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Apparently Bradley is not good enough...
« on: March 22, 2016, 05:48:06 AM »

Offline TheSundanceKid

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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-vertical-guide-to-free-agency--shooting-guards-200659106.html

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Teams in need of a starter: Atlanta, Boston, Brooklyn, Charlotte, L.A. Lakers, Memphis, Miami, Milwaukee, New Orleans, New York, Oklahoma City, Philadelphia, Sacramento, Toronto and Washington.

This is probably just an over reaction on my part but reading this article made me a little mad. Firstly Bradley has been excellent as a starter all season, providing fantastic perimeter D and turning into a very legitimate scoring option throughout the game.

Looking at these rankings of FA shooting guards we have a top three of DeRozan, Wade and Beal. DeRozan you would take over Bradley, Wade at this point I don't think you would and Beal is very injury prone. Next on the list is Jordan Clarkson...

We have a guy on our team that can slow down Steph Curry as good as anyone, hits clutch shots and is a great leader of the team and still we get the talk that we need a starting SG? I'm highly respectful of Bobby Marks, I read a lot of his stuff but he's way off on this one.

Anyway rant over...

Re: Apparently Bradley is not good enough...
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2016, 06:09:27 AM »

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Guards are not our problem either as I see it.  Of course, we could improve there, but I think a good two way big would help us out more.

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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2016, 06:51:10 AM »

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this season is the first that AB hasn't completely annoyed me.

I still think he tends to disappear offensively in either a big game or against a good team, or both... his jumper just doesn't go down in these situations.

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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2016, 07:59:54 AM »

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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-vertical-guide-to-free-agency--shooting-guards-200659106.html

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Teams in need of a starter: Atlanta, Boston, Brooklyn, Charlotte, L.A. Lakers, Memphis, Miami, Milwaukee, New Orleans, New York, Oklahoma City, Philadelphia, Sacramento, Toronto and Washington.

This is probably just an over reaction on my part but reading this article made me a little mad. Firstly Bradley has been excellent as a starter all season, providing fantastic perimeter D and turning into a very legitimate scoring option throughout the game.

Looking at these rankings of FA shooting guards we have a top three of DeRozan, Wade and Beal. DeRozan you would take over Bradley, Wade at this point I don't think you would and Beal is very injury prone. Next on the list is Jordan Clarkson...

We have a guy on our team that can slow down Steph Curry as good as anyone, hits clutch shots and is a great leader of the team and still we get the talk that we need a starting SG? I'm highly respectful of Bobby Marks, I read a lot of his stuff but he's way off on this one.

Anyway rant over...
I would also take Klay Thompson over Bradley.  Kawai too, if he is considered a SG.

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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2016, 08:12:13 AM »

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So the top five players on the list are on teams who are all on the list; does this mean that those particular teams need a SG because their players are about to hit FA?

If so, that whittles the teams who have a SG under contract, but who isn't 'good enough' down to just a few teams. This I don't agree with. Bradley is at least average and actually proves his worth more on a good team than a bad one since he can adjust his game around other ball dominant players. When you also consider his defense, it makes the article a bit perplexing.


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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2016, 08:28:17 AM »

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Bradley is not good enough.  He is best suited for the 6th man role. 
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2016, 08:42:49 AM »

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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-vertical-guide-to-free-agency--shooting-guards-200659106.html

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Teams in need of a starter: Atlanta, Boston, Brooklyn, Charlotte, L.A. Lakers, Memphis, Miami, Milwaukee, New Orleans, New York, Oklahoma City, Philadelphia, Sacramento, Toronto and Washington.

This is probably just an over reaction on my part but reading this article made me a little mad. Firstly Bradley has been excellent as a starter all season, providing fantastic perimeter D and turning into a very legitimate scoring option throughout the game.

Looking at these rankings of FA shooting guards we have a top three of DeRozan, Wade and Beal. DeRozan you would take over Bradley, Wade at this point I don't think you would and Beal is very injury prone. Next on the list is Jordan Clarkson...

We have a guy on our team that can slow down Steph Curry as good as anyone, hits clutch shots and is a great leader of the team and still we get the talk that we need a starting SG? I'm highly respectful of Bobby Marks, I read a lot of his stuff but he's way off on this one.

Anyway rant over...
I would also take Klay Thompson over Bradley.  Kawai too, if he is considered a SG.
I dont think klay is an fa, neither is kawhi. Leonard also plays majority of his minutes in the 3 spot as well.

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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2016, 08:43:39 AM »

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i liked him this year, but this is as good as he is going to be, a solid shooter, a great ON BALL defender, he lacks size and strenght to defend bigger PG/SG. and he has to one of the worst passers i have ever seen, not just his lack of vision but his passes are just terrible more times than not.
but he is a keeper for sure
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2016, 08:51:46 AM »

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He has gotten better shooting, passing, ball handling, and going to the rim this year so people saying he won't get any better are confusing me.
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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2016, 08:55:34 AM »

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I like Bradley, he's a good player, best coming off the bench. He inconsistent, small for the position, and as others have pointed out, he's a terrible passer. We need another scorer, like IT that can get a steady 18-20 a night. If it has to be at the expense of Avery, so be it.

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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2016, 08:58:08 AM »

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He seems fine to me.

Bradley isn't a superstar but he worked out nicely for being the 19th overall pick. He's signed to a very reasonable contract, plays good defense and has made himself into a respectable offensive weapon. Seriously, what more could someone want or reasonably expect?

Now if the Cs happen to draft a potential superstar as SG this offseason, or a great FA falls into their  lap then I'm all for upgrading. But if they don't I'm more than comfortable continuing to stick with Bradley.
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2016, 09:29:12 AM »

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He seems fine to me.

Bradley isn't a superstar but he worked out nicely for being the 19th overall pick. He's signed to a very reasonable contract, plays good defense and has made himself into a respectable offensive weapon. Seriously, what more could someone want or reasonably expect?

Now if the Cs happen to draft a potential superstar as SG this offseason, or a great FA falls into their  lap then I'm all for upgrading. But if they don't I'm more than comfortable continuing to stick with Bradley.
All of what you say about Bradley is true, but that doesn't make him a championship level starting SG (unless the other positions include multiple HOF type players - I mean he would be fine starting on the Cavs for example).  He is on a reasonable contract and has more than lived up to his draft position, but that doesn't mean he should be the starting SG on Boston.  He shouldn't.  He should be the 6th man. 
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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2016, 09:36:27 AM »

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Bradley is nice but replaceable.  I don't think the Celts are in "need" of a starter but an upgrade at that position would certainly not be unwelcome.


The story with Bradley is the same as it's been for a while:  He's a pretty good shooter, though he tends to be pretty streaky.  He's having one of his best years, and his True Shooting is still below 55%.  He's a quality defender.  He's averaging a healthy number of steals this year.  He doesn't get to the line very often, he doesn't do much playmaking, he doesn't make an impact on the boards.

All in all, Bradley's a guy I like having on my side.  There are a handful of starting shooting guards around the league you could replace him with and the team would be about the same.  There are another 8-12, at least, that would be an upgrade.


When you consider that Hield or Dunn could be the BPA where the Celts pick in top 10 this year, the Celts will be in a good position to trade Bradley, or any of the other guards, in order to find an upgrade somewhere in the starting lineup.
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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2016, 09:50:20 AM »

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If Bradley continues driving and finishing at the rim like he has been the last several games, I think the 2 is the last position we need to upgrade.  If Hield is available with our second pick, or first if it is 5th or 6th, you take him though.  Hield has just been a step above everyone else in college basketball this season, with the possible exception of Ingram.

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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2016, 10:01:07 AM »

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So the top five players on the list are on teams who are all on the list; does this mean that those particular teams need a SG because their players are about to hit FA?

If so, that whittles the teams who have a SG under contract, but who isn't 'good enough' down to just a few teams. This I don't agree with. Bradley is at least average and actually proves his worth more on a good team than a bad one since he can adjust his game around other ball dominant players. When you also consider his defense, it makes the article a bit perplexing.
Yeah they include those teams on the list because in the event that their player leaves they would be in need. So I guess technically they are in need until they re-sign the player.

He seems fine to me.

Bradley isn't a superstar but he worked out nicely for being the 19th overall pick. He's signed to a very reasonable contract, plays good defense and has made himself into a respectable offensive weapon. Seriously, what more could someone want or reasonably expect?

Now if the Cs happen to draft a potential superstar as SG this offseason, or a great FA falls into their  lap then I'm all for upgrading. But if they don't I'm more than comfortable continuing to stick with Bradley.
All of what you say about Bradley is true, but that doesn't make him a championship level starting SG (unless the other positions include multiple HOF type players - I mean he would be fine starting on the Cavs for example).  He is on a reasonable contract and has more than lived up to his draft position, but that doesn't mean he should be the starting SG on Boston.  He shouldn't.  He should be the 6th man. 
Well what you say is confusing. He's not a starting SG on a championship team...unless he has other championship level players on the team? Are you saying he's not a number 1 option on a championship team? You'll find no argument here!
Bruce Bowen was a starting SG, Perkins was a starting C, DeShawn Stevenson started for the Mavs title run.

It's stating the obvious that you need some top level players on a team to win a championship. That doesn't make Bradley inadequate for starting