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Re: Can We Kill This Narrative ...
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2016, 07:32:10 PM »

Offline DefenseWinsChamps

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Isaiah's problem is his crazy turnovers. He needs to tighten his game. He needs to keep improving on defense. He could be the answer.

Crowder and Bradley could also be all-stars.

Too bad we got Amir a few years late. He is the truth but working through foot problems.

Olynyk has all-star potential.

If Sully the non-all star talent is moved, we will finally get the great starting five of Isaiah, Bradley, Crowder, Olynyk, and Johnson.

I would also move Turner for a serviceable pg and switch Smart with Bradley or Thomas. Perhaps do this depending on match-ups.

We were very good with Rondo and Bradley, so if Smart can handle pg, Smart and Bradley is going to work out well.

Prune off Sully and Turner and you have a lot of all-star potential you can roll the dice with and maybe get to the NBA Finals.

The team would be running non-stop if we could get rid of the deadwood.

Anyway, my main point I want to declare is you don't need Hollywood styled NBA talent. It tends to be very overrated, e.g. Kevin Love or Carmelo Anthony.

We could have five all-stars with none transcendent and still win the title. In fact, that might be the way the NBA ultimately heads if the NBA corruption is cleaned up.

I always hate turnovers, but I'm not sure i agree that is a major problem with Thomas.

His turnover rate is on par with Chris Paul, and better than Jackson, Holliday, Curry, Lillard, Rose, Lowry, Rubio, Westbrook, Schoeder, Payton, Knight, Teague, Bledsoe, Dragic, Wall, and rondo.

Re: Can We Kill This Narrative ...
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2016, 08:40:07 PM »

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I agree with the OP. .......IT is a star....He's the straw that stirs the drink. He's a charismatic kid who performs. His D suffers only for his size, but KLove's D sucks, and he's a "star" I guess.

Plus IT is Money's buddy, so he has a friend celeb (although that didn't make Humphries or Odom stars), so that adds to his star status.

Compare these career stats:

Mystery PG             IT
13 years.........4 1/2 years
33 mpg......29mpg
18ppg.........16.5 ppg
.375 2pt fg%.....   .484
0.......3pt fg%.........36
.80.....FT%....   .86
5 rpg.......2.5 rpg
7.5 apg....5 apg
13 All-Star..1 All-Star appearances

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=cousybo01&p2=thomais02&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=


By now you know that the mystery player is the Houdini, and I know that you can't compare completely different generations, and I also know that stats are relative to the era in which you play, and I know that Cous had consistent product/longevity, but, I think that we have a star here in IT.

Re: Can We Kill This Narrative ...
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2016, 09:05:21 PM »

Offline TheFlex

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Isaiah Thomas will be a perfect second banana to the star we get with the Nets pick. Or perhaps, a co-first banana.


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Cap space: $24 mil.

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Re: Can We Kill This Narrative ...
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2016, 11:24:46 PM »

Offline CelticSince83

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This is Boston.

When we say "star" we mean Bird, Russell, Brady, Gronk, Orr, Pierce.

We don't mean Toine or David Lee.

So I don't think we can kill this narrative. Maybe give it a rest, but not kill it.

Let's say the Celtics maintain this level of play over the next few years, and Thomas continues to stay healthy and play at a high level, I think he will be an All-star each year.

At what point does a multiple-time all-star become a "Celtic Star" type player?

That's actually a question. What do you think?

When he becomes a player you can build a title team around, which won't ever happen.  I haven't seen anyone disparage IT to a point where it is blatantly disrespectful of his game, but most of the chatter on here is how we can build a championship team, and we certainly don't have that player yet.