Carmelo Anthony

[GryphMinuteMan]

http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/isola-carmelo-knicks-trade-article-1.2519555?utm_content=buffer57aa7&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDNSports+Twitter

I have a hard time seeing Phil and the Knicks trading melo to the Celtics but we have the assets that they would want. I can see ainge loving the idea of getting melo here. Then brining in gasol or horford and really going for it.

[Monkhouse]

Eh. No thanks on Melo. Jackson is not going to let him go for cheap.

Would like to go after someone like Bradley Beal, or Howard where their value is extremely low, and they are RFA/UFA so they don't tie into our cap space too much.

[Quetzalcoatl]

The article it links to says Melo to Boston for Avery Bradley, David Lee and a non-Brooklyn pick, which is absurd value and I'd do it in a heartbeat.  Check that out here: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/carmelo-anthony-trade-scenarios-work-article-1.2520047

However, if we had to give up say Ben Simmons, Brandon Ingram, Kelly Olynyk, Smart, IT or Jae, I'd turn it down.  He would immediately make us Eastern Conference contenders, but we'd still probably get beat down by the Cavs and there is basically no way we're beating the Warriors or Spurs.  We're the 3rd seed in the East right now without him, so adding him would be a huge boost.  But would it really be enough of a boost to make us ahead of the Cavs?

Carmelo Anthony....

1.) is 31 years old
2.) is not enough for a Knicks team with Porzingis, Afflalo, Lopez, Derrick Williams and Phil Jackson to make the 8th seed when they're all healthy
3.) has a no trade kicker in his contract that will increase his salary way past his production
4.) will not make us title contenders
5.) will cost a lot of assets
6.) is married to someone who wants him to live in NYC
7.) also wants to live in NYC
8.) is unable to attract other FAs to New York of all places, so it's very unlikely to think he will do it in Boston
9.) sells tickets for the Knicks while allowing them to tank and bank assets like Porzingis

So if it's Bradley, Lee, Rozier, Young, Celtics Pick 2016 and Celtics Pick 2018, then sure.  I don't think that's enough for the Knicks, though. 

Also, it would be kind of miserable to sign him and Horford, then still be a 3 seed in the East at the end of the day, but with $50 million going to 2 players with the new cap.

[Surferdad]

Here we go with the "Melo to the Celtics" thread of the month. Phil Jackson in his right mind (and that's always debatable) should jump at the chance to get, for example, Marcus Smart and a high pick for Melo. That would jump start their rebuilding process.  It would also set back the Celtics rebuilding by many years.

[GryphMinuteMan]

The article it links to says Melo to Boston for Avery Bradley, David Lee and a non-Brooklyn pick, which is absurd value and I'd do it in a heartbeat.  Check that out here: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/carmelo-anthony-trade-scenarios-work-article-1.2520047

However, if we had to give up say Ben Simmons, Brandon Ingram, Kelly Olynyk, Smart, IT or Jae, I'd turn it down.  He would immediately make us Eastern Conference contenders, but we'd still probably get beat down by the Cavs and there is basically no way we're beating the Warriors or Spurs.  We're the 3rd seed in the East right now without him, so adding him would be a huge boost.  But would it really be enough of a boost to make us ahead of the Cavs?

Carmelo Anthony....

1.) is 31 years old
2.) is not enough for a Knicks team with Porzingis, Afflalo, Lopez, Derrick Williams and Phil Jackson to make the 8th seed when they're all healthy
3.) has a no trade kicker in his contract that will increase his salary way past his production
4.) will not make us title contenders
5.) will cost a lot of assets
6.) is married to someone who wants him to live in NYC
7.) also wants to live in NYC
8.) is unable to attract other FAs to New York of all places, so it's very unlikely to think he will do it in Boston
9.) sells tickets for the Knicks while allowing them to tank and bank assets like Porzingis

So if it's Bradley, Lee, Rozier, Young, Celtics Pick 2016 and Celtics Pick 2018, then sure.  I don't think that's enough for the Knicks, though. 

Also, it would be kind of miserable to sign him and Horford, then still be a 3 seed in the East at the end of the day, but with $50 million going to 2 players with the new cap.

100% agree with all of this. Great post.

[GryphMinuteMan]

Here we go with the "Melo to the Celtics" thread of the month. Phil Jackson in his right mind (and that's always debatable) should jump at the chance to get, for example, Marcus Smart and a high pick for Melo. That would jump start their rebuilding process.  It would also set back the Celtics rebuilding by many years.

Just thought the article was interesting by a credible source. No need to get p---y.

[esel1000]

The article it links to says Melo to Boston for Avery Bradley, David Lee and a non-Brooklyn pick, which is absurd value and I'd do it in a heartbeat.  Check that out here: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/carmelo-anthony-trade-scenarios-work-article-1.2520047

However, if we had to give up say Ben Simmons, Brandon Ingram, Kelly Olynyk, Smart, IT or Jae, I'd turn it down.  He would immediately make us Eastern Conference contenders, but we'd still probably get beat down by the Cavs and there is basically no way we're beating the Warriors or Spurs.  We're the 3rd seed in the East right now without him, so adding him would be a huge boost.  But would it really be enough of a boost to make us ahead of the Cavs?

Carmelo Anthony....

1.) is 31 years old
2.) is not enough for a Knicks team with Porzingis, Afflalo, Lopez, Derrick Williams and Phil Jackson to make the 8th seed when they're all healthy
3.) has a no trade kicker in his contract that will increase his salary way past his production
4.) will not make us title contenders
5.) will cost a lot of assets
6.) is married to someone who wants him to live in NYC
7.) also wants to live in NYC
8.) is unable to attract other FAs to New York of all places, so it's very unlikely to think he will do it in Boston
9.) sells tickets for the Knicks while allowing them to tank and bank assets like Porzingis

So if it's Bradley, Lee, Rozier, Young, Celtics Pick 2016 and Celtics Pick 2018, then sure.  I don't think that's enough for the Knicks, though. 

Also, it would be kind of miserable to sign him and Horford, then still be a 3 seed in the East at the end of the day, but with $50 million going to 2 players with the new cap.

100% agree with all of this. Great post.

Melo for AB, Lee, and a non Brooklyn first is crazy. You make that trade all day though I doubt the Knicks do. They could probably get more for Melo than that, and as you said they'd want assets that we would be crazy to give up for him

[jpotter33]

Here's two trades that I'd offer up to New York:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=j8hatld

Boston In: Melo

New York In: Lee, JJ, Sullinger, Young, Brooklyn 2016 1st, Dallas 2016 1st, Boston 2018 1st

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hah7hop

Boston In: Melo, Lopez

New York In: Lee, Johnson, JJ, Sullinger, Young, Brooklyn 2016 1st, Dallas 2016 1st, Boston 2018 1st

Personally, I'd probably due either of these deals, because Lopez would be a nice, defensive big to have at a reasonable rate through his prime. However, I'd prefer the first deal, because then we could possibly still afford a Durant/Horford type this offseason to go along with it. So we'd have:

PG: IT, Smart
SG: Bradley, Hunter
SF: Crowder, Turner
PF: Melo, KO
C: Amir, Zeller

That addition right there actually cures probably 80% of our problems, because it gives us A) another go-to scorer, B) a closer, and C) even more spacing for IT to penetrate. We also don't lose much in rebounding and defense, too, because Melo has always been an above average rebounder.

Now, if we'd add Durant to that core, too? Wow. Here's what we'd have:

PG: IT, Smart
SG: Crowder, Bradley (I did this switch to counter Lebron and the other wings we'd face)
SF: Durant, FA (perhaps Turner at a decent price?)
PF: Melo, KO
C: Amir (unless he had to be dropped to get Durant), Zeller/Mickey

That's a ridiculous lineup right there, and if we could somehow pull off a trade for Melo, it's not all that far-fetched. Could someone check the money? I think we'd still be able to get Durant in this scenario, though I don't know what that means for Amir's non-guaranteed contract.

[Monkhouse]

Here's two trades that I'd offer up to New York:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=j8hatld

Boston In: Melo

New York In: Lee, JJ, Sullinger, Young, Brooklyn 2016 1st, Dallas 2016 1st, Boston 2018 1st

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hah7hop

Boston In: Melo, Lopez

New York In: Lee, Johnson, JJ, Sullinger, Young, Brooklyn 2016 1st, Dallas 2016 1st, Boston 2018 1st

Personally, I'd probably due either of these deals, because Lopez would be a nice, defensive big to have at a reasonable rate through his prime. However, I'd prefer the first deal, because then we could possibly still afford a Durant/Horford type this offseason to go along with it. So we'd have:

PG: IT, Smart
SG: Bradley, Hunter
SF: Crowder, Turner
PF: Melo, KO
C: Amir, Zeller

That addition right there actually cures probably 80% of our problems, because it gives us A) another go-to scorer, B) a closer, and C) even more spacing for IT to penetrate. We also don't lose much in rebounding and defense, too, because Melo has always been an above average rebounder.

Now, if we'd add Durant to that core, too? Wow. Here's what we'd have:

PG: IT, Smart
SG: Crowder, Bradley (I did this switch to counter Lebron and the other wings we'd face)
SF: Durant, FA (perhaps Turner at a decent price?)
PF: Melo, KO
C: Amir (unless he had to be dropped to get Durant), Zeller/Mickey

That's a ridiculous lineup right there, and if we could somehow pull off a trade for Melo, it's not all that far-fetched. Could someone check the money? I think we'd still be able to get Durant in this scenario, though I don't know what that means for Amir's non-guaranteed contract.

No offense, but 2016 Brooklyn pick for Melo? Really?

[rondohondo]

Danny already said today he is not giving up his best assets for a player in his 30's . He is not giving up any Brk picks , Smart or Crowder for a player near the end of his prime that won't put us over the top ( he was clearly hinting at Dwight , but Melo is in the same category).

If he can land one of  Melo,Horford or Howard for a package of

Sully, AB , Bos 2016 and Dallas 2016

He probably does it , but unless we can land a Durant , the brk picks , Smart and Crowder are off limits .

[jpotter33]

Here's two trades that I'd offer up to New York:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=j8hatld

Boston In: Melo

New York In: Lee, JJ, Sullinger, Young, Brooklyn 2016 1st, Dallas 2016 1st, Boston 2018 1st

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hah7hop

Boston In: Melo, Lopez

New York In: Lee, Johnson, JJ, Sullinger, Young, Brooklyn 2016 1st, Dallas 2016 1st, Boston 2018 1st

Personally, I'd probably due either of these deals, because Lopez would be a nice, defensive big to have at a reasonable rate through his prime. However, I'd prefer the first deal, because then we could possibly still afford a Durant/Horford type this offseason to go along with it. So we'd have:

PG: IT, Smart
SG: Bradley, Hunter
SF: Crowder, Turner
PF: Melo, KO
C: Amir, Zeller

That addition right there actually cures probably 80% of our problems, because it gives us A) another go-to scorer, B) a closer, and C) even more spacing for IT to penetrate. We also don't lose much in rebounding and defense, too, because Melo has always been an above average rebounder.

Now, if we'd add Durant to that core, too? Wow. Here's what we'd have:

PG: IT, Smart
SG: Crowder, Bradley (I did this switch to counter Lebron and the other wings we'd face)
SF: Durant, FA (perhaps Turner at a decent price?)
PF: Melo, KO
C: Amir (unless he had to be dropped to get Durant), Zeller/Mickey

That's a ridiculous lineup right there, and if we could somehow pull off a trade for Melo, it's not all that far-fetched. Could someone check the money? I think we'd still be able to get Durant in this scenario, though I don't know what that means for Amir's non-guaranteed contract.

No offense, but 2016 Brooklyn pick for Melo? Really?

If it could lead to Durant giving us a serious look in the offseason and potentially signing with us, yes, I give it without a doubt. Plus, none of these other trade scenarios are even realistic without Smart or the Brooklyn pick being included. I value Smart more than that pick right now, because I really don't think it's as valuable as it could be as a trade chip at the deadline if it's outside the top two picks.

EDIT: And, honestly, Melo is the exact type of player (role-wise) that we need, i.e. star, scorer, closer, etc. He would fix the vast majority of our offensive woes just like that.

[jpotter33]

Danny already said today he is not giving up his best assets for a player in his 30's . He is not giving up any Brk picks , Smart or Crowder for a player near the end of his prime that won't put us over the top ( he was clearly hinting at Dwight , but Melo is in the same category).

If he can land one of  Melo,Horford or Howard for a package of

Sully, AB , Bos 2016 and Dallas 2016

He probably does it , but unless we can land a Durant , the brk picks , Smart and Crowder are off limits .

I wouldn't trust Danny as far as I can throw him, which isn't far. 

[GryphMinuteMan]

Danny already said today he is not giving up his best assets for a player in his 30's . He is not giving up any Brk picks , Smart or Crowder for a player near the end of his prime that won't put us over the top ( he was clearly hinting at Dwight , but Melo is in the same category).

If he can land one of  Melo,Horford or Howard for a package of

Sully, AB , Bos 2016 and Dallas 2016

He probably does it , but unless we can land a Durant , the brk picks , Smart and Crowder are off limits .

Not like I think melo is being traded here, but I wouldn't trust anything ainge has to say to the media on trades right now.

[chilidawg]

Typical Melo game tonight, points, rebounds, assists, but 4-18 from the field.  If you're a "star" or shot creater, you actually need to be able to make shots to be effective.

I'd take Lopez though.

[Tr1boy]

Absolutely overrated. Abuses star status to take 20 shots a game(good or bad)

Makes how much?? If I were the fans I would be booing him on a nightly basis

The idiot in this is phil Jackson for signing him to a ridiculous deal.  Prob the only one mistake Phil Jackson has made in the NBA period


Luckily they drafted porzingis for the future