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Predict record for remainder of season
« on: January 31, 2016, 02:17:36 PM »

Offline mgent

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I think we have a good shot of going 23-11 for 50 wins.

We have 9 games against tough teams:  MEM, OKC, GS, CLE twice, LAC twice, TOR twice

Say 4-5.

6 games against playoff teams we're better than:  HOU, IND, ATL, DET, MIA twice

Say 4-2 (MIA will be an automatic win if they rest their older guys like Wade/Bosh/Deng in last game of season).

9 games against absolutely horrible teams:  PHI, PHO, LA, NO, DEN, MIN, MIL 3 times

Should go about 8-1?

The other 10 games are against more teams under .500 (CHA, SAC, POR 2x, UTA 2x, NY 2x, ORL 2x).

If we did 7-3 that'd be 50 wins.

Second half of the season is where teams start getting tired and our extra depth pays off.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2016, 02:26:25 PM by mgent »
Philly:

Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

Re: Predict record for remainder of season
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2016, 02:33:14 PM »

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I agree. Lately I have been thinking why not hold ground and stick with the approximately 50 win prediction? I forget when, but at one point last year we were 14 games under .500. A lot of people dismiss the 24-12 ending, and it was probably a bit inflated.

I think we could possibly win 55 games, but that would take an Atlanta Hawks kind of run from last year.

The C's look good in a lot of stats. The plus-minus differential. Defense. Even on offense, we have become a menace.

And Brad seems to have finally finished this year's experimenting phase. A little pruning by Danny this month could line us up with all the power rankings that have promoted us as an up and coming team, not just future potential.

Re: Predict record for remainder of season
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2016, 02:36:37 PM »

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I agree. Lately I have been thinking why not hold ground and stick with the approximately 50 win prediction? I forget when, but at one point last year we were 14 games under .500. A lot of people dismiss the 24-12 ending, and it was probably a bit inflated.

I think we could possibly win 55 games, but that would take an Atlanta Hawks kind of run from last year.

The C's look good in a lot of stats. The plus-minus differential. Defense. Even on offense, we have become a menace.

And Brad seems to have finally finished this year's experimenting phase. A little pruning by Danny this month could line us up with all the power rankings that have promoted us as an up and coming team, not just future potential.

This is typically the biggest predictor from my experience.

We've been second in the East pretty much all season, until TOR went on this 11 win streak.
Philly:

Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

Re: Predict record for remainder of season
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2016, 02:39:08 PM »

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I'm less optimistic, that's a tough schedule. I'd be ok winning 20 games, but my prediction is 19-15, that would make it 46-36 for the year wich is fine.

Re: Predict record for remainder of season
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2016, 02:42:40 PM »

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i think 45-50 wins should be a good range

Re: Predict record for remainder of season
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2016, 02:49:34 PM »

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I'm less optimistic, that's a tough schedule. I'd be ok winning 20 games, but my prediction is 19-15, that would make it 46-36 for the year wich is fine.

I really don't think it's that tough.

14 games against teams over .500 and 20 games against teams .500 and under.

Shouldn't be that tough to go 7-7 against teams over .500 and 16-4 against teams under .500.
Philly:

Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

Re: Predict record for remainder of season
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2016, 02:54:48 PM »

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On the plus-minus stat: I find it intriguing. I think people who write it off in regards to individual players are mistaken. The only way it can be off in regards to teams is if it's broken down into quality of opponent columns.

Olynyk, Sully, and Smart always seem to have a good plus-minus no matter their outward stats.

David Lee had the worst plus-minus stats of anyone no matter what the combination of players.

Olynyk. Yes, he might have had a bit of an inflated value based on the +-.

But come on. After a while, it can't be a coincidence.

45 wins is the safe bet. 50 is the next level. We become a Toronto, Washington (last year), or Chicago. There seems to be a 95% chance of Cleveland making it to the Finals. But the games still need to be played and we could be a player this year.

This is not a knee-jerk reaction to the recent winning streak. Basketball is like this. There are swings within games and batches of games.

More than a few times the Celtics have rattled the opponent to its core. That Houston game. What we have done to the Wizards.

We have to go 23-11 for 50 wins?

That doesn't seem too much of a reach, some range of 45-55 wins.

Can we go 28-6?

I admit that might take an extra glass or two of green kool-aid. It could happen if we are truly in the second tier behind Golden State and San Antonio.

Re: Predict record for remainder of season
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2016, 03:11:59 PM »

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I think we have a good shot of going 23-11 for 50 wins.

We have 9 games against tough teams:  MEM, OKC, GS, CLE twice, LAC twice, TOR twice

Say 4-5.

6 games against playoff teams we're better than:  HOU, IND, ATL, DET, MIA twice

Say 4-2 (MIA will be an automatic win if they rest their older guys like Wade/Bosh/Deng in last game of season).

9 games against absolutely horrible teams:  PHI, PHO, LA, NO, DEN, MIN, MIL 3 times

Should go about 8-1?

The other 10 games are against more teams under .500 (CHA, SAC, POR 2x, UTA 2x, NY 2x, ORL 2x).

If we did 7-3 that'd be 50 wins.

Second half of the season is where teams start getting tired and our extra depth pays off.
I'm going to be pessimistic because the last time I was optimistic in a thread like this, the team had it's worst stretch of the season.
Games against tough teams: 3-6
Games against playoff teams: 3-3
Games against horrible teams: 7-2
Games against teams under .500: 7-3
that is 20-14 for the rest of the season and 47 wins. Which I would be very happy with since it probably means a seed somewhere in the 3 to 6 range.
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Re: Predict record for remainder of season
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2016, 03:12:23 PM »

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I'm less optimistic, that's a tough schedule. I'd be ok winning 20 games, but my prediction is 19-15, that would make it 46-36 for the year wich is fine.

I really don't think it's that tough.

14 games against teams over .500 and 20 games against teams .500 and under.

Shouldn't be that tough to go 7-7 against teams over .500 and 16-4 against teams under .500.

But we play on the road twice against Cleveland and once vs Clippers and GS. I don't know how can you expect winning any of those. Same for games in Toronto, Indiana, Atlanta. We haven't donde great in those places.
Winning against Clippers, OKC and Memphis at home will be tough enough.

Also games in Utah and Portland are no cake walks, same for two games against Miami.

I think it should be between 45-48 wins.


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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2016, 03:15:53 PM »

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I think we have a good shot of going 23-11 for 50 wins.

We have 9 games against tough teams:  MEM, OKC, GS, CLE twice, LAC twice, TOR twice

Say 4-5.

6 games against playoff teams we're better than:  HOU, IND, ATL, DET, MIA twice

Say 4-2 (MIA will be an automatic win if they rest their older guys like Wade/Bosh/Deng in last game of season).

9 games against absolutely horrible teams:  PHI, PHO, LA, NO, DEN, MIN, MIL 3 times

Should go about 8-1?

The other 10 games are against more teams under .500 (CHA, SAC, POR 2x, UTA 2x, NY 2x, ORL 2x).

If we did 7-3 that'd be 50 wins.

Second half of the season is where teams start getting tired and our extra depth pays off.
I'm going to be pessimistic because the last time I was optimistic in a thread like this, the team had it's worst stretch of the season.
Games against tough teams: 3-6
Games against playoff teams: 3-3
Games against horrible teams: 7-2
Games against teams under .500: 7-3
that is 20-14 for the rest of the season and 47 wins. Which I would be very happy with since it probably means a seed somewhere in the 3 to 6 range.

If your pessimistic view leaves us with 47 wins, then I'm extremely pleased with that.
Philly:

Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

Re: Predict record for remainder of season
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2016, 03:33:54 PM »

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I think we have a good shot of going 23-11 for 50 wins.

We have 9 games against tough teams:  MEM, OKC, GS, CLE twice, LAC twice, TOR twice

Say 4-5.

6 games against playoff teams we're better than:  HOU, IND, ATL, DET, MIA twice

Say 4-2 (MIA will be an automatic win if they rest their older guys like Wade/Bosh/Deng in last game of season).

9 games against absolutely horrible teams:  PHI, PHO, LA, NO, DEN, MIN, MIL 3 times

Should go about 8-1?

The other 10 games are against more teams under .500 (CHA, SAC, POR 2x, UTA 2x, NY 2x, ORL 2x).

If we did 7-3 that'd be 50 wins.

Second half of the season is where teams start getting tired and our extra depth pays off.
I'm going to be pessimistic because the last time I was optimistic in a thread like this, the team had it's worst stretch of the season.
Games against tough teams: 3-6
Games against playoff teams: 3-3
Games against horrible teams: 7-2
Games against teams under .500: 7-3
that is 20-14 for the rest of the season and 47 wins. Which I would be very happy with since it probably means a seed somewhere in the 3 to 6 range.

If your pessimistic view leaves us with 47 wins, then I'm extremely pleased with that.
i'd even be happy with 46 which is what I predicted pre season.
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Re: Predict record for remainder of season
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2016, 03:50:23 PM »

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What if this win streak doesn't end?

Re: Predict record for remainder of season
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2016, 03:56:13 PM »

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I'm less optimistic, that's a tough schedule. I'd be ok winning 20 games, but my prediction is 19-15, that would make it 46-36 for the year wich is fine.

I really don't think it's that tough.

14 games against teams over .500 and 20 games against teams .500 and under.

Shouldn't be that tough to go 7-7 against teams over .500 and 16-4 against teams under .500.

But we play on the road twice against Cleveland and once vs Clippers and GS. I don't know how can you expect winning any of those. Same for games in Toronto, Indiana, Atlanta. We haven't donde great in those places.
Winning against Clippers, OKC and Memphis at home will be tough enough.

Also games in Utah and Portland are no cake walks, same for two games against Miami.

I think it should be between 45-48 wins.

Yes, I expect us to steal games.  We're an excellent road team.  Heck, we score more points on the road than at home.  These are teams with vets who are getting ready to coast and head into the playoffs healthy/rested.  Meanwhile, the teams not making the playoffs have nothing to play for, or are tanking.

SAC we destroyed by 17.  PHO we destroyed by 14.  NO we destroyed by 18  MIN we destroyed by 14.  MIL we destroyed by 16.  HOU we destroyed by 16.  DEN we beat by 8.  Philly we've already beaten 3 times by an AVERAGE of 14.  CHA we're already 2-0 against.  Lakers got EXTREMELY lucky.

I can't wait to play those teams again.  There's no reason we can't go 12-0 in those games and then we just need 11-11 for the rest.

We beat MIA and OKC easily (by 10 and 15 respectively) and don't forget MIA's probably won't play Wade/Deng/Bosh that last game.

The losses to MEM and GS were close and came down to the end.

And between MIL and ORL, that's 5 games that pose no real threat, 6 games if you count Utah coming to BOS.

I'm not "expecting" to win or lose any specific games.  I'm just giving a range of wins I think we can pull off if we keep playing the way we have been (and winning 2/3 of our games sounds about right).
« Last Edit: January 31, 2016, 04:04:00 PM by mgent »
Philly:

Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

Re: Predict record for remainder of season
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2016, 04:04:04 PM »

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I'm less optimistic, that's a tough schedule. I'd be ok winning 20 games, but my prediction is 19-15, that would make it 46-36 for the year wich is fine.

I really don't think it's that tough.

14 games against teams over .500 and 20 games against teams .500 and under.

Shouldn't be that tough to go 7-7 against teams over .500 and 16-4 against teams under .500.

But we play on the road twice against Cleveland and once vs Clippers and GS. I don't know how can you expect winning any of those. Same for games in Toronto, Indiana, Atlanta. We haven't donde great in those places.
Winning against Clippers, OKC and Memphis at home will be tough enough.

Also games in Utah and Portland are no cake walks, same for two games against Miami.

I think it should be between 45-48 wins.

Yes, I expect us to steal games.  We're an excellent road team.  Heck, we score more points on the road than at home.  These are teams with vets who are getting ready to coast and head into the playoffs healthy/rested.  Meanwhile, the teams not making the playoffs have nothing to play for, or are tanking.

SAC we destroyed by 17.  PHO we destroyed by 14.  NO we destroyed by 18  MIN we destroyed by 14.  MIL we destroyed by 16.  HOU we destroyed by 16.  DEN we beat by 8.  Philly we've already beaten 3 times by an AVERAGE of 14.  CHA we're already 2-0 against.  Lakers got EXTREMELY lucky.

I can't wait to play those teams again.  There's no reason we can't go 12-0 in those games and then we just need 11-11 for the rest.

We beat MIA and OKC easily (by 10 and 15 respectively) and don't forget MIA's probably won't play Wade/Deng/Bosh that last game.

The losses to MEM and GS were close and came down to the end.

And between MIL and ORL, that's 5 games that pose no real threat, nor should Utah in the Garden.

I'm not "expecting" to win or lose any specific games.  I'm just giving a range of wins I think we can pull off if we keep playing the way we have been (and winning 2/3 of our games sounds about right).

TP for the optimistic view. I disagree but I'd be thrilled with more than 47 wins.

Re: Predict record for remainder of season
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2016, 04:06:38 PM »

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Back-atcha.
Philly:

Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale