AJ Hammons with a lower 1st rd pick

[drogbagarnett]

My perfect realistic scenario draft would be Jamal Murray, AJ Hammons and caris Levert...
Not sure if there is another post on this Center from Purdue but to me he looks like the young Center we need to get.
Surprise by the lack of buzz around him (because he is a senior..??)
We really need that type of Center and then just add players that are both shooters and ball handlers around him. I think Murray and Levert fit that bill in a realistic scenario, given I consider Ingram as the ideal scenario...

If we miss on big FA this summer I would be happy with :

Thomas Smart Rozier
Bradley Murray Levert
Crowder Turner Hunter
Olynyk Mickey Jerebko
Sully Hammons Zeller

Could package Amir Young Zeller/Jerebko plus picks for a trade if needed/possible...

[saltlover]

No no no no no.  And no some more.

Maybe with a mid-second, but no way a first.  I've watched a lot of Hammons over his career, and there is a reason he never came out early for the NBA.  There's a reason he was demoted to being a backup even this year for a bit.  The effort is rarely there consistently.  Sure he looks nice dominating Michigan's 6'9" (in shoes) center.  But let's see if he gets to go up against someone like Poeltl in the tourney, and see what level of success he has.

Hammons is someone you don't want to give two years guaranteed to.  He's very talented, but the work ethic just hasn't been there over a four-year stint at college, and there's little reason to believe it will suddenly materialize in the NBA.

[chilidawg]

Hammons certainly has the skills and size of a true big man, but doesn't have a great motor.  I think he'd profile more as a guy off the bench, useful in certain match-ups.

It'll be interesting to see him today against MSU and Deyonta Davis and Costello.

[Bucketgetter]

Hammons certainly has the skills and size of a true big man, but doesn't have a great motor.  I think he'd profile more as a guy off the bench, useful in certain match-ups.

It'll be interesting to see him today against MSU and Deyonta Davis and Costello.

Interesting for Michigan State fans

[ThePoeticWolf]

My perfect realistic scenario draft would be Jamal Murray, AJ Hammons and caris Levert...
Not sure if there is another post on this Center from Purdue but to me he looks like the young Center we need to get.
Surprise by the lack of buzz around him (because he is a senior..??)
We really need that type of Center and then just add players that are both shooters and ball handlers around him. I think Murray and Levert fit that bill in a realistic scenario, given I consider Ingram as the ideal scenario...

If we miss on big FA this summer I would be happy with :

Thomas Smart Rozier
Bradley Murray Levert
Crowder Turner Hunter
Olynyk Mickey Jerebko
Sully Hammons Zeller

Could package Amir Young Zeller/Jerebko plus picks for a trade if needed/possible...

I like you're idea of AJ Hammons but I wouldn't draft him with the Dallas pick.  I think if Hammons is there with out pick in the late 1st 24-28, I'd be taking him for sure.  With the Dallas pick though I'd rather go with a more athletic big in Damian Jones from Vanderbilt. 

I do have a question for you though, why Jamal Murray?  Jamal Murray is the point guard for Kentucky.  We have Thomas, Smart, last years worse pick for us Rozier by already having the future in Smart and IT.  Why would you take another point guard with the Brooklyn pick?  I could see like a Buddy Hield who's a shooting guard who would come off the bench for Bradley, since it's looking like Young and Hunter are not ready and Buddy Hield could start right away if needed. 

[drogbagarnett]

Agree with your point.
I was seeing both good shooters same size and the current mock draft had murray higher so I picked him but could definitely go with Hield here...

[GreenShooter]

I also wouldn't draft the guy with any first rounder. Maybe mid-late 2nd. He is not very athletic and does not really have a post game, which he needs. I think his footwork is very slow when he tries to post-up. I think lack of motor has something to do with his lack of athleticism also. I would draft so many more guys his size (or close to it as there aren't that many with his size/bulk) before I would draft Hammons. AJ is a big though so like I said I'd be willing to waste a late pick on him.

[Evantime34]

I watched their game against Michigan State and the announcer made a point of indicating his low motor. The announcer even went as far to say that he was really disappointed in Hammons for not hustling to make it down the floor on one of Purdue's last shots.

On one hand I like the idea of drafting a true center with one of our picks. On the other hand I want the center to have shown flashes of an outside shot or athleticism to switch onto smaller players. I don't think Hammons does either, which limits his upside to only being able to play in specific situations.

If we are going to draft a true center I'd want Damian Jones, Diamond Stone, or Zimmerman. Even Sabonis is a preferable option to Hammons imo.

[saltlover]

I watched their game against Michigan State and the announcer made a point of indicating his low motor. The announcer even went as far to say that he was really disappointed in Hammons for not hustling to make it down the floor on one of Purdue's last shots.

On one hand I like the idea of drafting a true center with one of our picks. On the other hand I want the center to have shown flashes of an outside shot or athleticism to switch onto smaller players. I don't think Hammons does either, which limits his upside to only being able to play in specific situations.

If we are going to draft a true center I'd want Damian Jones, Diamond Stone, or Zimmerman. Even Sabonis is a preferable option to Hammons imo.

I don't like Hammons (see above as well my posts on him over the last 2+ years), but he has started to develop an outside shot this year.  Not a threat from three, but he's got a nice 15-footer at this point that he is much more comfortable using.  That's the one thing I'll give him.  But he's such a disappearing act so often, for a guy who should dominate, that I really would be surprised if he had a successful NBA career.  If he ever puts it together, he could be special, but there's so much information out there that says he won't ever put it together.

[chilidawg]

My perfect realistic scenario draft would be Jamal Murray, AJ Hammons and caris Levert...
Not sure if there is another post on this Center from Purdue but to me he looks like the young Center we need to get.
Surprise by the lack of buzz around him (because he is a senior..??)
We really need that type of Center and then just add players that are both shooters and ball handlers around him. I think Murray and Levert fit that bill in a realistic scenario, given I consider Ingram as the ideal scenario...

If we miss on big FA this summer I would be happy with :

Thomas Smart Rozier
Bradley Murray Levert
Crowder Turner Hunter
Olynyk Mickey Jerebko
Sully Hammons Zeller

Could package Amir Young Zeller/Jerebko plus picks for a trade if needed/possible...

I like you're idea of AJ Hammons but I wouldn't draft him with the Dallas pick.  I think if Hammons is there with out pick in the late 1st 24-28, I'd be taking him for sure.  With the Dallas pick though I'd rather go with a more athletic big in Damian Jones from Vanderbilt. 

I do have a question for you though, why Jamal Murray?  Jamal Murray is the point guard for Kentucky.  We have Thomas, Smart, last years worse pick for us Rozier by already having the future in Smart and IT.  Why would you take another point guard with the Brooklyn pick?  I could see like a Buddy Hield who's a shooting guard who would come off the bench for Bradley, since it's looking like Young and Hunter are not ready and Buddy Hield could start right away if needed.

Jamal Murray is not the point guard for Kentucky.  Have you watched them play?  Have you noticed Tyler Ulis, who is probably the best point guard in the country?  He is the Kentucky point guard.

Repeat after me:

Jamal Murray is not the Kentucky point guard
Jamal Murray will not be a point guard in the NBA
Jamal Murray is a shooting guard

[Evantime34]

My perfect realistic scenario draft would be Jamal Murray, AJ Hammons and caris Levert...
Not sure if there is another post on this Center from Purdue but to me he looks like the young Center we need to get.
Surprise by the lack of buzz around him (because he is a senior..??)
We really need that type of Center and then just add players that are both shooters and ball handlers around him. I think Murray and Levert fit that bill in a realistic scenario, given I consider Ingram as the ideal scenario...

If we miss on big FA this summer I would be happy with :

Thomas Smart Rozier
Bradley Murray Levert
Crowder Turner Hunter
Olynyk Mickey Jerebko
Sully Hammons Zeller

Could package Amir Young Zeller/Jerebko plus picks for a trade if needed/possible...

I like you're idea of AJ Hammons but I wouldn't draft him with the Dallas pick.  I think if Hammons is there with out pick in the late 1st 24-28, I'd be taking him for sure.  With the Dallas pick though I'd rather go with a more athletic big in Damian Jones from Vanderbilt. 

I do have a question for you though, why Jamal Murray?  Jamal Murray is the point guard for Kentucky.  We have Thomas, Smart, last years worse pick for us Rozier by already having the future in Smart and IT.  Why would you take another point guard with the Brooklyn pick?  I could see like a Buddy Hield who's a shooting guard who would come off the bench for Bradley, since it's looking like Young and Hunter are not ready and Buddy Hield could start right away if needed.

Jamal Murray is not the point guard for Kentucky.  Have you watched them play?  Have you noticed Tyler Ulis, who is probably the best point guard in the country?  He is the Kentucky point guard.

Repeat after me:

Jamal Murray is not the Kentucky point guard
Jamal Murray will not be a point guard in the NBA
Jamal Murray is a shooting guard

Agreed that he's a 2, but I think as he develops he will contribute more and more to the team ball handling. Just because he doesn't have point guard skills at 19 doesn't mean he won't develop them.

[ThePoeticWolf]

My perfect realistic scenario draft would be Jamal Murray, AJ Hammons and caris Levert...
Not sure if there is another post on this Center from Purdue but to me he looks like the young Center we need to get.
Surprise by the lack of buzz around him (because he is a senior..??)
We really need that type of Center and then just add players that are both shooters and ball handlers around him. I think Murray and Levert fit that bill in a realistic scenario, given I consider Ingram as the ideal scenario...

If we miss on big FA this summer I would be happy with :

Thomas Smart Rozier
Bradley Murray Levert
Crowder Turner Hunter
Olynyk Mickey Jerebko
Sully Hammons Zeller

Could package Amir Young Zeller/Jerebko plus picks for a trade if needed/possible...

I like you're idea of AJ Hammons but I wouldn't draft him with the Dallas pick.  I think if Hammons is there with out pick in the late 1st 24-28, I'd be taking him for sure.  With the Dallas pick though I'd rather go with a more athletic big in Damian Jones from Vanderbilt. 

I do have a question for you though, why Jamal Murray?  Jamal Murray is the point guard for Kentucky.  We have Thomas, Smart, last years worse pick for us Rozier by already having the future in Smart and IT.  Why would you take another point guard with the Brooklyn pick?  I could see like a Buddy Hield who's a shooting guard who would come off the bench for Bradley, since it's looking like Young and Hunter are not ready and Buddy Hield could start right away if needed.

Jamal Murray is not the point guard for Kentucky.  Have you watched them play?  Have you noticed Tyler Ulis, who is probably the best point guard in the country?  He is the Kentucky point guard.

Repeat after me:

Jamal Murray is not the Kentucky point guard
Jamal Murray will not be a point guard in the NBA
Jamal Murray is a shooting guard

Honestly I've watched some of the games an I've seen Jamal Murray and Tyler Ulis both take the ball up court as a point guard.  Also if you just put him in google, he comes up as a Point Guard.  So my guess is he was brought into Kentucky as a point guard, be is playing the combo as a point and shooting guard.  My point if you couldn't tell was saying if we were going other then a need at small forward or a star, why wouldn't you go with Buddy Hield.  Since he's looking to be the most NBA ready player in college, plus also being a shooting guard that would match our system and need more. 

[hwangjini_1]

i believe that under CBS' system, he doesnt use "pg" as a position. he classifies players as ball handlers. he likes to have multiple ball handlers on the court at the same time.

the debate over "pg" versus "sg", in this context, is moot.

[Celtics4ever]

I like his size.  Well worth taking a shot, he was a better college player than Zeller.  So we let him walk and take AJ perhaps.  Of course, I also recall Acie Earl, yuck.

[The One]

He fought pretty hard yesterday.

http://upsidemotor.com/2016/03/17/ncaa-tournament-march-madness-live-blog-day-1/

Six blocks is nice too.

"It’s unfortunate that today was A.J. Hammons’ last collegiate basketball competition, because it showed us exactly what is so enticing about him as a prospect. His six blocks were a more impressive display of awareness than most of the film on him can show (the block on Little Rock’s driving long-haired big late in the game was a beautiful example of patience in rim protection). He scored well when given the opportunity, but failed to affect the offense otherwise. Granted, a lot of that is the simple system Purdue runs that clutters the half-court far too much for him to fully thrive. However, he uses his ability to shoot far too little; there are many instances in which he could optimize his abilities by popping out from his crouched post-up stance. He rarely does.

Also unfortunate is that he was unable to get to this point before his senior season. He will need to hope that a team sees him as a project worth investing in and work hard in his first couple years to get NBA-ready. He is not that yet, but a 16-15-3-6 showing to give up a great fight as his coach threw the game away was as impressive as anything he’s done in four years at Purdue."