Kings play by play announcer Grant Napear torches 'disgraceful' DeMarcus Cousins

[jpotter33]

All you DMC apologists are forgetting one simple fact. Grant Napear has access to locker room happenings, practice happenings, on flight happenings, on the court conversations and incidences and conversations that never make it into the media. He has seen blow ups and further disrespectful actions on the part of Cousins that you know nothing of. He has had interactions and conversations with all of DMC's coaches and team mates that you don't. He has spoken with and knows Demarcus and so knows the man behind the player that none of you get to see or experience.

Simply put his opinion is extremely relevant. The opinions of beat writers and others around the team that are calling for Cousins to go also are relevant. All you see is what is reported in the media and what you see when Cousins plays. There is more to this situation than that and you are all blissfully sticking your heads in the sand ignoring this information that people are coming out and providing.

Irving Fryar had amazing football talent but was always a loser and a locker room problem. Adrian Dantley had amazing basketball talent but was always a loser and a locker room cancer. Professional sports is littered with guys throughout history that had All-Workd talent but could never be a winner because their own attitudes and personalities got in the way of it happening.

Has DMC been in a bad situation? Sure. But there is a mature and professional way of handling those bad situations and DMC has decided instead to be an immature, spoiled, entitled baby about things and made his team worse. There's no excuse for that. That's all on him.

And let's remember, DMC was a problem child at Kentucky also so the change of scenery from Kentucky to Sactown didn't change him. he has acted the same under different ownerships and different coaches and different organizations. I can't see him changing because he gets traded this off season.

Maybe its time some of you re-evaluate your opinions. You don't have the facts, the personal experience, or the knowledge of events that many of these people who are coming out against DMC have. perhaps instead of just obligatorily shooting down these calls against Cousins, you should listen to them some more and take them into consideration because they certainly know more about the man and what's happening behind the scenes than you do.

The same exact thing applies to all of the Cousins critics. This guy literally just went on a fifteen minute diatribe against Cousins without even mentioning once any of the dysfunction and corruption that has been the catalyst to this type of behavior out of Cousins. You simply cannot separate the two. Either this guy has an agenda that he's trying to push here, or he's legitimately fearful of bringing that up for fear of the consequences, which further highlights the corruption and dysfunction of that organization.

Look, nobody is saying that a trade for him is without risk. Every trade has risk, and Cousins definitely has some baggage. But all of the "DMC apologists" are simply saying that we think the risk is worth the reward.

I liken it to a situation like Smart. Though not a perfect comparison (Smart never had questions about his work ethic), Smart had question marks about him coming out of college due to his fiery personality, and the recent techs and fines for the crotch grab show just that. I certainly expect at least some of the same type of behavior from Cousins if we would trade for him, but is not trading for him and his elite skills worth it just to avoid those types of things? No. Cousins is a transcendent, MVP-type level talent on the right team, and we have just the kind of structure and high-character guys to surround him with to make it work.

You just simply can't write off that type of transcendent talent until you've seen him in a context that doesn't advocate 4-on-5 cherrypicking basketball, firing coaches for no reason, and coaches openly clamoring to trade their star as soon as they get the job.

[Rondo9]

Has Smart ever caused a rift in the locker room the way Cousins has?

[nickagneta]

All you DMC apologists are forgetting one simple fact. Grant Napear has access to locker room happenings, practice happenings, on flight happenings, on the court conversations and incidences and conversations that never make it into the media. He has seen blow ups and further disrespectful actions on the part of Cousins that you know nothing of. He has had interactions and conversations with all of DMC's coaches and team mates that you don't. He has spoken with and knows Demarcus and so knows the man behind the player that none of you get to see or experience.

Simply put his opinion is extremely relevant. The opinions of beat writers and others around the team that are calling for Cousins to go also are relevant. All you see is what is reported in the media and what you see when Cousins plays. There is more to this situation than that and you are all blissfully sticking your heads in the sand ignoring this information that people are coming out and providing.

Irving Fryar had amazing football talent but was always a loser and a locker room problem. Adrian Dantley had amazing basketball talent but was always a loser and a locker room cancer. Professional sports is littered with guys throughout history that had All-Workd talent but could never be a winner because their own attitudes and personalities got in the way of it happening.

Has DMC been in a bad situation? Sure. But there is a mature and professional way of handling those bad situations and DMC has decided instead to be an immature, spoiled, entitled baby about things and made his team worse. There's no excuse for that. That's all on him.

And let's remember, DMC was a problem child at Kentucky also so the change of scenery from Kentucky to Sactown didn't change him. he has acted the same under different ownerships and different coaches and different organizations. I can't see him changing because he gets traded this off season.

Maybe its time some of you re-evaluate your opinions. You don't have the facts, the personal experience, or the knowledge of events that many of these people who are coming out against DMC have. perhaps instead of just obligatorily shooting down these calls against Cousins, you should listen to them some more and take them into consideration because they certainly know more about the man and what's happening behind the scenes than you do.

The same exact thing applies to all of the Cousins critics. This guy literally just went on a fifteen minute diatribe against Cousins without even mentioning once any of the dysfunction and corruption that has been the catalyst to this type of behavior out of Cousins. You simply cannot separate the two. Either this guy has an agenda that he's trying to push here, or he's legitimately fearful of bringing that up for fear of the consequences, which further highlights the corruption and dysfunction of that organization.

Look, nobody is saying that a trade for him is without risk. Every trade has risk, and Cousins definitely has some baggage. But all of the "DMC apologists" are simply saying that we think the risk is worth the reward.

I liken it to a situation like Smart. Though not a perfect comparison (Smart never had questions about his work ethic), Smart had question marks about him coming out of college due to his fiery personality, and the recent techs and fines for the crotch grab show just that. I certainly expect at least some of the same type of behavior from Cousins if we would trade for him, but is not trading for him and his elite skills worth it just to avoid those types of things? No. Cousins is a transcendent, MVP-type level talent on the right team, and we have just the kind of structure and high-character guys to surround him with to make it work.

You just simply can't write off that type of transcendent talent until you've seen him in a context that doesn't advocate 4-on-5 cherrypicking basketball, firing coaches for no reason, and coaches openly clamoring to trade their star as soon as they get the job.

Completely disagree. He had a stellar situation in college and was a major pain in the ass there as well. He slipped in the draft not due to talent but due to his attitude and personality.  As. I have said before, professional sports is littered with players with talent but but attitudes and personalities. His environment will not change his attitude or personality. Those things were problems before getting to Sactown. They have been problems every year he has been in Sactown and he had a couple years where things weren't so messed up with the coaches and management an still was a bad apple.

Wherever he goes he is bringing his baggage. Napear has info you don't. He knows the man, you don't. I'll take his word over what Cousins is like over yours. Sorry.

[Atzar]

I'm trying to remember has Gormon ever went off on a player like this before? If he did, it'd be pretty danging.

I don't remember if he ever has come remotely close to going off like that on a player.   He did have a critical, disapproving tone regarding Marcus Smart during the vid replay of Marcus committing one of his technical fouls last week.  It was just a fleeting comment, but coming from Mike, it did feel like pretty strong stuff. 

Nothing like this rant here.

The only thing I remember from Gorman like this was in reference to Carmelo in his Denver days.  The line was something like "Wouldn't give you a bag of balls for Carmelo."  I'll always remember that because it's so uncharacteristic for Mike.

Well maybe you missed what Gormsn thinks about Cousins

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/gorman-demarcus-cousins-game-mexico-city-solidified-you-do-not-want-him-celtics

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/gorman-cousins-not-sure-you-want-do-brad-stevens-0

Watching Kings games Napear has long been a Cousins apologist, but it's apparent he's grown tired of all his childish antics.

I did miss this.  Thanks for the links.

[jpotter33]

All you DMC apologists are forgetting one simple fact. Grant Napear has access to locker room happenings, practice happenings, on flight happenings, on the court conversations and incidences and conversations that never make it into the media. He has seen blow ups and further disrespectful actions on the part of Cousins that you know nothing of. He has had interactions and conversations with all of DMC's coaches and team mates that you don't. He has spoken with and knows Demarcus and so knows the man behind the player that none of you get to see or experience.

Simply put his opinion is extremely relevant. The opinions of beat writers and others around the team that are calling for Cousins to go also are relevant. All you see is what is reported in the media and what you see when Cousins plays. There is more to this situation than that and you are all blissfully sticking your heads in the sand ignoring this information that people are coming out and providing.

Irving Fryar had amazing football talent but was always a loser and a locker room problem. Adrian Dantley had amazing basketball talent but was always a loser and a locker room cancer. Professional sports is littered with guys throughout history that had All-Workd talent but could never be a winner because their own attitudes and personalities got in the way of it happening.

Has DMC been in a bad situation? Sure. But there is a mature and professional way of handling those bad situations and DMC has decided instead to be an immature, spoiled, entitled baby about things and made his team worse. There's no excuse for that. That's all on him.

And let's remember, DMC was a problem child at Kentucky also so the change of scenery from Kentucky to Sactown didn't change him. he has acted the same under different ownerships and different coaches and different organizations. I can't see him changing because he gets traded this off season.

Maybe its time some of you re-evaluate your opinions. You don't have the facts, the personal experience, or the knowledge of events that many of these people who are coming out against DMC have. perhaps instead of just obligatorily shooting down these calls against Cousins, you should listen to them some more and take them into consideration because they certainly know more about the man and what's happening behind the scenes than you do.

The same exact thing applies to all of the Cousins critics. This guy literally just went on a fifteen minute diatribe against Cousins without even mentioning once any of the dysfunction and corruption that has been the catalyst to this type of behavior out of Cousins. You simply cannot separate the two. Either this guy has an agenda that he's trying to push here, or he's legitimately fearful of bringing that up for fear of the consequences, which further highlights the corruption and dysfunction of that organization.

Look, nobody is saying that a trade for him is without risk. Every trade has risk, and Cousins definitely has some baggage. But all of the "DMC apologists" are simply saying that we think the risk is worth the reward.

I liken it to a situation like Smart. Though not a perfect comparison (Smart never had questions about his work ethic), Smart had question marks about him coming out of college due to his fiery personality, and the recent techs and fines for the crotch grab show just that. I certainly expect at least some of the same type of behavior from Cousins if we would trade for him, but is not trading for him and his elite skills worth it just to avoid those types of things? No. Cousins is a transcendent, MVP-type level talent on the right team, and we have just the kind of structure and high-character guys to surround him with to make it work.

You just simply can't write off that type of transcendent talent until you've seen him in a context that doesn't advocate 4-on-5 cherrypicking basketball, firing coaches for no reason, and coaches openly clamoring to trade their star as soon as they get the job.

Completely disagree. He had a stellar situation in college and was a major pain in the ass there as well. He slipped in the draft not due to talent but due to his attitude and personality.  As. I have said before, professional sports is littered with players with talent but but attitudes and personalities. His environment will not change his attitude or personality. Those things were problems before getting to Sactown. They have been problems every year he has been in Sactown and he had a couple years where things weren't so messed up with the coaches and management an still was a bad apple.

Wherever he goes he is bringing his baggage. Napear has info you don't. He knows the man, you don't. I'll take his word over what Cousins is like over yours. Sorry.

[Monkhouse]

All you DMC apologists are forgetting one simple fact. Grant Napear has access to locker room happenings, practice happenings, on flight happenings, on the court conversations and incidences and conversations that never make it into the media. He has seen blow ups and further disrespectful actions on the part of Cousins that you know nothing of. He has had interactions and conversations with all of DMC's coaches and team mates that you don't. He has spoken with and knows Demarcus and so knows the man behind the player that none of you get to see or experience.

Simply put his opinion is extremely relevant. The opinions of beat writers and others around the team that are calling for Cousins to go also are relevant. All you see is what is reported in the media and what you see when Cousins plays. There is more to this situation than that and you are all blissfully sticking your heads in the sand ignoring this information that people are coming out and providing.

Irving Fryar had amazing football talent but was always a loser and a locker room problem. Adrian Dantley had amazing basketball talent but was always a loser and a locker room cancer. Professional sports is littered with guys throughout history that had All-Workd talent but could never be a winner because their own attitudes and personalities got in the way of it happening.

Has DMC been in a bad situation? Sure. But there is a mature and professional way of handling those bad situations and DMC has decided instead to be an immature, spoiled, entitled baby about things and made his team worse. There's no excuse for that. That's all on him.

And let's remember, DMC was a problem child at Kentucky also so the change of scenery from Kentucky to Sactown didn't change him. he has acted the same under different ownerships and different coaches and different organizations. I can't see him changing because he gets traded this off season.

Maybe its time some of you re-evaluate your opinions. You don't have the facts, the personal experience, or the knowledge of events that many of these people who are coming out against DMC have. perhaps instead of just obligatorily shooting down these calls against Cousins, you should listen to them some more and take them into consideration because they certainly know more about the man and what's happening behind the scenes than you do.

The same exact thing applies to all of the Cousins critics. This guy literally just went on a fifteen minute diatribe against Cousins without even mentioning once any of the dysfunction and corruption that has been the catalyst to this type of behavior out of Cousins. You simply cannot separate the two. Either this guy has an agenda that he's trying to push here, or he's legitimately fearful of bringing that up for fear of the consequences, which further highlights the corruption and dysfunction of that organization.

Look, nobody is saying that a trade for him is without risk. Every trade has risk, and Cousins definitely has some baggage. But all of the "DMC apologists" are simply saying that we think the risk is worth the reward.

I liken it to a situation like Smart. Though not a perfect comparison (Smart never had questions about his work ethic), Smart had question marks about him coming out of college due to his fiery personality, and the recent techs and fines for the crotch grab show just that. I certainly expect at least some of the same type of behavior from Cousins if we would trade for him, but is not trading for him and his elite skills worth it just to avoid those types of things? No. Cousins is a transcendent, MVP-type level talent on the right team, and we have just the kind of structure and high-character guys to surround him with to make it work.

You just simply can't write off that type of transcendent talent until you've seen him in a context that doesn't advocate 4-on-5 cherrypicking basketball, firing coaches for no reason, and coaches openly clamoring to trade their star as soon as they get the job.

Completely disagree. He had a stellar situation in college and was a major pain in the ass there as well. He slipped in the draft not due to talent but due to his attitude and personality.  As. I have said before, professional sports is littered with players with talent but but attitudes and personalities. His environment will not change his attitude or personality. Those things were problems before getting to Sactown. They have been problems every year he has been in Sactown and he had a couple years where things weren't so messed up with the coaches and management an still was a bad apple.

Wherever he goes he is bringing his baggage. Napear has info you don't. He knows the man, you don't. I'll take his word over what Cousins is like over yours. Sorry.

If the Kings made the playoffs, and Cousins became the MVP, no one would ever question his attitude... As Roy once said, Draymond Green bursts out in anger, but everyone calls it him being just very 'passionate.'

[Kuberski33]

If Danny brings him here Cousins becomes the alpha dog of the team because he'll be the highest paid player.  That will change the entire dynamic of the team.  Plus he just doesn't strike me as a 'Stevens guy' in the sense that Brad has never coached someone like him.

What worries me is that the guy appears simply uncoachable.  It makes me wonder how much he actually likes playing basketball.  Does he love the game or is it just something he happens to be good at?  If he loved it he wouldn't be acting the way he has.  Safe to assume that the Kings have coddled this guy trying to make him happy and it hasn't worked.

Maybe the light goes on and maybe it doesn't.  You hope it does but would you really risk the future of the team on this guy?  I wouldn't if my job depended on it.

[Snakehead]

I'm not sure how much people know about Napier, but I actually know probably an unusual amount because I follow a talk show host named Don Geronimo who was on in Sacramento for a few years on KHTK, where Napier's show airs.  Napier is a blowhard and not so much different from a Tanguay type.  He goes on these rants like this.  This isn't something remotely like Gorman going off on a player.  Napier is a pretty over the top guy with an over the top sports radio show.  The tone of his show is very similar to many Boston guys this board, in general I think, laughs at.

KHTK is also a station where previously those who went in on the organization previously with the blame were fired and lost their jobs.  This happened with the Maloofs to be fair, but I think that station still is always going to be pro-Kings as an organization.  The realities is that the organization is broken.

"He wants to win, but he doesn’t realize he’s his own worst enemy. He keeps on saying how much he wants to win, but he doesn’t realize that by his actions, he’s preventing his team from winning! He keeps on talking about how important it is to win, and he hates losing, but he doesn’t understand that the reason why the team loses so much is because his actions kill the team! Pretty easy to understand, pretty easy to see, isn’t it? How many more – are we going to have to deal with this next year, and then the year after that? How many times does a guy have to cross the line before you realize that it’s not working, period?

This sums it up.  Is he the worst enemy or is the organization the worst enemy?  We have all seen what has gone on very clearly and the team has drafted poorly and signed bad contracts.  It has made bad trades.   It has fired coaches left and right and immediately in the midst of the one time the team felt functional.  This is not all on Cousins.

If there are level headed smart guys to follow in Sac on the Kings they're Carmichael Dave and to a lesser extent Tom Ziller since he isn't writing about them as much.

In the end I'm sure it gets tiring to talk how much about how your organization stinks when that doesn't seem possible to change so I get why Cousins gets his share.  I just hope that brings him to us.

[moiso]

How can posters keep comparing guys like Smart, KG, and Draymond Green to Cousins?  Their personalities are the total opposite of Cousins.  Other than being emotional I don't see any similarity.  Those other guys always play with extreme aggression and intensity.  Cousins pouts and whines and doesn't try when he gets upset.  Teammates follow the lead of the the other three guys.  Cousins still needs a babysitter and teammates don't want to play with him.

[Tr1boy]

All you DMC apologists are forgetting one simple fact. Grant Napear has access to locker room happenings, practice happenings, on flight happenings, on the court conversations and incidences and conversations that never make it into the media. He has seen blow ups and further disrespectful actions on the part of Cousins that you know nothing of. He has had interactions and conversations with all of DMC's coaches and team mates that you don't. He has spoken with and knows Demarcus and so knows the man behind the player that none of you get to see or experience.

Simply put his opinion is extremely relevant. The opinions of beat writers and others around the team that are calling for Cousins to go also are relevant. All you see is what is reported in the media and what you see when Cousins plays. There is more to this situation than that and you are all blissfully sticking your heads in the sand ignoring this information that people are coming out and providing.

Irving Fryar had amazing football talent but was always a loser and a locker room problem. Adrian Dantley had amazing basketball talent but was always a loser and a locker room cancer. Professional sports is littered with guys throughout history that had All-Workd talent but could never be a winner because their own attitudes and personalities got in the way of it happening.

Has DMC been in a bad situation? Sure. But there is a mature and professional way of handling those bad situations and DMC has decided instead to be an immature, spoiled, entitled baby about things and made his team worse. There's no excuse for that. That's all on him.

And let's remember, DMC was a problem child at Kentucky also so the change of scenery from Kentucky to Sactown didn't change him. he has acted the same under different ownerships and different coaches and different organizations. I can't see him changing because he gets traded this off season.

Maybe its time some of you re-evaluate your opinions. You don't have the facts, the personal experience, or the knowledge of events that many of these people who are coming out against DMC have. perhaps instead of just obligatorily shooting down these calls against Cousins, you should listen to them some more and take them into consideration because they certainly know more about the man and what's happening behind the scenes than you do.

The same exact thing applies to all of the Cousins critics. This guy literally just went on a fifteen minute diatribe against Cousins without even mentioning once any of the dysfunction and corruption that has been the catalyst to this type of behavior out of Cousins. You simply cannot separate the two. Either this guy has an agenda that he's trying to push here, or he's legitimately fearful of bringing that up for fear of the consequences, which further highlights the corruption and dysfunction of that organization.

Look, nobody is saying that a trade for him is without risk. Every trade has risk, and Cousins definitely has some baggage. But all of the "DMC apologists" are simply saying that we think the risk is worth the reward.

I liken it to a situation like Smart. Though not a perfect comparison (Smart never had questions about his work ethic), Smart had question marks about him coming out of college due to his fiery personality, and the recent techs and fines for the crotch grab show just that. I certainly expect at least some of the same type of behavior from Cousins if we would trade for him, but is not trading for him and his elite skills worth it just to avoid those types of things? No. Cousins is a transcendent, MVP-type level talent on the right team, and we have just the kind of structure and high-character guys to surround him with to make it work.

You just simply can't write off that type of transcendent talent until you've seen him in a context that doesn't advocate 4-on-5 cherrypicking basketball, firing coaches for no reason, and coaches openly clamoring to trade their star as soon as they get the job.

Even though the root of the issue has to do with the org(60 per)

You can't excuse totally on dysfunction on the org

Cousin is treated like a king with all that has happened.  Roster changes left and right, coaching changes left and right. So basically all these quality role players and former all stars stink. All these coaches stink right?

Can't agree. You replace cousins with another all star and I bet the team is in a better state. Maybe not win many more games but the locker room atmosphere, future growth etc. Is much healthier

Napears rattle has to do with this more than win/losses. 

[Moranis]

I just posted in the other Cousins thread, but the numbers clearly show that the Kings are a significantly better team when Cousins is in the game, then when he is not in the game, on both ends of the floor.  They score a lot more and give up a lot less.  They shoot significantly better as a team and they hold their opponents to a significantly small FG%. This is pretty much across the board in all stats (except turnovers, they are slightly worse offensively at that with Cousins).  I mean that is what should happen with your best player, but if Cousins is really that much of a problem, you would think it would show statistically and it does not. 

[Snakehead]

Carmichael Dave I gave a listen on this.  As I said, a better person to listen to on this.

He basically said Karl is gone for sure.  He said Cousins is volatile so if there's a good trade take it, but Cousins isn't the one to blame for it all.  He thinks (and hears) the team still is behind Cousins.  But he basically says this year is such a mess that anyone can and should be on the table to improve the team.

Sam Amick, who is also a great guy for information and opinions on the Kings, thought Cousins showed a lot of divide with the organization with what he said.  He basically says Cousins and everyone knows Karl is gone, so them suspending him was kind of them choosing a coach that's gone over him.  He feels like maybe Divac is a bit separated from the idea of Cousins now. 

But he laid blame on Cousins play because the team has been bad since he made the All Star game, after a strong start before.  He thinks the Kings should look to trade Cousins.  He said this situation has been the perfect storm for things with Cousins to deteriorate.  If the value is there, he said the team is so bad you need to listen to all offers.

Anyways, just some more reasonable voices on the topic.

[PhoSita]

At this point Cousins looks to me like a bigger, even more talented version of Josh Smith.

He's really good, but he oughta be way better.  Does what he wants on the floor, which too infrequently includes playing with energy, effort, and focus on defense.

Maybe a different situation and a stable coaching staff would change that.  Hard to say.

[Snakehead]

He's really good, but he oughta be way better.

This I just don't agree with.  The man produces.  27 ppg, 11 rpg, 3 a, 1 stl, 1 block is fantastic.  Josh Smith never even cracked 20 ppg or 10 rpg.

[Tr1boy]

I just posted in the other Cousins thread, but the numbers clearly show that the Kings are a significantly better team when Cousins is in the game, then when he is not in the game, on both ends of the floor.  They score a lot more and give up a lot less.  They shoot significantly better as a team and they hold their opponents to a significantly small FG%. This is pretty much across the board in all stats (except turnovers, they are slightly worse offensively at that with Cousins).  I mean that is what should happen with your best player, but if Cousins is really that much of a problem, you would think it would show statistically and it does not.

This doesnt mean much , in the grand scheme of things. Not napears pt

Unless the Kings win alot bc of cousins