Do you remember KG trade rumors prior to him coming here?

[LarBrd33]

I was having a private discussion with someone about the validity of the fake "insiders" who troll RealGM forums.   Long story short, none of them have actual insider information.  That forum notoriously attracts trolls who make up plausible trade ideas and claim they heard them from "insiders" ... there's also dozens of twitter accounts who follow the same practice.  The moderators of that forum seemingly allow it without vetting the "insiders" and nobody dares call out these "insiders", because they are afraid they'll leave and stop giving them juicy gossip.

Anyways, the discussion got pretty heated and it was suggested that I see a neurologist.  The person I was talking to was adamant that a RealGM user knew about the KG trade before it happened and that was proof he had insider information despite the fact this particular "insider" hasn't correctly predicted anything of note in the decade since that KG trade.  It was suggested that the KG trade happened "out of nowhere" and the fact this RealGM forum predicted it before it happened proved he has connections.  Sadly, none of the pre-2008 RealGM forum posts are archived... so there's no way of seeing these actual magical predictions. 

Here's what I'm wondering...  Is my memory really that bad or were there KG trade rumors for a couple years prior to us finally getting him?  I vividly remember being on forums like these and seeing KG as the ideal trade target for the Celtics for a couple years prior to us pulling off the miracle.  He was the ultimate pipe dream... a top 5 superstar that was theoretically in a bad enough situation that someone would eventually pull off a trade for him.  Sure, we dabbled in possibly getting Allen Iverson, but KG was the one everyone wanted.    As far back as 2005, KG did this crying interview with John Thompson and it created an entire "Free KG" movement:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef-f7EeDpYI

Trade buzz started immediately.  Hard to find archived articles, but I seem to remember as far back as 2005, there were articles about the Knicks trying to trade for him to reunite him with Marbury:  http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/f7/espn-kevin-garnett-up-for-trade-early-trade-buzz-64364.html  ... The caveat was that the Wolves wouldn't trade KG without his permission and KG was too loyal to leave.

I seem to remember during the 2006 draft, the Bulls were rumored to be trading for KG. 

http://www.wissports.net/Playground/default.aspx?g=posts&t=412408

.... And correct me if I'm wrong, but during Summer 2007, wasn't there tremendous buildup and rumors prior to the Celtics getting KG?   He was rumored to be going to the Suns at one point for a package built around Amare.   He was very very close to going to the Lakers according to numerous sources.   Also, am I wrong, or didn't we try trading for KG for a trade built around the #5 pick, but he refused to waive his no-trade clause to join the CEltics?  We then pulled an audible, traded the pick for Ray, convinced KG he could form a big-3 here, and were still able to put together a package for him without the pick? 

Is my memory failing me on any of this?   The idea that some realgm poster said, "hey guys I have inside info that the Celtics are about to trade for Kevin Garnett" and it was met with skepticism for how outlandish it was... so much so that when KG actually came to Boston it cemented that RealGM poster's reputation as an "insider".... seems ridiculous to me.    Seems to me, it would have been very easy for someone to come up with a plausible trade KG trade idea during the Summer of 2007.  It's akin to someone right now saying, "my sources tell me that the Celtics and the Kings have a handshake agreement to trade Cousins to the Celtics this Summer for the Brooklyn pick, Amir's waivable contract, and Olynyk, but it's contingent on whether the Kings make the playoffs this year and if Rondo decides to stay in Sacramento"... It's completely made up, but plausible... and if it happens, I could then use it as proof that I'm an insider.

Anyways... does anyone else remember coming up with KG trade ideas in the years prior to him coming here or did I imagine it? 
 

[Celtics18]

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[Dino Pitino]

In the interest of completeness, and because it is grotesquely unfair and inappropriate for one party to selectively make a private discussion public not to mention misquote it, and because I believe this thread constitutes a type of harassment and so I will reporting LarBrd33 immediately after hitting Post, here is the entirety of that private discussion which the troll above is referring to, with only slight editing to better obscure some descriptive profanity, which I apologize for in advance. I will, uh, remove the names to protect the innocent, lol. I expect this thread to be locked/deleted soon, anyway.

if you reporting me gets me banned, I just want to say... thanks for the laughs.  I wish you the best.  I never actually intended on trolling... I just strongly disagree with some of things people say here.  I stand by everything I say, though.  Okafor was the target.  I wish we had landed him.  THat would have been awesome.

People with Andy Kaufman avatars who act just like trolls are almost always intending it when they troll. If you're one of the rare ones who trolls against his will without realizing it, then may god have mercy on your troubled soul.

The Andy Kaufman avatar was more a response to those calling me a troll.   Most of the things I say on here turns out to be accurate.  My opinions just rub some people the wrong way.

Btw, ddb isn't an insider.  Stop wasting your time on RealGM.   Ask someone to prove he's an insider and you'll see the mob on that forum freak out, "IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE HIM, LEAVE!!!  We are sooo sorry, ddb... please don't leave us... pleeeease".   It's ridiculous.  LarryBirdFinger pretends to be an insider too.  None of them have broken any news.   LBF is credited as a insider, because he correctly guessed we'd draft Olynyk even though twitter reports pinpointed Olynyk as a target long before LBF made his prediction.    Those guys also pretended Kevin Love was a done-deal last year and then leaned on the, "Wolves backed out last minute" nonsense after Love was traded elsewhere.   They are trolls.

So you get called a troll a lot, eh? Hmm. I wonder why.

I distinctly remember lurking on RealGM back when "ddb" first emerged, and the dude absolutely nailed the KG trade well before anyone else. It was not luck. The mods vetted him at the time, because there had been frauds there before, and the mods banned those frauds rather quickly, despite whatever increase in traffic, ahem. The mods have yet to ban "ddb" and it's nine years later. I imagine having his credibility doubted by the likes of you would get old at some point during those nine years. I doubt your urgent request for proof long after the fact merits more than a yawn from the mods. Who could probably smell your petty insider envy from a mile away, lol.

Funny then if ddb is such an insider that he's literally reported nothing of substance in the decade since the KG trade.   And no, he wasn't vetted.  And there was plenty of rumors about KG to Lakers or Boston prior to KG being traded to Boston.   It wouldn't have taken an insider to guess Boston was making offers for him... plenty of people had created that trade idea well before it happened.   That's how most of those trolls operate... they follow twitter, they look at salary situations, they consider what teams are making moves and what teams want... and come up with trade ideas that would make sense.   Anyone paying any attention could have guessed that Kevin Love would be traded... and yet the realGM trolls assured everyone that Love to Boston was a done deal.  They were wrong.

How would you possibly know they didn't vet him? Or are you just assuming that they didn't in order to fit your RealGM conspiracy theory? Your claim is that they were lying at the time when they told the board that he had proved his creds via private message?

I know they didn't vet him, because when I've visited that forums I saw people essentially blowing insiders like ddb and larrybirdsfinger.  I asked some of those fanboys why they believed they were insiders and they told me the same thing, "well i think he may have been the first to report the KG trade", but none of them had any actual first-hand knowledge of it.  You're possibly the first I've talked to who claims he was actually there when it happened.  I think asked two different mods and neither could confirm either of those guys were insiders.  None of them had proof.  They just let the little circus continue, because that forum has no integrity. 

Also think about what you're even telling me...   DDB calls up Sam Hinkie.  "Yo Sam, it's me DDb from RealGm.. your homie who leaks all your insider info on the most popular NBA blog in the world for all to see...   So hey, I hear Ainge tried trading the Brooklyn 1st for Okafor.  This true?"

Sam:  "Nah, ddb... that's false, brah.  I tapped Danny's phone and he be going after Jimmy Butter.  They just be usin Okafor as a smoke screen, son.   Bulpett be straight trippin, yo.  He's Danny's media boy.  Don't believe none of that.  Let those dawgs on realgm know the troof, son" 

Dumb.

Not just a claim, I was very much there watching it all happen. Exciting times, you missed out. That m*********er electrified the place, because he knew the trade was happening, he knew what was being traded, he knew when it was happening. The mods were skeptical of him, announced they were going to vet him, and came back slack-jawed to pronounce him legit. From what could be ascertained from the outside, he was from Concord and was bros from high school with one of the Prestis. I vaguely remember him nailing a few more minor moves in the years since, but for the most part he just speculates now like every other fan and doesn't pretend otherwise, except for when he hears something, which is rarely solid info now, just murmurs. Perhaps he also embellishes, who knows. What I do know, as much as can be known by someone who witnessed it, is that he legitimately nailed the KG trade and obviously had some kind of inside info. You wonder why fanboys fellate him and defend him to this day, that's why.

The mods have changed quite a bit since 2007, and even if you were talking to any who were mods at the time, do you realize how many freaking times they've probably been approached for the exact same ****? You think the 1,486th time they're asked for proof that the board insiders are real is finally going to result in the goods because this time the notorious troll [name redacted] from a rival forum is asking, lol? Get real.

You don't seem to understand how gossip works.

The mods more or less told me "others think he's legit so we assume he's legit"... and when you asked the others, they'd say "well someone else told me he's legit so I assume he is"... nobody can actually vouch for him.  And if he got the KG trade right, it's because he saw it rumored elsewhere and passed it along as his own info.

Again, in the summer of 2007, when he first emerged, he was hardly believed. Then the mods vetted him. That *****ng happened. The mods made him prove who he was and who his source was. The very surprised mods then reported to the board that the vetting took place, and that he was legit. Then the *****ng KG trade happened exactly like he said it would, exactly when he said it would, and let me make this absolutely *****ng clear: NO ONE ELSE WAS RUMORING IT. You like to make a whole lot of assumptions about **** that you admittedly have no *****ng clue about. You obviously didn't talk to all that many people if I'm "possibly" the first person to tell you that I saw that **** happen with my own eyes. Every person who regularly read the RealGM board back then should remember that time like it was yesterday. It was the most exciting moment to be a Celtics message board junkie ever. Maybe you've only talked to two people. Maybe you haven't talked to anyone else. You're clearly a g*****ned assumption-making machine, so I wouldn't be shocked if you just assumed that conversations took place between you and RealGM mods simply because you wanted them to take place. Here's one you should ask, if you actually give a **** about what actually happened: Darth Celtic. I think he's a retired mod now, maybe you can PM him. He is the least bul*****ty RealGM member I've ever read, the anti-bul*****

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dude you believed because you wanted to believe.  Bottom line.  Like someone who goes to a psychic stage show and decides the guy is legit when he says "someone in the audience has a relative with a name beginning in J... I sense something amiss" and you're like "holy crap my uncle jimmy had hemroids!! This is magic !" 

There were rumblings about KG being traded for a full year before they happened.  Months before the trade went down we were trying to trade the lotto pick for him.  KG refused to come to Boston so the Celtics called an audible and traded the lotto pick for Ray Allen ... We then built a package around al Jefferson.

There's no way anyone predicted it would go down exactly like that.  We were speculating the Celtics would trade for KG over a year before it happened, so it wouldn't at all be difficult for someone to make that prediction under the illusion they had insider information.   Show me the actual posts where ddb made predictions that predate common knowledge or accept that you're wrong and your guru is a fraud.   You should know this already, though based on the fact he's not successfully predicted a single thing since that educated guess.

Wow, so I was just fooled like a moron who believes in psychics and did not actually witness what I witnessed. Gee, thanks for setting me straight. I wonder why everyone despises you.

There were never any "rumblings" about KG to Boston.

The old RealGM threads are not archived, they disappear down the memory hole. But I was there and I remember. I will not accept that I am wrong, because I am not wrong. I will not lift a finger to prove anything to you, because you are not worth it. He's not my guru, I don't give a flying **** about him. I just remember something happening that you wish did not happen.

FYI, DDB's realgm profile shows he didn't even join until May 2007 and made his first post on Jan 2008... so there's that.

Great, lol, so now you're insinuating that I hallucinated the summer of 2007.

You are deranged. Seek assistance from psychologists, therapists, neurologists, somebody, whatever. Do not *****ng message me again, or I will consider it harassment and I will report you again.