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Re: Rozier
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2016, 11:54:47 AM »

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If you think about the top scoring wings in the league, some of the common denominators are quick first step, great ball-handling, fluidity/creativity/flexibility with the ball in their hands, body control, and finishing at the rim. Rozier has at least the beginnings of all of those elements. It doesn't mean he's a sure thing -- I felt Marshon Brooks had a lot of those things too, but he's now out of the league -- but you have to be encouraged.

With all that said: keep in mind that Rozier and Smart are virtually the same age. Rozier is on the older side for rookies.
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Re: Rozier
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2016, 11:55:10 AM »

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Was disappointed he couldn't hit the 3 after the beautifully executed pnr

Hopefully his shot becomes consistent

Really like the way he plays. Really gets involved under the basket to try to grab rebounds. Really long wingspan

Isn't it as long as Rondo?
It's close. Rondo's wingspan is 6'9 while Rozier's is 6'8.

That is really close. 

Maybe Danny misses Rondo and hopes Rozier is the 2nd coming. Not as good of a passer but better scorer/shooter version

If Rozier becomes anywhere near as good as Rondo was/is, I think we will all be really excited as fans.



He many not end up the old school PG/ ball control pure passer Rondo is, but he may end up being a better modern day PG. A more reliable scorer/shooter, a more reliable defender, while sharing the ball in a modern ball movement offense. More of what CBS and Danny want for this team.

Anyway, I think we're just scratching the surface of his game. It'll be fun to watch him blossom.

Re: Rozier
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2016, 12:14:46 PM »

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Besides being the best gum chewer on the team and maybe the whole league, he has a nose for the ball. He always seems to know where the ball will end up. He also seems to be a little more picky about his shot which I like from a rookie.

Re: Rozier
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2016, 06:50:52 PM »

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Liked him in his spurts tonight. I think he can have an Avery Bradley esque NBA arch.

Avery Bradley isn't a bad NBA arch at all, but I actually think Rozier has more upside. I know this might sound crazy, but I think Rozier could be an all star. I just really love his skills.

Rozier is a superior ball handler to AB.  I think he has a good career ahead of him as at least a backup PG.  If he can be our Schroeder it is all gravy.

Re: Rozier
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2016, 06:54:58 PM »

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Big question on Rozier: can he shoot?

If so, ceiling is interesting. If he can't, he's a bench pest.

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Re: Rozier
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2016, 06:58:07 PM »

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Big question on Rozier: can he shoot?

If so, ceiling is interesting. If he can't, he's a bench pest.

His shot looks better than Rondo's & Bradley's in their first years.  By far, to be honest.

He's got a shot to be a pretty darn good player in the league.  He's got it all to be great.  Just needs development and time.

I hope he's kept, unless an immediate all star is coming in a return package.

Re: Rozier
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2016, 08:12:21 PM »

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Besides being the best gum chewer on the team and maybe the whole league, he has a nose for the ball. He always seems to know where the ball will end up. He also seems to be a little more picky about his shot which I like from a rookie.

Yeah, starting to really like his decision making.

There was one play yesterday where he caught the ball at the corner three - defender was closing to contest the shot, but he had enough space to get the shot off.  Instead if taking the chance and throwing up the three, he drive it straight in to the paint (causing the defense to collapse) and then kicked out out to the perimeter.  It eventually led to either a shot or or free throws for a teammate - I can't remember which it was, but I remember that it was a good outcome.

I was so happy to see that, because I feel that in that same situation most rookies in Rozier's  would either:

a) Take the three because it's the easiest option, and because they are eager to make a shot and prove themselves to earn more minutes

or

b) Hesitate with the defender coming, hold the ball, and pass it off to a teammate (due to lack of confidence).

For a 21 year old rookie who has barely any minutes out of garbage time, that's just such a smart and savvy play.  I have absolutely no question that if it was Smart in his position, he would have chucked up the three, probably missed it, potentially leading to the opposing team taking possession.

Re: Rozier
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2016, 08:15:02 PM »

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Big question on Rozier: can he shoot?

If so, ceiling is interesting. If he can't, he's a bench pest.

He shot 40% from three in Summer League, and he has shot upwards of 32% in college and in the D-League. 

You can't say the same for guys like Smart, Payton and Rondo, who had struggled with their shot everywhere they played, right from the start.

That gives me plenty of confidence that he can be an average-to-good outside shooter. 

Re: Rozier
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2016, 08:44:01 PM »

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Big question on Rozier: can he shoot?

If so, ceiling is interesting. If he can't, he's a bench pest.

His ceiling is how well he can play if he can shoot.  Whether he can shoot (or learn to shoot) is a question that affects the probability of coming close to his ceiling.
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Re: Rozier
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2016, 08:54:41 PM »

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Big question on Rozier: can he shoot?

If so, ceiling is interesting. If he can't, he's a bench pest.

His ceiling is how well he can play if he can shoot.  Whether he can shoot (or learn to shoot) is a question that affects the probability of coming close to his ceiling.

Shooting clearly the unknown ceiling variable.
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Re: Rozier
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2016, 05:06:55 AM »

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Trade Marcus this summer and give Rozier some ball.

Re: Rozier
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2016, 07:01:59 AM »

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Big question on Rozier: can he shoot?

If so, ceiling is interesting. If he can't, he's a bench pest.

His ceiling is how well he can play if he can shoot.  Whether he can shoot (or learn to shoot) is a question that affects the probability of coming close to his ceiling.

Shooting clearly the unknown ceiling variable.

I think his shooting will be fine. The bigger question IMO was whether he could adjust to leading an NBA offense, and as we've seen this month he's going to be fine there. But even that with his developmental focus this year, he shot .338 from 3 and .776 on FTs in Maine for 19 points (and 8 assists! and 6 rebounds) to lead the team in scoring.

His scoring percentages with the C's are shot this year, but look at Danny Ainge's first and second year stats. TRoz was having to learn and adjust to more than shooting in his first few minutes in his first few games in the league.

I think he'll average close to 30 minutes a game next year, make the Rising Stars game at the AS break and even be in the conversation as an AS the year after that. (How's that for a rosy projection!?!)