Ainge's Draft Record since trading of Big Three

[tankcity!]

I have to say, Ainge's draft picks haven't really panned out so far since he broke up the Big 3. He picked KO over the greak freak, which at the time I thought was really dumb. Smart looks like a role player. I personally preferred Randle and Saric at the time. We don't know about Saric, but I think we can conclude Randle is better since he is averaging a double double and this is his rookie year. James Young is a bust and he could've drafted Rodney Hood. He also drafted Rozier, who hasn't done anything, Hunter, and Mickey. Maybe Mickey will be decent...The rest haven't done anything. And TBH, both Rozier and Hunter are older rookies so they should make an impact their first year. In my experience, you can usually tell if someone is good their rookie year. I mean it's not like this current roster is stacked. There is an open window for Rozier and Hunter. Both had chances, and both sucked. Especially Hunter, who couldn't shoot.

Maybe it's too early to tell, but I think it is time to start putting some heat on Ainge. The guy receives no pressure from the fans or media. This trade deadline, he did nothing and people are saying he is saving it for the summer? Are people here serious? Did they not see what happened last summer? The only thing I know is the mystery team at this current deadline backed out. That means they didn't want what Ainge was offering. That's it. And please do not bring Thomas into this. That guy is a product of Steven's system and is not even the third banana on a championship team. Just put Shumpert on him and he'll get destroyed.

Thoughts.

[Denis998]

there is no open window for any of our rookies and young this season. Smart, KO, and Sully were great picks.

[tankcity!]

there is no open window for any of our rookies and young this season. Smart, KO, and Sully were great picks.

Disagree, Hunter was actually in the rotation earlier in the season and didn't produce...Same with Rozier. He was given an opportunity.

Sully was pre big three breakup so he doesn't count. Also, like I said, Ainge missed out on the Greak Freak so I wouldn't get too excited about KO.

As for Smart, what does he bring to the table exactly? He is literally the same thing as Tony Allen. That sucks for a sixth overall pick. I would much rather have Randle of Saric.

[jpotter33]

I have to say, Ainge's draft picks haven't really panned out so far since he broke up the Big 3. He picked KO over the greak freak, which at the time I thought was really dumb. Smart looks like a role player. I personally preferred Randle and Saric at the time. We don't know about Saric, but I think we can conclude Randle is better since he is averaging a double double and this is his rookie year. James Young is a bust and he could've drafted Rodney Hood. He also drafted Rozier, who hasn't done anything, Hunter, and Mickey. Maybe Mickey will be decent...The rest haven't done anything. And TBH, both Rozier and Hunter are older rookies so they should make an impact their first year. In my experience, you can usually tell if someone is good their rookie year. I mean it's not like this current roster is stacked. There is an open window for Rozier and Hunter. Both had chances, and both sucked. Especially Hunter, who couldn't shoot.

Maybe it's too early to tell, but I think it is time to start putting some heat on Ainge. The guy receives no pressure from the fans or media. This trade deadline, he did nothing and people are saying he is saving it for the summer? Are people here serious? Did they not see what happened last summer? The only thing I know is the mystery team at this current deadline backed out. That means they didn't want what Ainge was offering. That's it. And please do not bring Thomas into this. That guy is a product of Steven's system and is not even the third banana on a championship team. Just put Shumpert on him and he'll get destroyed.

Thoughts.

That thing called context, though....

[hwangjini_1]

why start a thread that judges players who have not played many minutes and therefore are impossible to judge? at best, it is premature to issue such blanket statements about the players.

i dont see any nuanced assessment in terms of where in the draft the players were selected either. nor do i see any mention of olly, whom we all know has turned out well so far. instead, you simply bring up a player whose name you seem to have trouble spelling.

[tankcity!]

I have to say, Ainge's draft picks haven't really panned out so far since he broke up the Big 3. He picked KO over the greak freak, which at the time I thought was really dumb. Smart looks like a role player. I personally preferred Randle and Saric at the time. We don't know about Saric, but I think we can conclude Randle is better since he is averaging a double double and this is his rookie year. James Young is a bust and he could've drafted Rodney Hood. He also drafted Rozier, who hasn't done anything, Hunter, and Mickey. Maybe Mickey will be decent...The rest haven't done anything. And TBH, both Rozier and Hunter are older rookies so they should make an impact their first year. In my experience, you can usually tell if someone is good their rookie year. I mean it's not like this current roster is stacked. There is an open window for Rozier and Hunter. Both had chances, and both sucked. Especially Hunter, who couldn't shoot.

Maybe it's too early to tell, but I think it is time to start putting some heat on Ainge. The guy receives no pressure from the fans or media. This trade deadline, he did nothing and people are saying he is saving it for the summer? Are people here serious? Did they not see what happened last summer? The only thing I know is the mystery team at this current deadline backed out. That means they didn't want what Ainge was offering. That's it. And please do not bring Thomas into this. That guy is a product of Steven's system and is not even the third banana on a championship team. Just put Shumpert on him and he'll get destroyed.

Thoughts.

That thing called context, though....

How so? Randle would have more value in the open market. Dude is averaging a double double. What am I missing? What has smart done this year? I saw him get burned by Paul George and Hayward tonight. Like the dude isn't even a starter.

[tankcity!]

why start a thread that judges players who have not played many minutes and therefore are impossible to judge? at best, it is premature to issue such blanket statements about the players.

i dont see any nuanced assessment in terms of where in the draft the players were selected either. nor do i see any mention of olly, whom we all know has turned out well so far. instead, you simply bring up a player whose name you seem to have trouble spelling.

Why the hate? I thought my post was insightful. Second, I can judge your crappy sentences too. You didn't capitalize instead, you didn't put an apostrophe after don't.

Back to the point. Yes, I am judging players early I guess, but I'm doing it because I want to call it out before anyone else does. What I see on this team is bad draft picks. That is what my eyes are telling me.

[SparzWizard]

there is no open window for any of our rookies and young this season. Smart, KO, and Sully were great picks.

Disagree, Hunter was actually in the rotation earlier in the season and didn't produce...Same with Rozier. He was given an opportunity.

Sully was pre big three breakup so he doesn't count. Also, like I said, Ainge missed out on the Greak Freak so I wouldn't get too excited about KO.

As for Smart, what does he bring to the table exactly? He is literally the same thing as Tony Allen. That sucks for a sixth overall pick. I would much rather have Randle of Saric.

But to be exact, Ray Allen was gone when Sullinger started getting his first minutes as a Celtics. So therefore, it was the Big 2 lol.

[Denis998]

There is no doubt in my mind that Smart is a better player than Randle, as there are two sides on the court, and Smart has proven to be elite on one end all ready. Also, it seems as if Randle had a great time this season being the back up to Larry Nance. You keep saying DA missed out on a player, but so did 18 other teams. Who knew Giannis would grow like 6 inches after being drafted. All the players that we supposedly missed out on are products of the teams systems that drafted them, and not of their previous basketball accomplishments. Its not like players are complete as they get drafted, they grow into certain roles and thrive.

[sawick48]

I have to say, Ainge's draft picks haven't really panned out so far since he broke up the Big 3. He picked KO over the greak freak, which at the time I thought was really dumb. Smart looks like a role player. I personally preferred Randle and Saric at the time. We don't know about Saric, but I think we can conclude Randle is better since he is averaging a double double and this is his rookie year. James Young is a bust and he could've drafted Rodney Hood. He also drafted Rozier, who hasn't done anything, Hunter, and Mickey. Maybe Mickey will be decent...The rest haven't done anything. And TBH, both Rozier and Hunter are older rookies so they should make an impact their first year. In my experience, you can usually tell if someone is good their rookie year. I mean it's not like this current roster is stacked. There is an open window for Rozier and Hunter. Both had chances, and both sucked. Especially Hunter, who couldn't shoot.

Maybe it's too early to tell, but I think it is time to start putting some heat on Ainge. The guy receives no pressure from the fans or media. This trade deadline, he did nothing and people are saying he is saving it for the summer? Are people here serious? Did they not see what happened last summer? The only thing I know is the mystery team at this current deadline backed out. That means they didn't want what Ainge was offering. That's it. And please do not bring Thomas into this. That guy is a product of Steven's system and is not even the third banana on a championship team. Just put Shumpert on him and he'll get destroyed.

Thoughts.

The knock on Danny has been the drafting forever.  Great, creative guy with trading, but mediocre at best when it comes to using the picks on rookies. 

The history speaks for itself.  For every relative success like Al J in 04 and Bradley in 2010 there seems to be many more Giddens over DeAndre Jordan (08), MarShon Brooks/Jujuan Johnson over Jimmy Butler/Cory Joseph (2011), Kelly over Giannis/Muhammad/Dieng (2013), or even Rozier over Portis this past draft

[tankcity!]

there is no open window for any of our rookies and young this season. Smart, KO, and Sully were great picks.

Disagree, Hunter was actually in the rotation earlier in the season and didn't produce...Same with Rozier. He was given an opportunity.

Sully was pre big three breakup so he doesn't count. Also, like I said, Ainge missed out on the Greak Freak so I wouldn't get too excited about KO.

As for Smart, what does he bring to the table exactly? He is literally the same thing as Tony Allen. That sucks for a sixth overall pick. I would much rather have Randle of Saric.

But to be exact, Ray Allen was gone when Sullinger started getting his first minutes as a Celtics. So therefore, it was the Big 2 lol.

Fab Melo was taken literally next in that draft so I consider it a wash.

[tankcity!]

There is no doubt in my mind that Smart is a better player than Randle, as there are two sides on the court, and Smart has proven to be elite on one end all ready. Also, it seems as if Randle had a great time this season being the back up to Larry Nance. You keep saying DA missed out on a player, but so did 18 other teams. Who knew Giannis would grow like 6 inches after being drafted. All the players that we supposedly missed out on are products of the teams systems that drafted them, and not of their previous basketball accomplishments. Its not like players are complete as they get drafted, they grow into certain roles and thrive.

I have to disagree about Randle. He is averaging a double double and shooting higher than Smarts rookie year for %. Imagine how good Randle would look on the celtics with Stevens?  Are you saying Smart will be a future DPOY? If not, then he should be considered a role player like Tony Allen because his offensive game is bad. Also, this is the most athletic he will ever be. Think about that.

[KG Living Legend]

 Tp Tankcity for talking draft miss, hits and such. I wanted Randle at the time, he is more exciting to watch for me and I love guys that play Bully ball and he does that.
 That said, the case can certainly be made Smart impacts winning games more than Randle. They both shoot horrible percentages, Marcus is worse but .416% is really bad for a PF.

 They play the same amount of minutes at 27 per game.

 Randle 10.9 ppg 9.8 rpg  1.7 apg .6 spg

 Smart 10 ppg     4 rpg     3 apg   1.7 spg

 SMart can guard three positions at a near elite level already Randle can sometimes guard a power forward and thats it.

 I think the other major factor was Smart's leadership and toughness. Time will tell, right now I'll take Smart and his horrible offense.

[Sketch5]

Smart was drafted over Randle because we had Sully and KO already. DA new he was moving Rondo, so needed to bring in a replacement.

Smart also has a stronger winning attitude, and has been said that was the deciding factor between the two.

And didn't Randle skip the second work out, most likely because of a promise from the Lakers.

I don't think it's heads and toes between the two. The biggest strength of Smart is he can help change a game with his D, and had done that many times. But thats not sexy to some and doesn't show up in the stats for the stat nerds to drool over.

[loco_91]

I have to say, Ainge's draft picks haven't really panned out so far since he broke up the Big 3. He picked KO over the greak freak, which at the time I thought was really dumb. Smart looks like a role player. I personally preferred Randle and Saric at the time. We don't know about Saric, but I think we can conclude Randle is better since he is averaging a double double and this is his rookie year. James Young is a bust and he could've drafted Rodney Hood. He also drafted Rozier, who hasn't done anything, Hunter, and Mickey. Maybe Mickey will be decent...The rest haven't done anything. And TBH, both Rozier and Hunter are older rookies so they should make an impact their first year. In my experience, you can usually tell if someone is good their rookie year. I mean it's not like this current roster is stacked. There is an open window for Rozier and Hunter. Both had chances, and both sucked. Especially Hunter, who couldn't shoot.

Maybe it's too early to tell, but I think it is time to start putting some heat on Ainge. The guy receives no pressure from the fans or media. This trade deadline, he did nothing and people are saying he is saving it for the summer? Are people here serious? Did they not see what happened last summer? The only thing I know is the mystery team at this current deadline backed out. That means they didn't want what Ainge was offering. That's it. And please do not bring Thomas into this. That guy is a product of Steven's system and is not even the third banana on a championship team. Just put Shumpert on him and he'll get destroyed.

Thoughts.

I agree with none of this, especially about Smart vs Randle, and about IT.