Lottery question

[otherdave]

If Brooklyn and Phoenix end up tied for third worst record in the NBA, is there a series of tiebreakers or simply a coin flip?

[fairweatherfan]

Coin flip.  We lost one of those to Utah in the Smart draft.

The good news is that losing the coin flip just means getting one less lotto combination than the winning team.  The bad news is that you're one spot lower in the pecking order.  That's why Utah got 5th and we got 6th.

[hwangjini_1]

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[PhoSita]

Coin flip.  We lost one of those to Utah in the Smart draft.

The good news is that losing the coin flip just means getting one less lotto combination than the winning team.  The bad news is that you're one spot lower in the pecking order.  That's why Utah got 5th and we got 6th.

Luckily it doesn't seem to have mattered, unless Danny would have taken Exum there.  In which case, that was good fortune.

[spikelovetheCelts]

Coin flip.  We lost one of those to Utah in the Smart draft.

The good news is that losing the coin flip just means getting one less lotto combination than the winning team.  The bad news is that you're one spot lower in the pecking order.  That's why Utah got 5th and we got 6th.

Luckily it doesn't seem to have mattered, unless Danny would have taken Exum there.  In which case, that was good fortune.

Exum would have not been hurt if he was with us. He was hurt playing for Utah. I like Smart way better.

[droopdog7]

Coin flip.  We lost one of those to Utah in the Smart draft.

The good news is that losing the coin flip just means getting one less lotto combination than the winning team.  The bad news is that you're one spot lower in the pecking order.  That's why Utah got 5th and we got 6th.

I've always thought they should make things more even with the whole coin flip thing.  If you win you should get the higher default position but they should give the extra lotto combination to the other team.  Will it ever matter?  Probably not but it would make me feel better.

[Eddie20]

Coin flip.  We lost one of those to Utah in the Smart draft.

The good news is that losing the coin flip just means getting one less lotto combination than the winning team.  The bad news is that you're one spot lower in the pecking order.  That's why Utah got 5th and we got 6th.

I've always thought they should make things more even with the whole coin flip thing.  If you win you should get the higher default position but they should give the extra lotto combination to the other team.  Will it ever matter?  Probably not but it would make me feel better.

The losing team does get the higher selection in the second round though.

[gift]

Coin flip.  We lost one of those to Utah in the Smart draft.

The good news is that losing the coin flip just means getting one less lotto combination than the winning team.  The bad news is that you're one spot lower in the pecking order.  That's why Utah got 5th and we got 6th.

I've always thought they should make things more even with the whole coin flip thing.  If you win you should get the higher default position but they should give the extra lotto combination to the other team.  Will it ever matter?  Probably not but it would make me feel better.

I like this idea. But let the winner of the coin flip choose if they'd rather have the extra ping pong ball combo or the higher default position.

[slamtheking]

Coin flip.  We lost one of those to Utah in the Smart draft.

The good news is that losing the coin flip just means getting one less lotto combination than the winning team.  The bad news is that you're one spot lower in the pecking order.  That's why Utah got 5th and we got 6th.

I've always thought they should make things more even with the whole coin flip thing.  If you win you should get the higher default position but they should give the extra lotto combination to the other team.  Will it ever matter?  Probably not but it would make me feel better.

I like this idea. But let the winner of the coin flip choose if they'd rather have the extra ping pong ball combo or the higher default position.

not a bad idea.  would be funny to see the team's fanbase if they opt for the higher position and the team with the extra balls wins the lottery

[mgent]

Out of curiosity/ignorance, why do they flip a coin rather than going through the tie-breaker protocol?

That'd seem like the fairest way, and it's a slight discouragement towards tanking.

[PhoSita]

Out of curiosity/ignorance, why do they flip a coin rather than going through the tie-breaker protocol?

That'd seem like the fairest way, and it's a slight discouragement towards tanking.

The league isn't really interested in discouraging tanking. 

[mgent]

Out of curiosity/ignorance, why do they flip a coin rather than going through the tie-breaker protocol?

That'd seem like the fairest way, and it's a slight discouragement towards tanking.

The league isn't really interested in discouraging tanking.

Why?

I imagine the league is interested in the best product (ie, better competition).

Their number 1 goal is obviously make money, and their 2 goal is probably increase the fanbase (because that's the best/smartest way to make money)

Discouraging tanking makes the league more watchable.

Teams like Philadelphia are grenading their fanbase.

Their best bet is probably to get rid of 2 teams to increase competition.  Increased competition will reduce tanking AND make the game more watchable.

Think about if you get rid of PHI and MIN.  Send Karl-Anthony to the Lakers, Wiggins to Phoenix, Okafor to Brooklyn, Embiid to the Knicks, Noel to the Pelicans, and Lavine to the Kings.

Add the rest of Philly/Minnesota's upcoming players to those teams.

Throw in Ingram and Simmons (maybe include Denver and MIL/ORL/WAS).  You get the idea.

Which teams still want to intentionally lose after that dispersal?

Sure, 2 teams is a lot of money that the NBA would be gambling with, but they obviously would pick the 2 smallest markets/worst money makers, I just used 2 of the worst teams as an example

Think about the final product after the dispersal though.  How couldn't it make more money, especially with the NBA/basketball becoming so popular outside the US?

What would be the 2 smartest teams, CHA and OKC?

Edit:  Imagine Durant and Westbrook going to the 2 worst teams?

[guava_wrench]

Teams like Philadelphia are grenading their fanbase.

There are no other teams "like Philadelphia"

[guava_wrench]

Out of curiosity/ignorance, why do they flip a coin rather than going through the tie-breaker protocol?

That'd seem like the fairest way, and it's a slight discouragement towards tanking.

Because no tiebreaker protocol makes sense for draft position.

Apart from Philadelphia, tanking is pretty insignificant as something to worry about. Baseball teams trade away all their major league talent all the time to rebuild. It is just normal behavior in sports to rebuild.