 Rebs - 2 weeks ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaVcDvVGVrk

Why would you ever "reach" for a marginal talent? You really love these undersized/athletic PF's that can't shoot (see Mickey), which is odd considering the league is trending the opposite direction with teams longing for stretch 4's.

Better than Cliff Alexander.  How is he doing by the way?

This year, same as Mickey. That said, I've never exaggerated on Alexander, making nonsensical claims of him being able to stop Paul George like you have about Mickey. Just think that Alexander, given his body, strength, and age has more longterm appeal than Mickey.

So now you want Johnson? You must not think much of Mickey anymore, huh?

Re: How high will Brice Johnson go in the draft?
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2016, 01:31:18 PM »

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PF - 6'9 with 6'11 wingspan. 228 pounds.

He is kililng it in the tourney right now. Carrying the Tar Heels.  Just unstoppable. 

He has progressively gained strength from year to year  (now a senior) but still is only 228 (likely not good enough to battle NBA PF/C). 

Get a JJJ nightmare thinking about it. But on the other hand Johnson is that much more explosive. Kenneth Faried type explosive off the ground. Runs like a Gazelle. 

Versatile defender .  Is going a good job boxing out consistently this season, but again in the nba at this point would get moved (would be tough to grab rebounds just by using physical tool). 

Has a 15 ft jump shot but is more like a floater.   The way he shoots I'm not sure he could ever become a threat from further than 17 ft.   

Regardless if he can put on 15 pounds,  this guy could be a dangerous player for years to come in the NBA. 

How high does he go?  With the Mavs pick, do you take/reach for him?

Brice Johnson UNC Full Highlights NCAA Round One 3.17.16 vs FGCU - 18 Pts, Monster 8 Blocks, 7 Rebs - 2 weeks ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaVcDvVGVrk

Why would you ever "reach" for a marginal talent? You really love these undersized/athletic PF's that can't shoot (see Mickey), which is odd considering the league is trending the opposite direction with teams longing for stretch 4's.

Better than Cliff Alexander.  How is he doing by the way?

This year, same as Mickey. That said, I've never exaggerated on Alexander, making nonsensical claims of him being able to stop Paul George like you have about Mickey. Just think that Alexander, given his body, strength, and age has more longterm appeal than Mickey.

So now you want Johnson? You must not think much of Mickey anymore, huh?

You don't draft based bc of a potential logjam. In addition if you did not realize Zeller is likely a goner and we don't know what will happen with sully/amir

Per what you like - let's draft the highest upside freshman , it doesn't matter if he amounted to anything (like Alexander)-

Your prospect preference matching with what is going on with the Celts/CBS preference is really off

Brice Johnson is about 5-7 rpounds away, but due to his maturity would fit under CBS. Thay explosivness would be a nice addition for the team. He has become a solid 15-17 ft shooter. Fadeaways and all. You would know if you actually watched a game .   instead of going by "what some GM , God knows who, has said'/

Put the effort and watch the games.  The NCAA finals is coming up. It's not too late


Re: How high will Brice Johnson go in the draft?
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2016, 01:36:24 PM »

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PF - 6'9 with 6'11 wingspan. 228 pounds.

He is kililng it in the tourney right now. Carrying the Tar Heels.  Just unstoppable. 

He has progressively gained strength from year to year  (now a senior) but still is only 228 (likely not good enough to battle NBA PF/C). 

Get a JJJ nightmare thinking about it. But on the other hand Johnson is that much more explosive. Kenneth Faried type explosive off the ground. Runs like a Gazelle. 

Versatile defender .  Is going a good job boxing out consistently this season, but again in the nba at this point would get moved (would be tough to grab rebounds just by using physical tool). 

Has a 15 ft jump shot but is more like a floater.   The way he shoots I'm not sure he could ever become a threat from further than 17 ft.   

Regardless if he can put on 15 pounds,  this guy could be a dangerous player for years to come in the NBA. 

How high does he go?  With the Mavs pick, do you take/reach for him?

Brice Johnson UNC Full Highlights NCAA Round One 3.17.16 vs FGCU - 18 Pts, Monster 8 Blocks, 7 Rebs - 2 weeks ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaVcDvVGVrk

Why would you ever "reach" for a marginal talent? You really love these undersized/athletic PF's that can't shoot (see Mickey), which is odd considering the league is trending the opposite direction with teams longing for stretch 4's.

Better than Cliff Alexander.  How is he doing by the way?

This year, same as Mickey. That said, I've never exaggerated on Alexander, making nonsensical claims of him being able to stop Paul George like you have about Mickey. Just think that Alexander, given his body, strength, and age has more longterm appeal than Mickey.

So now you want Johnson? You must not think much of Mickey anymore, huh?

You don't draft based out a logjam. In addition if you did not realize Zeller is likely a goner and we don't know what will happen with sully/amir

Per what you like let's draft the highest upside freshman , it doesn't matter if he amounted to anything (like Alexander)

Your prospect preference matching with what is going on with the Celts/CBS preference is really off

Brice Johnson is "ready" and would fit under CBS. He has become a solid 15-17 ft shooter. Fadeaways and all. You would know if you actually watched a game .   instead of going by "what some GM , God knows who, has said'/

Put the effort and watch the games.  The NCAA finals is coming up. It's not too late

I think you should stop watching so much college basketball. It's a different game and you put way too much stock into it (see your Hield comparison to Curry and Burke to CP3 for example).

Re: How high will Brice Johnson go in the draft?
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2016, 01:39:01 PM »

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i politely ask that each of you please stop baiting one another. it is derailing this thread.

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Re: How high will Brice Johnson go in the draft?
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2016, 02:31:53 PM »

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At a glance, he sounds like good value for a late lottery pick. Decent size with very good athleticism. Defensive talent. Rebounds well. Low level offensive game. Could maybe sneak into the 6-10th range if workouts go well.

Edit: Hmm ... he  is senior. Did not realize that. I would like him to be further along at this point. That is concerning. Yeah, I think 20s is more likely give concerns over his frame / muscle + shooting.
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Re: How high will Brice Johnson go in the draft?
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I think around #20 to #30. Possibly an early pick in the second round like Draymond Green. He has played well in the tourney, but I think his height will end up hurting his draft stock.
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Re: How high will Brice Johnson go in the draft?
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2016, 04:25:19 PM »

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At a glance, he sounds like good value for a late lottery pick. Decent size with very good athleticism. Defensive talent. Rebounds well. Low level offensive game. Could maybe sneak into the 6-10th range if workouts go well.

Edit: Hmm ... he  is senior. Did not realize that. I would like him to be further along at this point. That is concerning. Yeah, I think 20s is more likely give concerns over his frame / muscle + shooting.

There is that JJJ "skinny" concern.  But It is a good sign that every year in college he has managed to add weight/strength.  He was a toothpick as a freshman. Also lacked a J

fast fwd to today and he is a 230,  has no problems playing physical brand of basketball and has a nice J he can go to at any time. Especially that fadeaway or turnaround J is quite nice.  He has only an avg wingspan but extremely explosive off the ground. That 2nd jump is as good as there is

He is also 6'9 which is an acceptable size for a PF in the NBA. 

I would think about using the Mavs pick to grab him. In a year or two IF he can add 10-12 pounds of muscle without it affecting his explosiveness, he will be a good player in the NBA

Re: How high will Brice Johnson go in the draft?
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2016, 04:28:51 PM »

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 Teams will be stupid for passing on this kid. He's Sean Marion that plays power forward.  If we lose Sully we should draft him, not that he can replace Sullinger, but Roy Williams said he's the best rebounder he's ever coached.

Re: How high will Brice Johnson go in the draft?
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2016, 05:25:34 PM »

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 Teams will be stupid for passing on this kid. He's Sean Marion that plays power forward.  If we lose Sully we should draft him, not that he can replace Sullinger, but Roy Williams said he's the best rebounder he's ever coached.

Exactly

It took him a bit of time to gain pounds but it's going. Plus that J and ironing out other trouble areas

Villanova is going to have their hand full with him for the final game.   I say johnson will be the difference maker for the Tar Heels

Re: How high will Brice Johnson go in the draft?
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2016, 06:01:50 PM »

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How good is the jump-shot?

Any numbers on how many shots he has hit outside of 10 feet this season?
And what percentage he has shot on them?

Re: How high will Brice Johnson go in the draft?
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2016, 06:08:30 PM »

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I think it largely depends upon what Denver, Philly, Boston and Phoenix do with their multiple 1st round picks.  As it stands now, he is a long shot to be a first round pick, because several late first rounders will be used for draft and stash - there just aren't enough roster spots for all of those teams to use all of their picks on college players.  The more of those picks that end up getting traded, the better chance he has of being selected in round 1.

Personally, I think he is a mid-second round talent, but all it takes is for one team to like you and you are a first rounder.  I'd rather the Celtics not take him, regardless of where.  He is a garbage man in the NBA and nothing more.  Mickey does everything Brice can do and then some.  Jordan's greatest strength is this team's biggest weakness (rim protection), and he still can't get minutes.

I see Johnson having a career similar to a lot of skinny, athletic post players.  He'll rot at the end of someone's bench; he'll have a dunk or two and block a shot during garbage time and fans will say he needs to play more.  Opposing fans will say "we need to trade for him because of what he did against our D-Leaguers".  He will be a throw-in in two or three trades (with the new team's fans having huge hopes for him each time).  In 10 years he will have had a long career hanging around the league with no accomplishments to his name.