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Re: Has Smart Improved?
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2016, 08:12:43 PM »

Offline mgent

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Right, because nobody on this board ever doubted say, Rondo or Tony Allen when they were hampered with injuries, just to be proven wrong at a later date.

Are injuries a valid for disregarding Smart has performed through his first 100 games?  It hasn't been all bad, after all.  He just hasn't looked like a future two-way star scorer type.

No, I certainly wouldn't entirely disregard Smart's first 100 games due to his injuries.

I would, however, take them with that exact grain of salt.

He hasn't looked like a future two-way star, but he also hasn't looked like a future one-way only player.

That alone is saying a lot (most of the NBA's best defenders were one-way players).

Regardless, he's a future defensive star no matter what.

I think his ability to take it to the basket, while still reading the defense, will open up his offensive game, even if he never becomes a "good" shooter (and I don't think that's definitely out of the question).

When I think of Smart's prime, I think of a Ron Artest type prime.
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Re: Has Smart Improved?
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2016, 08:20:19 PM »

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Don't know if he's improved as much as become more comfortable with how he can contribute. He's had some great games and learned some player tendencies. He is starting to realize his limitations and how to cut back on things that are outside of his wheel house.

Some times he can get in his own head and pick up bad fouls but that's probably just a side effect of his overall tenacity.

Interestingly enough he's starting to get a bad reputation with opposing fan bases. Saw this Reddit thread the other day that was started after the T Wolves beat us.

Warning NSFW Language
https://www.reddit.com/r/timberwolves/comments/474r1e/wolves_win_****_the_celtics_upvote_party/
(Sorry for the link to work you have to replace the **** with a certain four letter word)

Some highlights...

"SMART IS PATHETIC!!!!!!!!"

"Smart is in the top 3 of my least favorite NBA players."

"**** YOU, MARCUS SMART! I HOPE SOMEDAY YOU ACTUALLY GET ELBOWED IN THE JAW AND IT DOESN'T GET CALLED BECAUSE OF YOUR REPUTATION OF FLOPPING LIKE A DAVID KAHN DRAFT PICK!"
I think having a bad "rep" with fans from other teams seems to be a good thing.
Agreed, don't think there's been many beloved defensive stoppers.
I think someone like Ben Wallace was pretty well liked but he's a bit of an outlier. But then it's easier for shot blockers to gain a fanbase outside their own teams because blocks are fun. Guys like Smart who play tough perimeter defense result in less highlights and more frustrating moments for opponents that, I think your right, casual fans hate and opponents don't like to give respect to.

As for Smart, I think he's smart enough and got enough skill that he's going to, eventually, find his niche. He'll never be a great offensive player but I see him as a guy who eventually finds his role, gets good at it, and averages something like 12-15 ppg.
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Re: Has Smart Improved?
« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2016, 08:34:49 PM »

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Yeah, without a doubt, defense at the rim is respected more than defense on the perimeter.

However, if you have elite defense against dribble penetration, defense at the rim is less important.
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Re: Has Smart Improved?
« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2016, 08:50:30 PM »

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Virtually every player has improved. This is what coach Stevens does.

Smart has improved
Sully has improved
Crowder has improved
IT has improved
Avery has improved
KO has improved
Jonas Jerebko has improved
Evan Turner has improved
RJ Hunter is doing fine and improving

Zeller...he has sorta gone sideways. He hasn't gotten much worse if at all. He's still sorta a competent NBA big

Amir...maybe a teeny tiny bit backwards maybe. Maybe. Next year he might be a bit better. Hard to say.

D Lee. Doesn't count

Terry Rozier....incomplete

Jordan Mickey...incomplete

James Young...hard to say. Yes and no.

Re: Has Smart Improved?
« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2016, 09:29:07 PM »

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The opponent reactions lately are reminding me of Artest.  Players don't like playing a guy that is stronger than them, plays harder than them, and is going to make contact basically every play.  That kind of guy wears you out and frustrates you.

Whiteside is a fragile guy who I can imagine is very easy to anger.   This is a guy that took out Kelly Olynyk lets keep in mind.
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