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Dream roster for Celtics next year
« on: February 28, 2016, 04:39:15 AM »

Offline KG Living Legend

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 We win the lottery and take Simmons.

 
 We sign Horford and Durant.

 Al Horford
 Ben Simmons
 Kevin Durant
 Bradley
 Thomas

 Kelly
 Mickey
 Crowder
 Turner
 Smart

 

 This team has it all. Title bound within three years.
 

 
 
 
« Last Edit: February 28, 2016, 05:28:41 AM by KG Living Legend »

Re: Your Wish list roster next Year.
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 Defense and shot blocker lineup

 Horford, Hammons
 Mickey
 Crowder
 Smart
 Simmons
 
 
 
 
 

 

 
« Last Edit: February 28, 2016, 05:18:53 AM by KG Living Legend »

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Re: Dream roster for Celtics next year
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We win the lottery and take Simmons.

 
 We sign Horford and Durant.

 Al Horford
 Ben Simmons
 Kevin Durant
 Bradley
 Thomas

 Kelly
 Mickey
 Crowder
 Turner
 Smart

 

 This team has it all. Title bound within three years.

Let's say we did get incredibly lucky and win the lottery, it would or at least should be enticing for Durant and Horford to sign.  They would be joining a team made up of hard nosed, hard working players or bulldogs as Rivers called them.  Guys that play great defense, play with a lot of energy, share the ball on offense, a team with depth, and for a coach that's been getting more from his team than the sum of its parts.

You would have a guy like Simmons who would grow into a star over a few seasons and is an excellent passer.  The team would also have a ton of good draft picks on the way that will allow it to keep adding talent.  The young talent should be coming into their own as Durant and Horford's talents are in decline.  Think about how well things have turned out for Duncan. 

Durant would be the man for a team ready to contend immediately and for a long time to come. 

Re: Your Wish list roster next Year.
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2016, 06:01:34 AM »

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Going at this blind so if there are any issues apologies. The main points of my rebuild go like this, I'm assuming 1 tier below absolute perfection. I'm not assuming we land the first pick and I'm not assuming Kevin Durant signs here.

For the purposes of this rebuild going off the earth shattering scenario where Durant signs in Golden State and the likely scenario that Brooklyn nets us the 4th pick. Both of these paths IMO are not only plausible but likely. Durant to GS is the type of power house move that hasn't shook the league since Lebron chose Miami and Brooklyn's improvement has finally stalled after the Joe Johnson waive... too late to stop Phoenix from out tanking Brooklyn but just in time for them to retain the 4th worst record in the league. Where does this leave us. I'd argue in a great spot to capitalize.

My off-season can be broken down into 3 phases. Draft and stash Dragan Bender. Sign Al Horford to a 4 year Max. Sign Harrison Barnes to a max outside of GS's match range. As for the smaller moves...Let Sullinger Walk, resign Turner, don't pick up Johnson's option. Resign Zeller to a modest deal. Keep Jerebko if we can.

These scenarios are going to be controversial to many but IMO solidifies us a top 3 team in the East in the short term and has the potential to grow us into a contender in the long term.

Phase 1 Horford. Al Horford is going to be over paid. Many of us are right to worry that his final 2-3 years of his contract will be ugly  and while that may be an inevitability it's a reality that the best teams face. Signing Al would essentially cost us nothing in asetts so overpaying in this projected $90+ million cap is only a question whether or not Ownership is ready for years at the luxury tax. Meanwhile Horford fits our complexion as 4/5 who can play in space and marks the best FA signing in Boston history.

Phase 2 Bender. Philly gets #1 and takes Ben Simmons to finally solidify their core. Lakers get #2 and draft Brandon Ingram to replace Kobe's scoring void. Phoenix needs to save face, takes either Brown or Dunn and leaves us to take Dragan Bender, I've been consistent as to why I think Benders the pick in other threads but the cliff notes are that he has the highest upside outside the top 2, fits what's expected in a Brad Stevens 4/5, and allows the team another year to gel before he makes his way over. By the time he's ready to come over in 2017 we will have a better grasp of where to fit him in and who loses their spot.

Phase 3 Barnes. This one is probably the most controversial and admittedly is the scenario I'm least attached too but when I close my eyes and see us in the ECF Harrison Barnes is one of our starters. Barnes finally develops under Stevens putting up 19/8 on good percentages and solidfies our lineup as the Warriors or Spurs of the East. His BBIQ and skills are finally fully utilized and he and Horford form a dynamic pair.

Sorry for the long winded answer KGLL and thanks for making the fun topic.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2016, 06:10:43 AM by Smartacus »

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Based on the luck that the C's have had in the lottery in the previous drafts; I doubt that we get the 1st pick this year. We will probably end up getting around 4th or 5th pick.
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Re: Your Wish list roster next Year.
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2016, 10:32:22 AM »

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Going at this blind so if there are any issues apologies. The main points of my rebuild go like this, I'm assuming 1 tier below absolute perfection. I'm not assuming we land the first pick and I'm not assuming Kevin Durant signs here.

For the purposes of this rebuild going off the earth shattering scenario where Durant signs in Golden State and the likely scenario that Brooklyn nets us the 4th pick. Both of these paths IMO are not only plausible but likely. Durant to GS is the type of power house move that hasn't shook the league since Lebron chose Miami and Brooklyn's improvement has finally stalled after the Joe Johnson waive... too late to stop Phoenix from out tanking Brooklyn but just in time for them to retain the 4th worst record in the league. Where does this leave us. I'd argue in a great spot to capitalize.

My off-season can be broken down into 3 phases. Draft and stash Dragan Bender. Sign Al Horford to a 4 year Max. Sign Harrison Barnes to a max outside of GS's match range. As for the smaller moves...Let Sullinger Walk, resign Turner, don't pick up Johnson's option. Resign Zeller to a modest deal. Keep Jerebko if we can.

These scenarios are going to be controversial to many but IMO solidifies us a top 3 team in the East in the short term and has the potential to grow us into a contender in the long term.

Phase 1 Horford. Al Horford is going to be over paid. Many of us are right to worry that his final 2-3 years of his contract will be ugly  and while that may be an inevitability it's a reality that the best teams face. Signing Al would essentially cost us nothing in asetts so overpaying in this projected $90+ million cap is only a question whether or not Ownership is ready for years at the luxury tax. Meanwhile Horford fits our complexion as 4/5 who can play in space and marks the best FA signing in Boston history.

Phase 2 Bender. Philly gets #1 and takes Ben Simmons to finally solidify their core. Lakers get #2 and draft Brandon Ingram to replace Kobe's scoring void. Phoenix needs to save face, takes either Brown or Dunn and leaves us to take Dragan Bender, I've been consistent as to why I think Benders the pick in other threads but the cliff notes are that he has the highest upside outside the top 2, fits what's expected in a Brad Stevens 4/5, and allows the team another year to gel before he makes his way over. By the time he's ready to come over in 2017 we will have a better grasp of where to fit him in and who loses their spot.

Phase 3 Barnes. This one is probably the most controversial and admittedly is the scenario I'm least attached too but when I close my eyes and see us in the ECF Harrison Barnes is one of our starters. Barnes finally develops under Stevens putting up 19/8 on good percentages and solidfies our lineup as the Warriors or Spurs of the East. His BBIQ and skills are finally fully utilized and he and Horford form a dynamic pair.

Sorry for the long winded answer KGLL and thanks for making the fun topic.

No offense, but Bender-delayed-by-a-few-years (see loco's thread asap) and Barnes-at-over-20-million (he's not Harden, he's average) and Horford-without-Durant (four years at upwards of 30 million for the steady decline of an already only very good but not great player) might be literally the worst outcome this summer. It would depress the bejeezuz out of me.

I like that you tried to do a dream roster without either Durant or Simmons, though. Here's my attempt at the same, with the added limit of no-Ingram, and an emphasis on dream, lol:

Divide up and distribute in two separate trades all three of the 2016 1sts + the 2017 Celtics/Nets 1st + the 2018 Nets 1st + the 2019 Memphis 1st to Philly and Chicago in whatever way that could get us both Noel and Butler without forking over any players except Amir and Jerebko. Re-sign Turner and Sullinger.

Noel
Crowder
Butler
Smart
Isaiah

Sullinger
Olynyk
Turner
Bradley
Rozier/Mickey/Hunter/Young/whoever

Not just small ball -- small and defensively ferocious ball, but with the mega-bonus of a legit elite defensive anchor. Positionless only in the middle of the lineup, with a pure-ish point guard and traditional-ish defense-first center. We'd have the best ball movement in the league this side of Oakland. We'd have good three point shooting at four spots (provided Smart continues to improve). Two shot creators and late-game closers. We'd challenge all the NBA records for forcing turnovers. We'd have four All-Defensive caliber starters, which is virtually unprecedented in NBA history, with only a small dropoff in defensive intensity when the starters sit. We'd have a chance-in-hell of disrupting Golden State enough to win four out of seven games, I think, which is the best it seems right now that a team can hope for in the next two or three years.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2016, 10:40:43 AM by Dino Pitino »
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Re: Dream roster for Celtics next year
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2016, 10:52:16 AM »

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A man can dream! That team would be so much fun to watch. I think i we land #1 we should trade it for either Cousins or Griffin in order to lure Durant.

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 Someone else do a dream roster! If you build it they will come.

Re: Dream roster for Celtics next year
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My dream team. Trade everyone and get: Curry, Thompson, leonard, KD, and AD. No need for a bench, just play 3 people on the floor.

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My dream yet realistic Roster for next year :

Thomas Smart Vasquez
Middleton Bradley Hunter
Crowder Turner Brown
Anderson Olynyk Mickey
Horford Sully Hammons

Sign Ryan Anderson and Al Horford to max deals.
Trade 1 first (BOs or DAL) and 2 second and Rozier and Young and Jerebko and Amir and Zeller  for Middleton and Vasquez.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zjmo2t3

A draft Jaylen Brown with Nets pick and AJ Hammons with the other 1st rd pick or early 2nd pick depending on where he stands by draft night.

Line ups :

Defense : Bradley Smart Middleton Brown Crowder Mickey Horford Hammons
Offense : Thomas Bradley Middleton Anderson Olynyk Horford
Rebound : Smart Brown Crowder Sully Hammons
Creating : Thomas Vasquez Turner Middleton Anderson Olynyk Horford
3pt shooting : Thomas Bradley Hunter Middleton Crowder Anderson Olynyk Horford
Clunch basket needed : Thomas Bradley Turner Middleton Crowder Anderson Kelly Horford
 

Keeping most of our core, adding missing pieces and going after Toronto to claim 2nd best team in the east until Cleveland falls off and clears our way to the finals...

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My dream yet realistic Roster for next year :

Thomas Smart Vasquez
Middleton Bradley Hunter
Crowder Turner Brown
Anderson Olynyk Mickey
Horford Sully Hammons

Sign Ryan Anderson and Al Horford to max deals.
Trade 1 first (BOs or DAL) and 2 second and Rozier and Young and Jerebko and Amir and Zeller  for Middleton and Vasquez.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zjmo2t3

A draft Jaylen Brown with Nets pick and AJ Hammons with the other 1st rd pick or early 2nd pick depending on where he stands by draft night.

Line ups :

Defense : Bradley Smart Middleton Brown Crowder Mickey Horford Hammons
Offense : Thomas Bradley Middleton Anderson Olynyk Horford
Rebound : Smart Brown Crowder Sully Hammons
Creating : Thomas Vasquez Turner Middleton Anderson Olynyk Horford
3pt shooting : Thomas Bradley Hunter Middleton Crowder Anderson Olynyk Horford
Clunch basket needed : Thomas Bradley Turner Middleton Crowder Anderson Kelly Horford
 

Keeping most of our core, adding missing pieces and going after Toronto to claim 2nd best team in the east until Cleveland falls off and clears our way to the finals...
Max deal for Anderson? Don't expect max contracts to be given out so friverously; as the cap has already gone up.

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I hope Sullinger has taken his talents and his defense, eating habits and conditioning elsewhere,.

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I hope Sullinger has taken his talents and his defense, eating habits and conditioning elsewhere,.
Yeah, we know. You have made that pretty clear over the last few years
 ;) ;D LOL!!

Yeah, I agree. We can spend our money better than giving $14-16 million a year to Sully for the next 4 years. I love his rebounding and passing and his effort this year and in his rookie year. But his offense has digressed over those four years. His shooting is atrocious. And yes, he should be in much better physical condition than he is.

Its time to move on from Sully, but, I could see a scenario where they resign him because the FA market dried up and so the C's resigned him with the knowledge that he would immediately go on the trade block if he shows up over specified physical goals which Sullinger must maintain.

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I think there is a chance for
-Trade top 2 Nets pick, C's first, Nets 2018, AJ and Rozier for Cousins.
-Trade Philly pick, Wolves pick and JJ for Porter.
Wiz do the trade because KD will need them to also have Hordford to go there. They are short for two max deals since they have Morris. Like DA did with Cavs he helps Wiz. Wiz five is nasty Wall, Beal, KD, Hordford, Gortat. Oh well we boost the bench and replace Turner.

-C's draft Beasley with Dallas first.
-C's draft euros stash players with the rest of their seconds.
-C's sign Ryan Anderson 3 years $14million per.
-C's resign Zeller 3 years 15 million total. One year player opt out.

It's not a super team but it's probably top 3 in the East and better than Raptors.

IT/Smart/Marcus Thornton
AB/Hunter/Malik Beasley
Crowder/Porter/Young
Anderson/KO/Mickey
Cousins/Zeller