Zach Lowe: C's "recoiled" at price for Dwight,may still have interest....

[Vermont Green]

If a team signs Howard for 5 years/$30M per, I predict that they will regret it before the end of the first year.  I pray it is not the Celtics.  I don't want to rent Howard and I sure don't want to buy Howard at that price.

[blink]

oh man please no DH, especially for big bucks

[walker834]

Isaiah, Smart Crowder, Howard is a good 4.  There has to be some luke warm interest here although I wonder how much.  It's probably a 5 or a 6 on the seriousness level.  Howard is a once great center who appears to be declining and losing interest around the league rapidly.  He'll probably end up on a contender somewhere but not here.

[JBcat]

I guess if we got Howard I would be more willing to use the Nets pick to land Love.  That could be quite the tandem.

[Donoghus]

As in, if we trade for Horward, I can see Olynyk/Amir/Jerebko being moved before Sullinger/Zeller because those former assets should be more attractive to Houston in a trade.

There is ZERO chance Ainge trades Olynyk for Howard. Less than zero.

huh? that's silly . At best KO is a 7th man type on a contender. I would have no problem moving him for Howard .

I don't know what to tell you. You're just way off. You don't understand how strongly the Cs disagree with you.

Source?

[esel1000]

DA isn't dumb enough to offer Howard 30m a year...the only way he trades for him is if he can get him for a lowball offer and try to sign him for cheaper money. He'd probably let D12 walk before paying him that kind of money, and if you get him for pennies on the dollar no big. Chances are he doesn't get that offer anywhere else and stays anyway.

I hope we don't get him though... I'm really not one to use this term loosely with a player but Howard really is a loser. Quitters mentality and it's never his fault, so he runs instead of trying to improve. Now add injuries to it. Just not a great guy...

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

$30 million per for Dwight?

Puh-lease.

[csfansince60s]

 I would be very surprised if Dwight Howard to us actually happened.

Morey  is a tight ass and very stubborn and prideful to the detriment of his organization. He has let many players of value walk away and got nothing for them because of his  stubbornness.

I can see him doing the same for Howard. I doubt that he trades him for small assets especially to Ainge.

[aingeforthree]

Isn't a deadline deal made in order for you to get better ? Dwight Howard makes this team better, & far better IMO. So does Al Horford.

I'm not seeing the problem here. Do you not want to go for it ? I don't know if we beat Cleveland, but with either player, we have a legit shot or at least give them a scare.

[ahonui06]

As in, if we trade for Horward, I can see Olynyk/Amir/Jerebko being moved before Sullinger/Zeller because those former assets should be more attractive to Houston in a trade.

There is ZERO chance Ainge trades Olynyk for Howard. Less than zero.

huh? that's silly . At best KO is a 7th man type on a contender. I would have no problem moving him for Howard .

Straight up everyone makes that trade haha

[ssspence]

As in, if we trade for Horward, I can see Olynyk/Amir/Jerebko being moved before Sullinger/Zeller because those former assets should be more attractive to Houston in a trade.

There is ZERO chance Ainge trades Olynyk for Howard. Less than zero.

huh? that's silly . At best KO is a 7th man type on a contender. I would have no problem moving him for Howard .

I don't know what to tell you. You're just way off. You don't understand how strongly the Cs disagree with you.

Source?

Not disclosable (not that I need one to address this one). Proof is in the pudding. Short of a superstar (of which Howard is certainly not one), Ainge is not moving Olynyk. Internally, he's in the discussion for the most valued player as an asset on the roster.

[ssspence]

As in, if we trade for Horward, I can see Olynyk/Amir/Jerebko being moved before Sullinger/Zeller because those former assets should be more attractive to Houston in a trade.

There is ZERO chance Ainge trades Olynyk for Howard. Less than zero.

huh? that's silly . At best KO is a 7th man type on a contender. I would have no problem moving him for Howard .

Straight up everyone makes that trade haha

Wrong. Because you assume that everyone (including the Cs) would want Howard long term. And the vast majority of franchises don't or won't.

It's not fantasy sports. In the real world, teams care a great deal about cost, value, risk, flexibility, fit, etc. The stronger franchises will avoid Howard like the plague this summer. And that's why the market for him is limited.

That said, I think the Cs have interest in Howard for Sullinger, pick(s), or maybe both.

[rondohondo]

As in, if we trade for Horward, I can see Olynyk/Amir/Jerebko being moved before Sullinger/Zeller because those former assets should be more attractive to Houston in a trade.

There is ZERO chance Ainge trades Olynyk for Howard. Less than zero.

huh? that's silly . At best KO is a 7th man type on a contender. I would have no problem moving him for Howard .

Straight up everyone makes that trade haha

Wrong. Because you assume that everyone (including the Cs) would want Howard long term. And the vast majority of franchises don't or won't.

It's not fantasy sports. In the real world, teams worry about cost, value, risk, fit, etc. The stronger franchises will avoid Howard like the plague this summer. And that's why the market for him is limited.

the salary cap for next year is 92 mil

currently the c's have 27 mil on the books for next year(according to hoopshype) . They could easily fit Howard and another max under the salary cap . Possibly even a 3rd max....

No other playoff team can offer 2 max contracts .

if we could get him for a relatively cheap offer, i don't see the problem of giving him a close to max contract.

[ssspence]

As in, if we trade for Horward, I can see Olynyk/Amir/Jerebko being moved before Sullinger/Zeller because those former assets should be more attractive to Houston in a trade.

There is ZERO chance Ainge trades Olynyk for Howard. Less than zero.

huh? that's silly . At best KO is a 7th man type on a contender. I would have no problem moving him for Howard .

Straight up everyone makes that trade haha

Wrong. Because you assume that everyone (including the Cs) would want Howard long term. And the vast majority of franchises don't or won't.

It's not fantasy sports. In the real world, teams worry about cost, value, risk, fit, etc. The stronger franchises will avoid Howard like the plague this summer. And that's why the market for him is limited.

the salary cap for next year is 92 mil

currently the c's have 27 mil on the books for next year . They could easily fit Howard and another max under the salary cap .

No other playoff team can offer 2 max contracts .

if we could get him for a relatively cheap offer, i don't see the problem of giving him a close to max contract.

the cap is incidental. the question is whether the Cs care to lock up Howard long term. that's it. and this discussion is assumes they do, which i totally disagree with.

[mef730]

As in, if we trade for Horward, I can see Olynyk/Amir/Jerebko being moved before Sullinger/Zeller because those former assets should be more attractive to Houston in a trade.

There is ZERO chance Ainge trades Olynyk for Howard. Less than zero.

huh? that's silly . At best KO is a 7th man type on a contender. I would have no problem moving him for Howard .

Straight up everyone makes that trade haha

Wrong. Because you assume that everyone (including the Cs) would want Howard long term. And the vast majority of franchises don't or won't.

It's not fantasy sports. In the real world, teams worry about cost, value, risk, fit, etc. The stronger franchises will avoid Howard like the plague this summer. And that's why the market for him is limited.

the salary cap for next year is 92 mil

currently the c's have 27 mil on the books for next year(according to hoopshype) . They could easily fit Howard and another max under the salary cap . Possibly even a 3rd max....

No other playoff team can offer 2 max contracts .

if we could get him for a relatively cheap offer, i don't see the problem of giving him a close to max contract.

You're braver than I am. A 30-year old malcontent big man with a history of injuries and a bad influence in the locker room? No way I'm giving him close to a max.

Mike