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We will win 50 games
« on: February 04, 2016, 01:17:05 AM »

Offline Celtic Fan Forever

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Call it overly optimistic, call it homerism, tell me to take off my green-tinted glasses.. I don't care! I love this team! I haven't been this excited about our team in a while, and I think we have a legit shot to make the conference finals this year and give Cleveland a good fight. Some things that have stood out:

Kelly's aggressiveness: gotta love what Kelly has been doing. He's not afraid to shoot anymore, he's running the floor and finishing well. And he looks competent defensively and on the boards.

Thomas' all star play: so happy for this guy, leading our offense and being a consistent go to guy night in and night out

Bradley's emergence: he's been slower lately, but Bradley had some crazy good stretches this year. He's shooting well and providing us with his trademark tough on ball defense

Crowder's two way excellence: is he living up to that contract or what? Scoring and shooting better than I could've imagined, and bringing it defensively every night

Smart's development: he's still got a long way to go, but I've loved watching him lately. His shot has been getting better and he's always in attack mode.

So back to my original point.. Here's why we'll win 50 games:

We've lost some tough games early on, and the only teams with point differentials better than ours are SA, CLE, OKC, GS, TOR. That's some pretty good company. No reason we shouldn't be the 3 seed in the East.

We're top 5 in assists, defense, and pace. We move the ball well, move it fast, and play good defense in the half court and transition. These are important traits that will be huge for us in the second half of the season.

So for those of you who think this all subjective and blah blah blah, I'll break it down even further. Right now we stand at 29-22. That's 51 games, with 31 left to go. To get 50 wins, we'd need to finish 21-10. To put this in perspective, we finished 20-11 in our last 31 games last year. This was before IT was fully accustomed to this team, and was coming off the bench. This was with a rookie Smart, a Bradley/Crowder combo not nearly what they are now, Evan Turner starting, and no Amir. There's no reason we can't perform one game better than we did last year.

For those still doubting, I'll break it down further:

Of the remaining 31 games, 14 are against teams above .500, with 7 of those 14 being on the road.

The ones that seem likely to be losses are:

@Cleveland
@Cleveland again
@Toronto
@Golden State
@Clippers

Then some close ones should be:

@Atlanta
Vs Miami
Vs Toronto
Vs OKC
@ Indiana
Vs Houston
Vs Memphis
Vs Miami again
Vs Clippers

All our other games (17) are against sub 500 teams. If we finish 14-3 in those games, and lose 4 of the 5 tough ones (I think we can beat the Clippers in LA, the Wolves just did..) we have to win 6 of the 9 games in the last category (7 are home).

This is doable guys!! It's not gonna be easy, but it's not gonna take a miracle to win 50 games and secure a 3 seed. It's gonna take this team playing to its full potential night in and night out, and staying focused on its goal.

Take this for what you will, but I strongly believe it is without a doubt a good possibility this team wins 50 games. Criticize my logic all you want, I don't care. I love this team and regardless of how this season ends up, I'll be extremely proud of our team.

LET'S GO CELTICS!

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Re: We will win 50 games
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2016, 01:20:04 AM »

Offline Chris22

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I picked us to win 50 games at the beginning of the season.
But we have to avoid injures to do that.
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Re: We will win 50 games
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2016, 01:25:26 AM »

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I like the positive thinking! 

This is why I'm a little reluctant to make a trade at this point because they are starting to come together as a TEAM.  The Celtics, much like our all star IT, are the little engine that could. 

Maybe it's my love for the movie "Hoosiers"...but I absolutely HATE the idea that you have to have "stars" to have success.  Bring everybody along for the ride, and you end up with a real team.

That's what the Celtics are becoming...and we're primed with our picks in the next 3 years to truly become something great!

Rak
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Re: We will win 50 games
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2016, 01:28:29 AM »

Offline Bucketgetter

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i think we will win 50 games, make it to the second round, and lose to either Toronto or Cleveland.
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Re: We will win 50 games
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2016, 01:28:46 AM »

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Very doable. I think I said 48 wins before the season, and I think we certainly are still capable of 48-50 wins the rest of the way, especially if we get an upgrade in a couple of weeks!
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Re: We will win 50 games
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2016, 01:30:09 AM »

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Quote from: Bucketgetter on February 04, 2016, 01:28:29 AM
i think we will win 50 games, make it to the second round, and lose to either Toronto or Cleveland.

I want a Chicago first round meeting with us having homecourt advantage. I think that'd be a killer series, almost like 2009 all over again. I like our matchups against Chicago, so I think we'd ultimately win in 6 or 7.
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Re: We will win 50 games
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2016, 01:36:38 AM »

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Go Celts! I'll go with DA until he isn't our GM, even if I don't agree with him. Well, until he screws up a lot. GMs aren't forever. 



Oops... wrong thread but w/e LOL. Don't need to delete it though. 
« Last Edit: February 04, 2016, 01:53:30 AM by ImShakHeIsShaq »
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Re: We will win 50 games
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2016, 01:42:56 AM »

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Quote from: Celtic Fan Forever on February 04, 2016, 01:17:05 AM
Call it overly optimistic, call it homerism, tell me to take off my green-tinted glasses.. I don't care! I love this team! I haven't been this excited about our team in a while, and I think we have a legit shot to make the conference finals this year and give Cleveland a good fight. Some things that have stood out:

Kelly's aggressiveness: gotta love what Kelly has been doing. He's not afraid to shoot anymore, he's running the floor and finishing well. And he looks competent defensively and on the boards.

Thomas' all star play: so happy for this guy, leading our offense and being a consistent go to guy night in and night out

Bradley's emergence: he's been slower lately, but Bradley had some crazy good stretches this year. He's shooting well and providing us with his trademark tough on ball defense

Crowder's two way excellence: is he living up to that contract or what? Scoring and shooting better than I could've imagined, and bringing it defensively every night

Smart's development: he's still got a long way to go, but I've loved watching him lately. His shot has been getting better and he's always in attack mode.

So back to my original point.. Here's why we'll win 50 games:

We've lost some tough games early on, and the only teams with point differentials better than ours are SA, CLE, OKC, GS, TOR. That's some pretty good company. No reason we shouldn't be the 3 seed in the East.

We're top 5 in assists, defense, and pace. We move the ball well, move it fast, and play good defense in the half court and transition. These are important traits that will be huge for us in the second half of the season.

So for those of you who think this all subjective and blah blah blah, I'll break it down even further. Right now we stand at 29-22. That's 51 games, with 31 left to go. To get 50 wins, we'd need to finish 21-10. To put this in perspective, we finished 20-11 in our last 31 games last year. This was before IT was fully accustomed to this team, and was coming off the bench. This was with a rookie Smart, a Bradley/Crowder combo not nearly what they are now, Evan Turner starting, and no Amir. There's no reason we can't perform one game better than we did last year.

For those still doubting, I'll break it down further:

Of the remaining 31 games, 14 are against teams above .500, with 7 of those 14 being on the road.

The ones that seem likely to be losses are:

@Cleveland
@Cleveland again
@Toronto
@Golden State
@Clippers

Then some close ones should be:

@Atlanta
Vs Miami
Vs Toronto
Vs OKC
@ Indiana
Vs Houston
Vs Memphis
Vs Miami again
Vs Clippers

All our other games (17) are against sub 500 teams. If we finish 14-3 in those games, and lose 4 of the 5 tough ones (I think we can beat the Clippers in LA, the Wolves just did..) we have to win 6 of the 9 games in the last category (7 are home).

This is doable guys!! It's not gonna be easy, but it's not gonna take a miracle to win 50 games and secure a 3 seed. It's gonna take this team playing to its full potential night in and night out, and staying focused on its goal.

Take this for what you will, but I strongly believe it is without a doubt a good possibility this team wins 50 games. Criticize my logic all you want, I don't care. I love this team and regardless of how this season ends up, I'll be extremely proud of our team.

LET'S GO CELTICS!

The last time I saw a post similar to this, the poster just marked every sub .500 team as a W.  We subsequently lost games to BKN & LAL, so I'll commend you for not assuming we will win every single on of those games.  I'll go with 47 wins. 
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Re: We will win 50 games
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2016, 05:10:51 AM »

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I really dont care much about whether we reach 50 or not but I really want us to give the Cavs or Toronto a good fight. I want ECF and no less simply bec once we are there anything can happen.. Injuries will be a big factor once again just look at the Cavs in the playoffs...we are the only team they faced head on without injuries to their main core hence we got spanked but out team is much improved now.

IT is brimming with confidence and MS is maturing by the week that hopefully come playoffs he will be a beast on both side of the floor.

For me the East right now is as wide open as you can get. Its like 1999 or 2002 all over again..heck im not even sure the Cavs is a sure bet finalist right now because if Lebrick slows down with abug or even a mild injury and their toasts...ofcourse same can besaid with us so its imperative our team reach the playoffs up to the ECF with no injuries whatso ever.
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Re: We will win 50 games
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2016, 05:26:40 AM »

Offline Greyman

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TP for the thought and analysis put into the prediction. You have me ready to go and check the odds and place a bet. I won't bet but at a time when I am feeling pretty good about the Celtics you have found another way to make people feel positive.

I am sure I said it was doable in an earlier thread, right now I am thinking 45 is the point where I would feel disappointed and the team underachieved in the second half of the season. Anything above that is pretty positive and 50 would be great.
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Re: We will win 50 games
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2016, 02:30:20 PM »

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Quote from: Rakulp on February 04, 2016, 01:25:26 AM


..and we're primed with our picks in the next 3 years to truly become something great!



And don't forget the Memphis 1st rd pick, which will probably convey in June 2019.  Memphis could be pretty bad in 3 years!
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Re: We will win 50 games
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2016, 02:43:11 PM »

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love the optimism but I think 45 would be fortunate.  it'll be better than the 40-41 wins I predicted preseason.
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Of the remaining 31 games, 14 are against teams above .500, with 7 of those 14 being on the road.

The ones that seem likely to be losses are:

@Cleveland
@Cleveland again
@Toronto
@Golden State
@Clippers

Then some close ones should be:

@Atlanta
Vs Miami
Vs Toronto
Vs OKC
@ Indiana
Vs Houston
Vs Memphis
Vs Miami again
Vs Clippers

All our other games (17) are against sub 500 teams. If we finish 14-3 in those games, and lose 4 of the 5 tough ones (I think we can beat the Clippers in LA, the Wolves just did..) we have to win 6 of the 9 games in the last category (7 are home).
for the teams above .500, I would chalk up 6 out of 7 as losses figuring the C's will surprise someone.  For the home games, I think they'll cough up at least one, probably 2.
we'll call that 7-7 split for the sake of argument.

For other 17 games, 8 are on the road.  a four and four split would be reasonable. 

that leaves 9 games at home.  unfortunately this team has shown it takes 'winnable' games for granted and loses to teams it should beat handily.  I'll be generous and go 7-2 in those games.

so, 7-7 in the 'playoff' teams.
4-4 on the road against weak teams
7-2 at home against weak team.

18 and 13 the rest of the way with generous considerations for wins.  puts them at 49-33 for the season.  I can could easily see them not performing up to expectations because they tend to go on losing streaks which the above results aren't accounting for nor are any potential injuries accounted for.

positive - C's look to be solidly in the playoff picture and should be better than the 7/8 seeds.  Question is, will teams with star players get it together in time for the stretch run to put the pressure on the C's for overall record.
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Re: We will win 50 games
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2016, 02:44:20 PM »

Offline libermaniac

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I'd say the odds are pretty good we'll win 50

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... if you count the playoffs. ;-)
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Re: We will win 50 games
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2016, 02:54:32 PM »

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21-10 to end the year seems like a little bit of a stretch but even I think we finish with closer to 46-48 wins which would still be great.
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Re: We will win 50 games
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2016, 02:55:08 PM »

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538 has us winning 48 games this season, not too shabby.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-nba-picks/
also have quite a great chance to win the championship this season.
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